The first creature could not have come into being by random chance. It is impossible.

[SavedByTheLord]

Oh wait! You bring up a good point. Birds are dinosaurs.

Dinosaur - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Look at the temporal range in the light tan box near the top.

So the whole range is just already proven false.

There is dino tissue that is not C-14 dead. The same with coal, diamonds and other things.
That proofs that the evolutionist timeline is false.
The worldwide flood made a mess of C-14 dating.

How do you explain the Cambrian explosion?

Why are there living fossils?

How does one explain polystrate trees?

How does one explain soft tissue and blood vessels in dinosaur tissue?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue with DNA and other biomolecules still being intact?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue, and diamonds that are not C-14 dead?

Why is there too much C-14 in some samples of coal and fossilized wood?

How do you explain parentless polonium 210 radiohaloes in granites?

How do you explain elliptical polonium 210 halos in the same strata with circular halos?

There is a great deception in some of the ages that are quoted by evolutionists. Why the deception?

There are inconsistencies in the radioactive dating results of many things. So isochron dating has been used. But even then, there are many large discrepancies. Why?

The inconsistencies in the dating of things and in all “clocks” used to set the age of things can be simply explained if some miraculous events occurred. These would be 6-day creation, the fall of man and the curse on creation and the worldwide flood about 4500 years ago.

What is the recipe for primordial soup, and can I buy a can of it?

There is a lack of a 50-50 racemization of amino acids in fossils. Why?

There are discontinuous fossil sequences in the fossil record. Why?

Oil, coal, and opals can be formed rapidly under certain conditions. Why the deception?

The evidence is that the coal beads and fossilized wood were formed rapidly. Why?

There are missing layers representing millions of years. Why?

Why are there ephemeral markings at the boundaries of layers? That shows rapid deposit.

If intelligent man was around for 100,000 years or so, why did he not figure out how to drop a seed in the ground and farm?

History is too short. Why?

The Great Barrier reef is only 4200 years old; the oldest tree is only 4300 years old. Why?

The age of the Sahara Desert is only 4000 years old. Why?



There is too much helium in radioactive rocks. Why?

There is helium in old zircon crystals. Why?

Thick sedimentary rock layers bent beyond the fracturing point, yet not fractured. Why?

The Mississippi river delta and deltas around the world show the result of one large flood like the worldwide flood. Why?

The arms of spiral galaxies should no longer exist, but they do. Why?

There is not enough helium in the earth’s atmosphere to support an old atmosphere. Why?

There is not enough sediment at the bottom of the sea to support an old earth. Why?

High speed objects in globular clusters show that they are young. Why?

Living fossils invalidate not only the age and origin of the sedimentary rock but refute evolution over eons.

The natural direction of life is degeneration not evolution.

The genetic load in all creatures means they would have ceased to exist after so much time. They have not. Why?

The DNA, RNA, and proteins with some of these being enzymes is a triply interconnected irreducibly complex system. Evolution could not be the mechanism to produce these.
There are depictions of dinosaurs from ancient cultures. Why?

Job 40:15-19 describes a plant eating dinosaur, probably Brachiosaurus. Why?

Almost all ancient cultures have a record of a worldwide blood and a remnant saved on a great boat, sometimes 8 people. How do explain that?

All population growth statistics invalidate mankind being around for more than 6000 years old but match only 8 people being saved in the ark. This matches the world at the time of Christ and today.

It does not seem that there is enough force for the Indian sub-continent to have crashed into Asia and raised the Himalayan Mountain range with just plate tectonics. Why?



The dim young sun paradox invalidates long ages for the sun, evolution, and life on the earth.

The rate of recession of the moon from the earth limits the age of the moon.

The rapid decline of the Earth’s magnetic strength limits the age of the earth. Why?

The salt content of the oceans is too low for an old earth. Why?

The concentration of various minerals in the ocean limits the age of the oceans. Why?

The rock layers show no signs of erosion between layers. Why?

There is no time between rock layers for slow deposition. Why?

There is not enough erosion of continental plates for an old earth. Why?

Earth is not cooled enough for it to be old. Why?

Earth’s rotation rate is slowing for it to be old. Why?
Haeckel’s drawings were not accurate, yet his drawings are still used for evolution. Why the fraud?

Nebraska man was not a man. Why the fraud?

The Milken experiment is a disaster for evolutionists. Why the deception.

Beware of the old con “the building blocks of life”. Why the deception?

