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The End is near...or is it?

BIG D

Member
James [4vs1-4] explains why there has always been war in human nature.

Just because we have not seen divine intervention into mankind's affairs, does that mean there will not be?

If God does not involve himself, then mankind will ruin himself off the face of the earth. Sure there have always been wars, but now man has the capability to use war to the extent to ruin mankind and earth several times over. Can you be confident that man will not use his domination of man for such evil ends? Is the world safer today then in the past?

What about the cost $ of war today? How much longer can man successfully keep up with the cost of wars?
I don't see a change in the world or humans...why would you think there will be an end??so what if there is a WWIII that kills millions...what does that prove??there is a god and an end time?? there hasn't been an end yet...how long do we have to wait for nothing to happen before people stop saying there will be an ''end time''??
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I don't see a change in the world or humans...why would you think there will be an end??so what if there is a WWIII that kills millions...what does that prove??there is a god and an end time?? there hasn't been an end yet...how long do we have to wait for nothing to happen before people stop saying there will be an ''end time''??

Nothing to happen? Don't you see a hauntingly dangerous religious climate brewing in today's world?

Just how much longer do you think the political world will continue to put up with it interfering with peace before taking action?

With backing the United Nations can be strengthened to be God's tool to use the world's political rulers [kings Rev 17v2] to turn on the world's religious sector [queen Rev 18vs7,8] because the world's religions have run afoul proving herself false to God and his Word.
 

BIG D

Member
Nothing to happen? Don't you see a hauntingly dangerous religious climate brewing in today's world?

Just how much longer do you think the political world will continue to put up with it interfering with peace before taking action?

With backing the United Nations can be strengthened to be God's tool to use the world's political rulers [kings Rev 17v2] to turn on the world's religious sector [queen Rev 18vs7,8] because the world's religions have run afoul proving herself false to God and his Word.
don't you think WWII was the ultimate 'end'??whole cities burning, neighbor killing neighbor, the world at war, rape/murder/etc??..this 'religious climate' is no different than at any other time....the Middle Ages probably were worse for religious hate...Crusades, Inquisitions,etc...the world is no different..
 

JustAsking

Educational Use Only
don't you think WWII was the ultimate 'end'??whole cities burning, neighbor killing neighbor, the world at war, rape/murder/etc??..this 'religious climate' is no different than at any other time....the Middle Ages probably were worse for religious hate...Crusades, Inquisitions,etc...the world is no different..

Entirely agree. I'd suggest that the world is much more stable now than it was in times past. If you don't see that, I'm guessing your glasses are a little more rosy than others.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
Nothing to happen? Don't you see a hauntingly dangerous religious climate brewing in today's world?

Just how much longer do you think the political world will continue to put up with it interfering with peace before taking action?

With backing the United Nations can be strengthened to be God's tool to use the world's political rulers [kings Rev 17v2] to turn on the world's religious sector [queen Rev 18vs7,8] because the world's religions have run afoul proving herself false to God and his Word.

if you were alive or had any idea what was happening then (WWII) at the time it was happening you wouldn't be saying what you are saying now.
there is nothing special about today... nothing is new under the sun, remember?
 

james2ko

Well-Known Member
I don't see a change in the world or humans...why would you think there will be an end??so what if there is a WWIII that kills millions...what does that prove??there is a god and an end time?? there hasn't been an end yet...how long do we have to wait for nothing to happen before people stop saying there will be an ''end time''??

(Whispering) Psst...Big D...some dude named Pete wrote about you long ago :D

2 Peter 3:3-4 Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires. 4 They will say, "What happened to the promise that Jesus is coming again? From before the times of our ancestors, everything has remained the same since the world was first created."
 
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Walkntune

Well-Known Member
I don't see a change in the world or humans...why would you think there will be an end??so what if there is a WWIII that kills millions...what does that prove??there is a god and an end time?? there hasn't been an end yet...how long do we have to wait for nothing to happen before people stop saying there will be an ''end time''??
All the way to the end.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
don't you think WWII was the ultimate 'end'??whole cities burning, neighbor killing neighbor, the world at war, rape/murder/etc??..this 'religious climate' is no different than at any other time....the Middle Ages probably were worse for religious hate...Crusades, Inquisitions,etc...the world is no different..

The whole world was involved with the world wars, but the world's religious sector is still with us. Satan brings 'woe' to earth Rev 12vs9,12
Jesus called that period [Matt 24vs6-8] as a beginning of pangs of sorrow.
WWII was not the great tribulation of Matthew 24v21.

