The entire ME is headed towards being 100% Muslim

[Tumah]

Was the law protecting those within the law or those without it?

It depends what you mean by "the law". If you mean the actual code of law, than it was protecting those within it. If you mean the law enforcement, than it seems they were protecting those not obeying it.

What I was saying was that the Christians there even though they may have been within their rights, were still morally wrong. Stepping on other people's toes just because its legal, doesn't make it you right.

 

[FearGod]

Sometimes...
Almohad Caliphate - Wikipedia

Yes it always depends on who rules, German isn't bad for Hitler being so,
the same for the Jews, instead of having lessons from the past and being
suffered during some parts of their history, they're doing the same towards
the Palestinians of using force to humiliate them.

 

[Tumah]

Yes it always depends on who rules, German isn't bad for Hitler being so,
the same for the Jews, instead of having lessons from the past and being
suffered during some parts of their history, they're doing the same towards
the Palestinians of using force to humiliate them.

I like how for you Germans aren't bad, its Hitler who was the problem
But when it comes Jews, its "the Jews" not "the Israeli (or even the Jewish) leader" who's the problem.

Unfortunately, this is a thing.
Child suicide bombers in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia

 

[Notanumber]

Stepping on other people's toes just because its legal, doesn't make it you right.

Of course it does, there should not be no go zones in a free country.

 

[Tumah]

Of course it does, there should not be no go zones in a free country.

So what you're saying people shouldn't respect other people's beliefs and opinions - regardless of whether they have the legal right not to - in a free country.

 

[FearGod]

I like how for you Germans aren't bad, its Hitler who was the problem
But when it comes Jews, its "the Jews" not "the Israeli (or even the Jewish) leader" who's the problem.

Is it really hard to understand.

I spoke about the Jews, here what I said first
and even Muslims invasion to Spain and Europe
were blessing to the Jews who were treated badly in Europe.

You said that the Jews suffered sometimes by Muslims during history
Sometimes...
Almohad Caliphate - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almohad_Caliphate
I said Jews should learn from history and stop humiliating the Palestinians in
the west bank, the Palestinians are arm less and the stones are their weapons

Unfortunately, this is a thing.
Child suicide bombers in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia

Your excuse is even uglier than the guilt done by the soldier against an innocent child,
I am not surprised that you agree with the soldier, it depends how human the person is
and how brave he's.

 

[LuisDantas]

As if Israel not fighting for the Jewish state and as if Palestinians are treated well in Israel.

(..,)
As if Muslims are treated well in your own homeland.

(...)

I can't help but feel that you are not paying attention.

 

[FearGod]

I can't help but feel that you are not paying attention.

The ME is where I live, and that's why I don't pay attention

The situation isn't as what you hear in the media, Muslims and Christians are living in
peace and the terrorists are killing everyone regardless of their religions, they're killing
Muslim soldiers in Egypt, in Syria, in Iraq...etc or you don't see it, what you see is that
Muslims are killing Christians and that's it, but no it isn't but it's because you hate Islam
and religion then you have such topics as fun for you.

 

[Notanumber]

So what you're saying people shouldn't respect other people's beliefs and opinions - regardless of whether they have the legal right not to - in a free country.

Respect should be earned, not demanded. You seem to think that the Christians were making mischief in the land.

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

 

[Godobeyer]

I am not seeing it, myself.

Yes he was using generalizing speech , by saying "Muslims" instead of "extrem Muslim" or "terrorists".

As I say all Christians blamed for Nazis crimes ?
All Westerns are blamed for crimes done in Iraq (other countries) by army ?

How is that relevant? Of course the conflict scares and inconveniences the Muslims as well. That goes without saying.

This what OP missing, most of victime of terrorism(this conflict are/were the Muslims.

Not anti-Muslims. Anti-Islaam.

By time I convinced that @icehorse is anti-Muslims and anti-Islam ,and biased to Israel.

His posts and threads saying that always.

 

[LuisDantas]

The ME is where I live, and that's why I don't pay attention

When you imply that Israel treats Palestinians (inside Israel, I assume, and not being involved in violence) worse than the counterpart, I can't help but doubt your attention.

The situation isn't as what you hear in the media, Muslims and Christians are living in
peace and the terrorists are killing everyone regardless of their religions, they're killing
Muslim soldiers in Egypt, in Syria, in Iraq...etc or you don't see it, what you see is that
Muslims are killing Christians and that's it, but no it isn't but it's because you hate Islam
and religion then you have such topics as fun for you.

Muslims are of course being killed as well. That is par of course when they are also the fertile ground and the "betrayers of the faith".

And I have already told you. I do not hate religion. Islaam is not even a religion.

 

[LuisDantas]

Yes he was using generalizing speech , by saying "Muslims" instead of "extrem Muslim" or "terrorists".

I don't think that would be very proper as of now.

As I say all Christians blamed for Nazis crimes ?
All Westerns are blamed for crimes done in Iraq (other countries) by army ?

That is a good question to ask.

This what OP missing, most of victime of terrorism(this conflict are/were the Muslims.

Sorry, but that is not relevant.

By time I convinced that @icehorse is anti-Muslims and anti-Islam ,and biased to Israel.