 

[Little Dragon]

Oh wait! You bring up a good point. Birds are dinosaurs.

Dinosaur - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Look at the temporal range in the light tan box near the top.

Indeed, most western people have dinosaur for thanksgiving or christmas. Technically. Depends on how you want to split or lump your clades!

 

[PureX]

The first creature could not have come into being by random chance. It is impossible.

They didn't. Chance has a role in the ongoing expression of existence that we call the "universe", certainly. And including te many forms of life. But it's not "random" chance. It's chance that occurs within a very narrow range of possibilities.

Therefore, God created all things.

But that doesn't really tell us anything, as the term "God" is just a word. It has no knowledge, or substance, or particular meaning attached to it. It's just letters on a screen. "Something" created all things. But what? We can call it "God", but that doesn't tell us anything about it. So it's an answer that doesnlt answer anything of our questions. It just labels them ... "God".

A simple elegant proof.

It's an empty observation: "Something" created all things. We call that something "God", now. So "God" created all things. OK, but ... so what? We still know nothing more that we did before this "elegant proof" (observation).

Assume no God. Show the contradiction. Therefore, God exists.

Assume there was no "something" to create all things. It makes no sense. Because things cannot have created themselves from nothing (which is all there would be if there was no "something"). Therefor something must have been, before all things were created by it.

But again, we still know nothing about this "something" (that we are labeling "God"). We keep making statements, and they are logical, but they convey no actual content.

The proof that the Bible is the true word of God is also easy.

What does the Bible have to do with the original premise that "something" must have created all that is because it couldn't have created itself from nothing? There are hundreds of creation myths invented by humans to represent this great mystery "something" that created it all. The Bible contains just one of those myths. Ad to be honest, the myth of Eden in Genesis isn't really about the creation of all that is, it's about why humans are the way we are.

The atheists have been deceived into believing that the first creature could come into existence by random chance.

Yes, I agree that many atheists foolishly do believe this even though it's fundamentally illogical. But then many theists just as foolishly believe that the Eden myth in the Bible is historical fact. Which is is not.

Simple analysis shows it is impossible.

Simple logical analysis shows that BOTH of these beliefs are impossible. But that certainly does not stop people from believing them to be the truth, anyway. This is just how people are.

There is no record that it ever did.

There are no "records" apart from existence, itself.

So, the evolutionist has the burden of proof.

There is no "burden of proof" because no human is capable of ascertaining or validating such proof. We are left facing a great mystery. One that many of us choose to call "God", and yet that the label does nothing to clarify of resolve.

 

[Little Dragon]

So the whole range is just already proven false.

There is dino tissue that is not C-14 dead. The same with coal, diamonds and other things.
That proofs that the evolutionist timeline is false.
The worldwide flood made a mess of C-14 dating.

How do you explain the Cambrian explosion?

Why are there living fossils?

How does one explain polystrate trees?

How does one explain soft tissue and blood vessels in dinosaur tissue?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue with DNA and other biomolecules still being intact?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue, and diamonds that are not C-14 dead?

Why is there too much C-14 in some samples of coal and fossilized wood?

How do you explain parentless polonium 210 radiohaloes in granites?

How do you explain elliptical polonium 210 halos in the same strata with circular halos?

There is a great deception in some of the ages that are quoted by evolutionists. Why the deception?

There are inconsistencies in the radioactive dating results of many things. So isochron dating has been used. But even then, there are many large discrepancies. Why?

The inconsistencies in the dating of things and in all “clocks” used to set the age of things can be simply explained if some miraculous events occurred. These would be 6-day creation, the fall of man and the curse on creation and the worldwide flood about 4500 years ago.

What is the recipe for primordial soup, and can I buy a can of it?

There is a lack of a 50-50 racemization of amino acids in fossils. Why?

There are discontinuous fossil sequences in the fossil record. Why?

Oil, coal, and opals can be formed rapidly under certain conditions. Why the deception?

The evidence is that the coal beads and fossilized wood were formed rapidly. Why?

There are missing layers representing millions of years. Why?

Why are there ephemeral markings at the boundaries of layers? That shows rapid deposit.

If intelligent man was around for 100,000 years or so, why did he not figure out how to drop a seed in the ground and farm?

History is too short. Why?

The Great Barrier reef is only 4200 years old; the oldest tree is only 4300 years old. Why?

