The End Time Prophecy in Revelation 16:12 has been Fulfilled

[Tazarah]

Yes -it does. They are not in captivity YET. Generally... The house of Israel now inhabit their birthrights. Judah now inhabits Jerusalem.

The house of Judah and the the house of Israel are NOW NOT IN CAPTIVITY. They go into captivity at the beginning of the "times of the gentiles" -which begin quite soon and do not last very long.

Judah is already in the holy land -some of them go into captivity soon -and will return.
The house of Israel is not now in the holy land.
Some of them go into captivity from their present locations -to another location not in the holy land -and return to the holy land just AFTER Christ returns -AFTER God saves JUDAH FIRST.

The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.

Um, sorry but that's not what the bible says. According to bible prophecy, they are in captivity, have been in captivity, and will remain in captivity until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled.

LUKE 21:24

"24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled."

 

[blü 2]

You're the one making the claim that the Euphrates has dried up before so it's up to you to prove it. I have proven all of the things that I've claimed.

It's not my argument and I don't have to establish anything about the Euphrates.

I simply point out that you can't claim that the drying of the Euphrates in 2020 fits your prophetic claim IF it's also happened in the past. Your claim requires the drying to be unique and you've outright failed to show that.

If you can now show that, then we can move to other problems with your argument.

Meanwhile, you haven't made an argument at all.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Um, is this a joke? What bible are you reading?

No joke. It happened in 1918. All done and dusted. Australia won.
Battle of Megiddo (1918) - Wikipedia

 

[Tazarah]

It's not my argument and I don't have to establish anything about the Euphrates.

I simply point out that you can't claim that the drying of the Euphrates in 2020 fits your prophetic claim IF it's also happened in the past. Your claim requires the drying to be unique and you've outright failed to show that.

If you can now show that, then we can move to other problems with your argument.

Meanwhile, you haven't made an argument at all.

It is your argument. You're claiming that my argument isn't valid because you think the Euphrates has dried up before -- but you can't prove it.

PS, let me repost this for you:

the prophecy says that the Euphrates will run dry and then begin to become occupied by forces from the east for military purposes. Have both happened before? You can't just isolate one part of the prophecy. If you're going to go by that logic then you need to prove that both parts of the prophecy have simultaneously happened before as the prophecy states.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

It is your argument. You're claiming that my argument isn't valid because you think the Euphrates has dried up before -- but you can't prove it.

PS, let me repost this for you:

Doesn't matter. The battle's been over for a hundred years


But FYI,
Iraq Suffers as the Euphrates River Dwindles here's the Euphrates dried up in '09

also in the 1970s What Does the Future of the Euphrates Spell for the Middle East? | History | Smithsonian Magazine

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

It is your argument. You're claiming that my argument isn't valid because you think the Euphrates has dried up before -- but you can't prove it.

PS, let me repost this for you:

Use all the stupid laugh reacts you like, The history is right there for you to see. The Battle of Megiddo happened in 1918, and the Euphrates has dried up before.

 

[Tazarah]

Use all the stupid laugh reacts you like, The history is right there for you to see. The Battle of Megiddo happened in 1918, and the Euphrates has dried up before.

When else has the Euphrates river dried up, with eastern military forces using it as a location for military purposes?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

When else has the Euphrates river dried up, with eastern military forces using it as a location for military purposes?

Nah, I'm not playing silly goal post shifting games with you. I posted a link about the battle, and two about the Euphrates being dried out at different times. If you refuse to read them rather than acknowledge simple facts, that's on you.

Once you've acknowledged my links and read them, we can continue the discussion.

 

[Tazarah]

Nah, I'm not playing silly goal post shifting games with you. I posted a link about the battle, and two about the Euphrates being dried out at different times. If you refuse to read them rather than acknowledge simple facts, that's on you.

Once you've acknowledged my links and read them, we can continue the discussion.

1. This "battle of meggido" that you keep talking about is not mentioned anywhere in the bible. Revelation 16:12 says that the Euphrates will dry up and that eastern forces will begin to use it for military purposes. None of that happened at your "battle of meggido".

2. I have already posted both of the links that you posted -- one is in the OP and the second one I posted in post #28 of this thread. One was from 2009 and the other from 2017 -- not 1970. All they are saying is that the Euphrates river keeps getting dryer as time goes on.

 

[blü 2]

It is your argument. You're claiming that my argument isn't valid because you think the Euphrates has dried up before -- but you can't prove it.

PS, let me repost this for you:

It's not my argument, it's yours.

And it doesn't work if such things have happened before in any form.

So it's up to you to support your argument with sufficient evidence. If you can't do that, your only honest option is to acknowledge that your evidence is insufficient for your conclusion.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

1. This "battle of meggido" that you keep talking about is not mentioned anywhere in the bible. Revelation 16:12 says that the Euphrates will dry up and that eastern forces will begin to use it for military purposes. None of that happened at your "battle of meggido".

2. I have already posted both of the links that you posted -- one is in the OP and the second one I posted in post #28 of this thread. One was from 2009 and the other from 2017 -- not 1970. All they are saying is that the Euphrates river keeps getting dryer as time goes on.

Of course it's mentioned in the Bible. It's the Battle at Megiddo. It happened in 1918. Australia won.

 

[Faithofchristian]

One of the End Time prophecies in the book of Revelation states that in the last days the Euphrates river would dry up and eastern military forces would begin to use the river as a pathway/location for military related operations.

REVELATION 16:12

"12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared."

The Euphrates river has dried up and is now being occupied by eastern military forces just as the prophecy in Revelation 16:12 predicted over 2,000 years ago.