His posts and threads saying that always.

We can't help but notice what the facts indicate and speak our minds.

 

[Godobeyer]

i don't think that would be very proper as of now.

Do you know what I meant by generalizing ?

That is a good question to ask.

That's questions about "generalizing"

Sorry, but that is not relevant.

Because the OP is biased to Christians not humanity.
fact it's anti-Muslims.

We can't help but notice what the facts indicate and speak our minds.

You can't help sunshine comes to earth too

 

[icehorse]

Because the OP is biased to Christians not humanity.

I'm sorry, you're simply wrong about that. You can find many threads on this forum in which I'm quite critical of Christianity. I believe what my signature lines says, I'm an anti-theist. Now some religions are worse offenders when it comes to human rights, and I'm most critical of those.

 

[LuisDantas]

Do you know what I meant by generalizing ?

That's questions about "generalizing"

Because the OP is biased to Christians not humanity.
fact it's anti-Muslims.

You can't help sunshine comes to earth too

Godobeyer, please take a look here.

List of political parties in Israel - Wikipedia

There are dozens of political parties in Israel, including a few that have seats and defend Arab interests in Israel, and even Islamism.

Meanwhile, the Palestinians of today have raised Hamas to power. Hamas, a party that officially pursues the destruction of Israel and sponsors frequent rocket attacks towards it.

How can you know of that and still claim that Israel is not as fair to Muslims as Muslims are to Israelis or Jewish People?

 

[icehorse]

As if Muslims are treated well in your own homeland

Hi FearGod,

Are you saying that Muslims should be excused because others act badly? If so, here's what I would say to that:

- Muslim immigrants are treated extremely well in the West, especially compared to how non-Muslims are treated in the ME.
- I am quite critical of my government, and you can find many of my posts that say so.
- Muslims should be MOST afraid of other Muslims. Most of the Muslims who are murdered are killed by other Muslims. This has been going on since long before "the west" was ever a factor.
- And finally, is that your standard of what's moral and ethical? It's okay if other people do it? Sorry, that's a horrible moral stance. As individuals, we need to do better than that.

 

[leibowde84]

Hello.

You are seeing the situation by one eye (anti-Muslims and pro-Isreal), not panorama vision or by justice thinking.

fact you analyse consequences (by one eye too),you skipp the bad/evil role of West in ME,you ignore the big facture the involvement of West in ME,also you skipped that also Muslims are/were victimes and there millions of Muslims leaving ME with Christains because of all above.

I personally find it annoying by seeing someone biased all time, and wasting his time in that "hateful" thinking.

So, do you not find a problem with non-muslims being treated as 2nd class citizens in majority muslim countries, discrimination of non-muslims in majority muslim countries, etc.?

I get what you are saying, btw, but any child can tell you that 2 wrongs don't make a right. Just because Muslims are being discriminated against doesn't make their discrimination of non-Muslims any more acceptable.

 

[FearGod]

Hi FearGod,

Are you saying that Muslims should be excused because others act badly? If so, here's what I would say to that:

- Muslim immigrants are treated extremely well in the West, especially compared to how non-Muslims are treated in the ME.
- I am quite critical of my government, and you can find many of my posts that say so.
- Muslims should be MOST afraid of other Muslims. Most of the Muslims who are murdered are killed by other Muslims. This has been going on since long before "the west" was ever a factor.
- And finally, is that your standard of what's moral and ethical? It's okay if other people do it? Sorry, that's a horrible moral stance. As individuals, we need to do better than that.

I didn't say they're excused to kill, but you aren't telling the truth(a polite way to say a liar), as Godobeyer said you don't see but with one eye, you're programmed to be what you're like a robot.

Yes Muslims immigrants are treated well in the west, but no choices,it's either to die in Syria due to violence or to live as a dog abroad while hoping that their country will be a secure state as it was before.

 

[leibowde84]

Yes it always depends on who rules, German isn't bad for Hitler being so,
the same for the Jews, instead of having lessons from the past and being
suffered during some parts of their history, they're doing the same towards
the Palestinians of using force to humiliate them.

Actually, German citizens were to blame (at least in large part) for Hitler. They supported him, in many circumstances ignoring the Nazi treatment of Jews, slavs, gypsies, homosexuals, the disabled, etc. Throughout Hitler's reign and especially when he invaded France, the German people were behind their Fuhrer. So, the Germans who supported Hitler were certainly to blame back then.

 

[FearGod]

When you imply that Israel treats Palestinians (inside Israel, I assume, and not being involved in violence) worse than the counterpart, I can't help but doubt your attention.

Was the kid involved in the violence for making fun out of him.

Muslims are of course being killed as well. That is par of course when they are also the fertile ground and the "betrayers of the faith".

You mean Islam is the cause for killing, but why they want to fight NK, is it because NK is
an Islamic state, but it seems that the world understand the language of the jungle, they
can't fight NK for 2 reasons, one that NK has the Nuclear weapons and second the neighbor
countries won't allow a war in their region, so no one will stop NK from becoming a super power.

And I have already told you. I do not hate religion. Islaam is not even a religion.

Islam isn't a religion, so what it's?