The age of the Sahara Desert is only 4000 years old. Why?



There is too much helium in radioactive rocks. Why?

There is helium in old zircon crystals. Why?

Thick sedimentary rock layers bent beyond the fracturing point, yet not fractured. Why?

The Mississippi river delta and deltas around the world show the result of one large flood like the worldwide flood. Why?

The arms of spiral galaxies should no longer exist, but they do. Why?

There is not enough helium in the earth’s atmosphere to support an old atmosphere. Why?

There is not enough sediment at the bottom of the sea to support an old earth. Why?

High speed objects in globular clusters show that they are young. Why?

Living fossils invalidate not only the age and origin of the sedimentary rock but refute evolution over eons.

The natural direction of life is degeneration not evolution.

The genetic load in all creatures means they would have ceased to exist after so much time. They have not. Why?

The DNA, RNA, and proteins with some of these being enzymes is a triply interconnected irreducibly complex system. Evolution could not be the mechanism to produce these.
There are depictions of dinosaurs from ancient cultures. Why?

Job 40:15-19 describes a plant eating dinosaur, probably Brachiosaurus. Why?

Almost all ancient cultures have a record of a worldwide blood and a remnant saved on a great boat, sometimes 8 people. How do explain that?

All population growth statistics invalidate mankind being around for more than 6000 years old but match only 8 people being saved in the ark. This matches the world at the time of Christ and today.

It does not seem that there is enough force for the Indian sub-continent to have crashed into Asia and raised the Himalayan Mountain range with just plate tectonics. Why?



The dim young sun paradox invalidates long ages for the sun, evolution, and life on the earth.

The rate of recession of the moon from the earth limits the age of the moon.

The rapid decline of the Earth’s magnetic strength limits the age of the earth. Why?

The salt content of the oceans is too low for an old earth. Why?

The concentration of various minerals in the ocean limits the age of the oceans. Why?

The rock layers show no signs of erosion between layers. Why?

There is no time between rock layers for slow deposition. Why?

There is not enough erosion of continental plates for an old earth. Why?

Earth is not cooled enough for it to be old. Why?

Earth’s rotation rate is slowing for it to be old. Why?
Haeckel’s drawings were not accurate, yet his drawings are still used for evolution. Why the fraud?

Nebraska man was not a man. Why the fraud?

The Milken experiment is a disaster for evolutionists. Why the deception.

Beware of the old con “the building blocks of life”. Why the deception?

All those claims. No supporting evidence. Tsk tsk!

 

[osgart]

It's inevitable that a natural pathway to first life occured obeying physical laws and processes. It is not so clear that it happened through mindless processes. A non living intelligent program relying on biological information is quite possible. Since we have conscious beings with intellect, and a semantic code found in DNA it's most likely that life spawned life on earth from a distant source. The fine tuning of the universe also suggests an intelligent evolution but nothing supernatural.

So it's entirely plausible that life has its own dimension relying on information to create life that lives by purposes, and extracting meaning from reality.

Mindlessness does not produce mindfulness. The story of life must go beyond sense observation for many reasons. Physicalists think observation will tell the whole story, but intrinsic nature of life goes well beyond the purview of science. The idea that sense observation tells the whole story enters the realm of philosophy and is far from being proven.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It's inevitable that a natural pathway to first life occured obeying physical laws and processes. It is not so clear that it happened through mindless processes. A non living intelligent program relying on biological information is quite possible. Since we have conscious beings with intellect, and a semantic code found in DNA it's most likely that life spawned life on earth from a distant source. The fine tuning of the universe also suggests an intelligent evolution but nothing supernatural.

So it's entirely plausible that life has its own dimension relying on information to create life that lives by purposes, and extracting meaning from reality.

Mindlessness does not produce mindfulness. The story of life must go beyond sense observation for many reasons. Physicalists think observation will tell the whole story, but intrinsic nature of life goes well beyond the purview of science. The idea that sense observation tells the whole story enters the realm of philosophy and is far from being proven.

Do you have anything besides failed arguments to support these claims?

 

[Little Dragon]

It's inevitable that a natural pathway to first life occured obeying physical laws and processes. It is not so clear that it happened through mindless processes. A non living intelligent program relying on biological information is quite possible. Since we have conscious beings with intellect, and a semantic code found in DNA it's most likely that life spawned life on earth from a distant source. The fine tuning of the universe also suggests an intelligent evolution but nothing supernatural.

