I perfectly agree.
But not in the West.
There are too many countries where women are really mistreated and need to be helped.
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The Feminism of the 21st century
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But not in the West.
There are too many countries where women are really mistreated and need to be helped.
Orbit
I'm a planet
Charity starts at home.
I decided to start this thread to understand how feminism has evolved since the 20th century.
Now women are safeguarded by lots of laws, and cannot be considered a "weak" gender, since there is a huge quantity of laws protecting women's rights and punishing gender inequality and gender discrimination.
So what I am wondering is: is feminism in the West still a political priority?
I guess it's not.
In the West feminists fight for non-existent problems, forgetting that feminism is desperately needed in those countries where women have no rights. And they are considered inferior to men.
I am asking feminists to explain me this: thank you in advance.
I suppose it would largely depend on how feminism is defined, since it seems to be perceived and interpreted in different ways. The laws regarding equality and gender discrimination are clear enough, but when it comes to the cultural or social realm, it can get a bit murky at times.
Like I stated before: feminism operates mostly within its own cultural nomos by bringing the cultural nomos into consciousness and examining it. This is an ongoing process. Just because there are other cultural nomos that need critiquing does not justify quitting self-examination of ones own culture.
It's the usual Divide et Impera.
That is...to foment the battle of the sexes instead of favoring unity.
Because the élites are afraid of the united people.
Nowadays women are liberated. They just need to cooperate with men to make society much more equitable.
You referred to The West as a whole. This directly references a cultural nomos.
Nomos (sociology) - Wikipedia
You referred to The West as a whole. This directly references a cultural nomos.
Nomos (sociology) - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I don't understand what you mean to convey.
You need to give me a practical example.
Alright, what exactly do you mean when you say The West?
Your answer will reflect your understanding of the cultural nomos. I can then look for any gaps in your understanding and help fill them in.
Orbit
I'm a planet
It's the set of assumptions about how the world is that are shared by members of a society. The nomos of patriarchy manifests in the assumptions that people have, like that a woman will take the man's name after marriage, or that men are better car mechanics than women, or that professional women should really be at home taking care of their children. It's a worldview.
The West...the US, Europe, Australia.
They were cultural nomoi in the fifties.
Alright you have got the historically specific aspect of the cultural nomos down, which refers to place and time, which defines the boundaries of the cultural nomos. The contents of the nomos within these boundaries consists of the social-cultural and political attitudes, behaviours, and philosophical assumptions adopted by the people within these boundaries--the way the society is organized, the values embraced, and the philosophical axioms regarding reality taken for granted by the people within those boundaries. It is the realm where peer pressure, gender stereotypes and other stereotypes, assumed hierarchies, love of freedom or love of order, etc., takes place.
The fact that there might exist local variations within the entire nomos provides a sort of camouflage to the greater nomos, which helps to keep the greater nomos within the unconscious.
These are good practical examples of aspects of the nomos.
Orbit
I'm a planet
I referred not to the 1950s, but to contemporary attitudes.
This would be more like a form of colonialism (one culture supplanting the values of another culture,) rather than working within ones own culture to bring the nomos into consciousness.
Just one question: to you and to @crossfire
The fact that in my country TV host wear these outfits, does it mean that women are still prisoners of those cultural nomoi?
Don't you think that it's living proof that those nomoi are over? That women are free to wear whatever they like without fear of being misjudged?
Orbit
I'm a planet
Yeah, well, Imagine creating a thread questioning the need for Feminism after the most basic and fundamental human right of all - that of bodily autonomy - was basically erased at the national level for women. I mean... really?If I had wanted to deal with abortion, I would have titled my thread: abortion rights.
Just... really? With that evil happening you can seriously ask whether Feminism needs to be a political priority?
Really?!
When we just became second class citizens again?!
If abortion rights are limited, a good solution could be to use contraception.
It's an American problem, then.
I mean...if American women really wanted to get rid of those cultural nomoi, they would stop taking the husband's surname. That would be a start.