First, the world's religious sector that plays false to God and his Word will come to an end. That has not happened yet. The political [Rev 17v2;17] will turn on the religious [Rev 18vs7,8] before Jesus ushers in Peace on Earth toward men of goodwill.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Entirely agree. I'd suggest that the world is much more stable now than it was in times past. If you don't see that, I'm guessing your glasses are a little more rosy than others.

How rosy are the glasses for the world that has set the doom-and-gloom Doom's Day Clock with its hands set close to striking the dark midnight hour ?
 

PolyHedral

Superabacus Mystic
How rosy are the glasses for the world that has set the doom-and-gloom Doom's Day Clock with its hands set close to striking the dark midnight hour ?
Nuclear war never happened, despite many, many opportunities. Nobody was stupid enough to destroy everything they cared for.
 

BIG D

Member
The whole world was involved with the world wars, but the world's religious sector is still with us. Satan brings 'woe' to earth Rev 12vs9,12
Jesus called that period [Matt 24vs6-8] as a beginning of pangs of sorrow.
WWII was not the great tribulation of Matthew 24v21.

First, the world's religious sector that plays false to God and his Word will come to an end. That has not happened yet. The political [Rev 17v2;17] will turn on the religious [Rev 18vs7,8] before Jesus ushers in Peace on Earth toward men of goodwill.
religious sector with us??..I'm not that smart, can you explain please??tango yankee
 

james2ko

Well-Known Member
Nobody was stupid enough to destroy everything they cared for.

But we're going to get closer than ever before. To the point where God will have to directly intervene.

Matthew 24:22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.
 

PolyHedral

Superabacus Mystic
No, we're not. The Cold War ended. The USSR dissolved peacefully. We are a million miles away from the risk involved in the 1980s.

There are no more prospects of nuclear war.
 

james2ko

Well-Known Member
No, we're not. The Cold War ended. The USSR dissolved peacefully. We are a million miles away from the risk involved in the 1980s.

There are no more prospects of nuclear war.

Congratulations my friend. You've just fulfilled prophecy :)

2 Peter 3:3-4 "Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires. 4 They will say, “What happened to the promise that Jesus is coming again? From before the times of our ancestors, everything has remained the same since the world was first created.”
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
It is silly to presume what those in power can do over night. Nuclear war is no farther away than it was in the 80's.
Now I don't think the world will end that way, I just think it is naive to suggest we are so far away from using nukes. Hopefully I am wrong here.
The difference is to me those that have nukes learned important lesson in the cold war, about detection and so forth. I doubt anyone will be as blatant as to move a nuke to the island of Cuba.
Furthermore, the advances in technology make nukes much smaller, and in some cases obsolete because we have learned other deadly ways to wipe out populations. Ya know?
 

james2ko

Well-Known Member
It is silly to presume what those in power can do over night. Nuclear war is no farther away than it was in the 80's.
Now I don't think the world will end that way, I just think it is naive to suggest we are so far away from using nukes. Hopefully I am wrong here.
The difference is to me those that have nukes learned important lesson in the cold war, about detection and so forth. I doubt anyone will be as blatant as to move a nuke to the island of Cuba.
Furthermore, the advances in technology make nukes much smaller, and in some cases obsolete because we have learned other deadly ways to wipe out populations. Ya know?

You're right. There is no direct indication in scripture that the world will end this way. But we certainly cannot dimish its possible role in the soon coming prophesied WW3. Besides the Bible hints ,in the book of Isaiah, of a time where there would only be 10% of the population left on the earth after all of the end time events of Revelation come to pass. If this age ended tomorrow, that would leave approximately 6.3 billion human beings dead! It's not to far a stretch to think nuclear devices could play a role in arriving at such a large number of casualties.
 

PolyHedral

Superabacus Mystic
In the event of a nuclear war, everyone dies. No saving throw, do not pass go, do not collect $200. This is the main reason that it is impossible, since everyone in a position to cause one knows that they would be killed.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
You're right. There is no direct indication in scripture that the world will end this way. But we certainly cannot dimish its possible role in the soon coming prophesied WW3. Besides the Bible hints ,in the book of Isaiah, of a time where there would only be 10% of the population left on the earth after all of the end time events of Revelation come to pass. If this age ended tomorrow, that would leave approximately 6.3 billion human beings dead! It's not to far a stretch to think nuclear devices could play a role in arriving at such a large number of casualties.

Assuming the most probable way billions will die is even a bit morbid for me. Those that know me on here will vouche that is a lot for me to say.
I actually believe the world will end very soon, but could care less about what method it is done by. You're simply stretching the bible into something it is not, which again many say about me and my beliefs, but so be it.
 
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