So it's entirely plausible that life has its own dimension relying on information to create life that lives by purposes, and extracting meaning from reality.

Mindlessness does not produce mindfulness. The story of life must go beyond sense observation for many reasons. Physicalists think observation will tell the whole story, but intrinsic nature of life goes well beyond the purview of science. The idea that sense observation tells the whole story enters the realm of philosophy and is far from being proven.

What is a mind? An emergent property of a neural network? Essentially an information processing system? I think so, because my brain is in fact a neural network, it permits that abstract intellectual capacity, ie I possess a 'mind'. That has evolved, with ever increasing complexity, over billions of years. Moulded by countless interactions with physical reality, the environment and it's denizens. Everything on Earth, a product of dynamic and systemic interaction with everything ELSE on Earth. This naturalistic vision, in my view, because of its logical reducibility and not in spite of it, is wondrous. Truly wondrous. The dance of matter and energy, leading to emergent phenomena, from stars to starfish. My mind staggers at this realization. I was shock.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

All those claims. No supporting evidence. Tsk tsk!

Look it up. Please explain these inconsistencies.

How do you explain the Cambrian explosion? How is there all the body plans already there with nothing proceeding it? How are there advanced eyes of the trilobite there but nothing before it? What about all the other features that are in these creatures and nothing proceeded them?

Why are there living fossils? How can a species that supposedly died out 70 million years ago be alive and look exactly like the 70 million year old one.

How does one explain polystrate trees? No way that could happen into solid rock of an older layer or to sit out in the open while sediment taking 10,000s of years cover it.

How does one explain soft tissue and blood vessels in dinosaur tissue?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue with DNA and other biomolecules still being intact?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue, and diamonds that are not C-14 dead?

Why is there too much C-14 in some samples of coal and fossilized wood?

How do you explain parentless polonium 210 radiohaloes in granites?

How do you explain elliptical polonium 210 halos in the same strata with circular halos?

There is a great deception in some of the ages that are quoted by evolutionists. Why the deception?

There are inconsistencies in the radioactive dating results of many things. So isochron dating has been used. But even then, there are many large discrepancies. Why?

The inconsistencies in the dating of things and in all “clocks” used to set the age of things can be simply explained if some miraculous events occurred. These would be 6-day creation, the fall of man and the curse on creation and the worldwide flood about 4500 years ago.

There is a lack of a 50-50 racemization of amino acids in fossils. Why?

There are discontinuous fossil sequences in the fossil record. Why?

Oil, coal, and opals can be formed rapidly under certain conditions. Why the deception?

The evidence is that the coal beads and fossilized wood were formed rapidly. Why?

There are missing layers representing millions of years. Why?

Why are there ephemeral markings at the boundaries of layers? That shows rapid deposit.

If intelligent man was around for 100,000 years or so, why did he not figure out how to drop a seed in the ground and farm?

History is too short. Why?

There is too much helium in radioactive rocks. Why?

There is helium in old zircon crystals. Why?

Thick sedimentary rock layers bent beyond the fracturing point, yet not fractured. Why?

The Mississippi river delta and deltas around the world show the result of one large flood like the worldwide flood. Why?

The arms of spiral galaxies should no longer exist, but they do. Why?

There is not enough helium in the earth’s atmosphere to support an old atmosphere. Why?

There is not enough sediment at the bottom of the sea to support an old earth. Why?

High speed objects in globular clusters show that they are young. Why?

Living fossils invalidate not only the age and origin of the sedimentary rock but refute evolution over eons.

The natural direction of life is degeneration not evolution.

The genetic load in all creatures means they would have ceased to exist after so much time. They have not. Why?

The DNA, RNA, and proteins with some of these being enzymes is a triply interconnected irreducibly complex system. Evolution could not be the mechanism to produce these.
There are depictions of dinosaurs from ancient cultures. Why?

Job 40:15-19 describes a plant eating dinosaur, probably Brachiosaurus. Why?

Almost all ancient cultures have a record of a worldwide blood and a remnant saved on a great boat, sometimes 8 people. How do explain that?

All population growth statistics invalidate mankind being around for more than 6000 years old but match only 8 people being saved in the ark. This matches the world at the time of Christ and today.

It does not seem that there is enough force for the Indian sub-continent to have crashed into Asia and raised the Himalayan Mountain range with just plate tectonics. Why?

The dim young sun paradox invalidates long ages for the sun, evolution, and life on the earth.

