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The evolution of the eye

ADigitalArtist

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Okay. But the people you hear actually saw it happen and could see it happen. Who saw an ape become a man or a fish become a bird?
You've never seen the core of the Earth, or mountains rise from sea beds, or a black hole. We use equipment and deductive reasoning to establish relationships between data and conclusions.
I would say there is more evidence of evolution of lizards to birds than there is of black holes, not just from fossil studies, but from everything to genetics and microbiology to zoology, embryology, and virology.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
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I never claimed I had proof. You did, however.


Ahh right so now we know exactly what you are, let me quote
"I have absolute proof in the word and Spirit of God."

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The evolution of the eye

And i have provided links to over 12000 papers from scientists in varying fields that confirm macro evolution is real. It may be falsified just once to make then all invalid but that has not happened despite all the hullabaloo shouted by fundamentalists and creationists groups and individuals who claim exactly the same as you and like you have nothing substantial to discredit the evidence.
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
That isn't a valid comparison. We can see that the earth revolves around the sun.
Who has seen the earth orbit the sun?

And you've left a couple of questions on the table....

Why do you think I'm an atheist?

Would scientists seeing and documenting a unicellular population evolving into multicelluar organisms be "proof" of macroevolution?
 
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Langkawi bent-toed gecko (Cyrtodactylus macrotuberculatus)
Science is observing them evolve from forest dwelling to cave dwelling on a generation by generation basis

Pygmy three-toed sloth (Bradypus pygmaeus)
Did not exist at the end of the last ice age, this species has evolved in only the last 10,000 years

Bamboo shark (Hemiscyllium galei)
Although this shark can swim if it needs to, it is usually found walking the sands of Cenderawasih Bay, West Papua.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It's positively fascinating. Fundamentalists exhibit a way of thinking that is so foreign to me, I can't help but poke at it.

It fascinates me how they can function as human beings and hold down a job in this world.
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
Ahh right so now we know exactly what you are, let me quote
"I have absolute proof in the word and Spirit of God."

Post #105 of this thread

The evolution of the eye

And i have provided links to over 12000 papers from scientists in varying fields that confirm macro evolution is real. It may be falsified just once to make then all invalid but that has not happened despite all the hullabaloo shouted by fundamentalists and creationists groups and individuals who claim exactly the same as you and like you have nothing substantial to discredit the evidence.

God has proved His existence to me through His word and His Spirit. But since you believe in neither it doesn't do much good to bring them up. If you truly seek Him with all your heart you will find Him. But first you must at least believe He might exist before you can do that.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
God has proved His existence to me through His word and His Spirit. But since you believe in neither it doesn't do much good to bring them up. If you truly seek Him with all your heart you will find Him. But first you must at least believe He might exist before you can do that.

Yet you made the claim and denied making the claim

Btw, you need to do some research on the meaning of proof
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
God has proved His existence to me through His word and His Spirit. But since you believe in neither it doesn't do much good to bring them up. If you truly seek Him with all your heart you will find Him. But first you must at least believe He might exist before you can do that.

I am going to give a 2nd reply to this post.

You demand evidence (and ignore it) for what you won't believe while expecting others to accept your refusal to provide evidence of the reason for your demand

Creationism is that one sided?
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
Yet you made the claim and denied making the claim

Btw, you need to do some research on the meaning of proof

Well, I should have been more specific, I'll give you that. I should have made it clear that He has revealed the truth to me through His Spirit and word, but that doesn't apply to everyone.

But even so Romans 1:20 says it's obvious God exists and created, even though you don't believe it.
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
I am going to give a 2nd reply to this post.

You demand evidence (and ignore it) for what you won't believe while expecting others to accept your refusal to provide evidence of the reason for your demand

Creationism is that one sided?

Most Christians believe that since it is obvious that God created, no further proof is necessary.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Well, I should have been more specific, I'll give you that. I should have made it clear that He has revealed the truth to me through His Spirit and word, but that doesn't apply to everyone.

But even so Romans 1:20 says it's obvious God exists and created, even though you don't believe it.

Yet you made the claim and denied making the claim. And now excuse your untruth by evidence's
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
Same here. For me it seems quite stupid to believe in macro-evolution. But people do believe it.
Who has seen the earth orbit the sun?

Why do you think I'm an atheist?

Would scientists seeing and documenting a unicellular population evolving into multicelluar organisms be "proof" of macroevolution?
 
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