"Iraq suffers as the euphrates river dwindles"

Iraq Suffers as the Euphrates River Dwindles

"Catastrophic drought threatens Iraq as major dams in surrounding countries cut off water to its great rivers"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iraq-water-rivers-shortage-drought-baghdad-war-isis-a8426766.html?amp

"US Coalition claims Syrian military is building up its forces in Euphrates River Valley"

https://mobile.almasdarnews.com/art...ding-up-its-forces-in-euphrates-river-valley/

"Turkey hones in on military operation east of Euphrates river"

Turkey hones in on military operation east of Euphrates river | Ahval

"Syria: Russia deploys in bases east of Euphrates river"

Syria: Russia deploys in bases east of Euphrates River

"East of Euphrates Overcrowded with Foreign Military Bases"

East of Euphrates Overcrowded with Foreign Military Bases

"Russia-U.S. Tension in Eastern Euphrates: Causes and Trajectories"

Russia-U.S. Tension in Eastern Euphrates: Causes and Trajectories

The Euphrates river does not actually dry up.
The Euphrates river is symbolic.
Where on one side of the Euphrates river .
You have Jerusalem and over on the other side of the Euphrates river there's Babylon.

Jerusalem representing good.
Babylon representing evil.

The kings of the east represents Satan's fallen angles.
That are cast out of heaven with Satan at the sounding of the 6th trumpet.
Revelation 12:7-9.

At this time Satan goes about masquerading by deception to deceive the whole world into believing that he is the real Jesus Christ.

And as Satan performs many miracles before people..that Satan makes fire come down from heaven to the earth in the sight of people..that people wonder after him and his angels.
Believing that Satan is actually Jesus Christ.
Then people start to realize that Satan is an imposter and at this time the lies of Satan's start to dry.
This is what is meant by the Euphrates river drying up. Which is symbolic of the lies perpetrated by Satan start to dry up.

Because of God's elect people prophesying against exposing Satan and his angels of who they really are.
Then people start to see Through the lies.
Which causes Euphrates river to dry up
Which is symbolic for the lies of Satan's to dry up..
people see thru the lies of Satan's and his angels masquerading by deception that deceived them into believing that Satan was the real Jesus Christ.

the lies of Satan's drying up.
Which is symbolic of the Euphrates river drying up.

 

[Tazarah]

It's not my argument, it's yours.

And it doesn't work if such things have happened before in any form.

So it's up to you to support your argument with sufficient evidence. If you can't do that, your only honest option is to acknowledge that your evidence is insufficient for your conclusion.

Let me know when you find evidence proving that the Euphrates has dried up before, since that's the only thing that your argument rests upon. It's not my job to validate your arguments for you.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Let me know when you find evidence proving that the Euphrates has dried up before, since that's the only thing that your argument rests upon. It's not my job to validate your arguments for you.

Evidence has been presented of it dryiong up at least twice before, and also of the Battle of Megiddo happening in 1918. Use as many stupid laughing smileys as you like, you can't change facts.

 

[blü 2]

Let me know when you find evidence proving that the Euphrates has dried up before, since that's the only thing that your argument rests upon. It's not my job to validate your arguments for you.

Your argument has a great big hole in the middle.

Fix it.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Your argument has a great big hole in the middle.

Fix it.

2 big holes. 1. The river has dried out before, 2. the battle already happened.

 

[blü 2]

2 big holes. 1. The river has dried out before, 2. the battle already happened.

Thank you. Noted.

Gosh, where can you get a value-for-money prophecy these days?

 

[Etritonakin]

Um, sorry but that's not what the bible says. According to bible prophecy, they are in captivity, have been in captivity, and will remain in captivity until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled.

LUKE 21:24

"24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled."

The above is true -it WILL happen.
Where are they in captivity -true captivity -now?
Anyway -this is specifically talking about something yet future -but not long off.
Perhaps you do not realize just how trodden down Jerusalem will be.
Nearly all of the military forces of the world will soon fight there.
First, Israel's neighbors -then the superpowers which remain at the time and their allies.

For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand) 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

5Moreover the multitude of thy strangers shall be like small dust, and the multitude of the terrible ones shall be as chaff that passeth away: yea, it shall be at an instant suddenly. 6Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire. 7And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel, even all that fight against her and her munition, and that distress her, shall be as a dream of a night vision. 8It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and, behold, he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite: so shall the multitude of all the nations be, that fight against mount Zion.

 

[Tazarah]

The above is true -it WILL happen.
Where are they in captivity -true captivity -now?
Anyway -this is specifically talking about something yet future -but not long off.
Perhaps you do not realize just how trodden down Jerusalem will be.
Nearly all of the military forces of the world will soon fight there.
First, Israel's neighbors -then the superpowers which remain at the time and their allies.

For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand) 16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

5Moreover the multitude of thy strangers shall be like small dust, and the multitude of the terrible ones shall be as chaff that passeth away: yea, it shall be at an instant suddenly. 6Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with earthquake, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire. 7And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel, even all that fight against her and her munition, and that distress her, shall be as a dream of a night vision. 8It shall even be as when an hungry man dreameth, and, behold, he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, he is faint, and his soul hath appetite: so shall the multitude of all the nations be, that fight against mount Zion.

Luke 21:24 is not talking about a future event. Luke 21:24 is speaking about 70 AD and the siege of Jerusalem. It says that the Israelites fell and were taken as captives into all nations. It already happened. Zechariah 14 is a prophecy speaking about what will happen once the Israelites are placed back into the holy land after being gathered from the lands of their captivities (Jeremiah 30:7-11, Ezekiel 20:34-38).

 

[Tazarah]

Your argument has a great big hole in the middle.

Fix it.

I can't even take you seriously anymore at this point. You're making false claims and then demanding that I prove them for you. Either prove that the river has never dried up before like you've asserted, or stop talking.