The rate of recession of the moon from the earth limits the age of the moon.

The rapid decline of the Earth’s magnetic strength limits the age of the earth. Why?

The salt content of the oceans is too low for an old earth. Why?

The concentration of various minerals in the ocean limits the age of the oceans. Why?

The rock layers show no signs of erosion between layers. Why?

There is no time between rock layers for slow deposition. Why?

There is not enough erosion of continental plates for an old earth. Why?

Earth is not cooled enough for it to be old. Why?

Earth’s rotation rate is slowing for it to be old. Why?
Haeckel’s drawings were not accurate, yet his drawings are still used for evolution. Why the fraud?

Nebraska man was not a man. Why the fraud?

The Milken experiment is a disaster for evolutionists. Why the deception.

Beware of the old con “the building blocks of life”. Why the deception?

What was the first living thing made of? Was it DNA? Was it RNA? Was it just proteins? Was it some mix?

What was its code? How many codons was it? When did it come into being?

Where did it come into being? In space? In the atmosphere? In the ocean? In a tide pool?

In clay or mud? What protected it from UV rays? What was the composition of the atmosphere at that time?

If it was in water, how did the amino acids keep from being dissipated by the water?

What was the energy source for these reactions?

Where there any enzymes in it? Which ones? Certain required reactions need enzymes as catalysts. If not, the reaction may take a vast number of years. Surely the primitive thing could not last more than a minute much less than many years/

How did it survive? Where did the protective layer come from? What was the protected layer? How did that part get reproduced?

What was its food source? How did it remove waste? How did it repair itself?

Please explain how it was ever able to reproduce itself.

If the first living thing was just proteins, how did it ever get evolve to use RNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

If it was RNA based, how did it to ever evolve to use DNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

There should be millions of chains of missing links. All are missing. Why?

They should be finding missing links every day. Why not?

Please explain how anything that is irreducibly complex evolves.

Please explain how the eye came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how flight came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how blood clotting came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how the first multi cell creature came to be.

Please explain how the bone tissue came to be.

Please explain how the citrus cycle came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how ATP came to be and how the first creature that used it evolved that capability. The mechanism is irreducibly complex.

In fact, there are many things in living things that are irreducibly complex. Please explain how any of them evolved.

The science seems to have identified mitochondrial Eve and the recent origin of x chromosome Adam. This matches recent creation and destroys evolution. Why?

Short lived comets are a problem for long ages of the universe. Why?
Where are all the remains of all the people that have died? Where are all their artifacts? If mankind has been around for 100,000 years, there must be a lot more than has been found. Why?

 

[osgart]

Do you have anything besides failed arguments to support these claims?

They fail only in your philosophy and intuition. You have not demonstrated otherwise.

 

[Little Dragon]

Look it up. Please explain these inconsistencies.

How do you explain the Cambrian explosion? How is there all the body plans already there with nothing proceeding it? How are there advanced eyes of the trilobite there but nothing before it? What about all the other features that are in these creatures and nothing proceeded them?

Why are there living fossils? How can a species that supposedly died out 70 million years ago be alive and look exactly like the 70 million year old one.

How does one explain polystrate trees? No way that could happen into solid rock of an older layer or to sit out in the open while sediment taking 10,000s of years cover it.

How does one explain soft tissue and blood vessels in dinosaur tissue?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue with DNA and other biomolecules still being intact?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue, and diamonds that are not C-14 dead?

Why is there too much C-14 in some samples of coal and fossilized wood?

How do you explain parentless polonium 210 radiohaloes in granites?

How do you explain elliptical polonium 210 halos in the same strata with circular halos?

There is a great deception in some of the ages that are quoted by evolutionists. Why the deception?

There are inconsistencies in the radioactive dating results of many things. So isochron dating has been used. But even then, there are many large discrepancies. Why?

The inconsistencies in the dating of things and in all “clocks” used to set the age of things can be simply explained if some miraculous events occurred. These would be 6-day creation, the fall of man and the curse on creation and the worldwide flood about 4500 years ago.

There is a lack of a 50-50 racemization of amino acids in fossils. Why?

There are discontinuous fossil sequences in the fossil record. Why?

Oil, coal, and opals can be formed rapidly under certain conditions. Why the deception?

The evidence is that the coal beads and fossilized wood were formed rapidly. Why?

There are missing layers representing millions of years. Why?

Why are there ephemeral markings at the boundaries of layers? That shows rapid deposit.

If intelligent man was around for 100,000 years or so, why did he not figure out how to drop a seed in the ground and farm?

History is too short. Why?

There is too much helium in radioactive rocks. Why?

There is helium in old zircon crystals. Why?

Thick sedimentary rock layers bent beyond the fracturing point, yet not fractured. Why?

The Mississippi river delta and deltas around the world show the result of one large flood like the worldwide flood. Why?

The arms of spiral galaxies should no longer exist, but they do. Why?

There is not enough helium in the earth’s atmosphere to support an old atmosphere. Why?

There is not enough sediment at the bottom of the sea to support an old earth. Why?

High speed objects in globular clusters show that they are young. Why?

Living fossils invalidate not only the age and origin of the sedimentary rock but refute evolution over eons.

The natural direction of life is degeneration not evolution.

The genetic load in all creatures means they would have ceased to exist after so much time. They have not. Why?

The DNA, RNA, and proteins with some of these being enzymes is a triply interconnected irreducibly complex system. Evolution could not be the mechanism to produce these.
There are depictions of dinosaurs from ancient cultures. Why?

Job 40:15-19 describes a plant eating dinosaur, probably Brachiosaurus. Why?

Almost all ancient cultures have a record of a worldwide blood and a remnant saved on a great boat, sometimes 8 people. How do explain that?

All population growth statistics invalidate mankind being around for more than 6000 years old but match only 8 people being saved in the ark. This matches the world at the time of Christ and today.

It does not seem that there is enough force for the Indian sub-continent to have crashed into Asia and raised the Himalayan Mountain range with just plate tectonics. Why?

The dim young sun paradox invalidates long ages for the sun, evolution, and life on the earth.

The rate of recession of the moon from the earth limits the age of the moon.

The rapid decline of the Earth’s magnetic strength limits the age of the earth. Why?

The salt content of the oceans is too low for an old earth. Why?

The concentration of various minerals in the ocean limits the age of the oceans. Why?

The rock layers show no signs of erosion between layers. Why?

There is no time between rock layers for slow deposition. Why?

There is not enough erosion of continental plates for an old earth. Why?

Earth is not cooled enough for it to be old. Why?

Earth’s rotation rate is slowing for it to be old. Why?
Haeckel’s drawings were not accurate, yet his drawings are still used for evolution. Why the fraud?

Nebraska man was not a man. Why the fraud?

The Milken experiment is a disaster for evolutionists. Why the deception.

Beware of the old con “the building blocks of life”. Why the deception?

What was the first living thing made of? Was it DNA? Was it RNA? Was it just proteins? Was it some mix?

What was its code? How many codons was it? When did it come into being?

Where did it come into being? In space? In the atmosphere? In the ocean? In a tide pool?

In clay or mud? What protected it from UV rays? What was the composition of the atmosphere at that time?

If it was in water, how did the amino acids keep from being dissipated by the water?

What was the energy source for these reactions?

Where there any enzymes in it? Which ones? Certain required reactions need enzymes as catalysts. If not, the reaction may take a vast number of years. Surely the primitive thing could not last more than a minute much less than many years/

How did it survive? Where did the protective layer come from? What was the protected layer? How did that part get reproduced?

What was its food source? How did it remove waste? How did it repair itself?

Please explain how it was ever able to reproduce itself.

If the first living thing was just proteins, how did it ever get evolve to use RNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

If it was RNA based, how did it to ever evolve to use DNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

There should be millions of chains of missing links. All are missing. Why?

They should be finding missing links every day. Why not?

Please explain how anything that is irreducibly complex evolves.

Please explain how the eye came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how flight came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how blood clotting came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how the first multi cell creature came to be.

Please explain how the bone tissue came to be.

Please explain how the citrus cycle came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how ATP came to be and how the first creature that used it evolved that capability. The mechanism is irreducibly complex.

In fact, there are many things in living things that are irreducibly complex. Please explain how any of them evolved.

The science seems to have identified mitochondrial Eve and the recent origin of x chromosome Adam. This matches recent creation and destroys evolution. Why?

Short lived comets are a problem for long ages of the universe. Why?
Where are all the remains of all the people that have died? Where are all their artifacts? If mankind has been around for 100,000 years, there must be a lot more than has been found. Why?

Please, one at a time, important questions require proper consideration. Perhaps, post what you believe to be the top 3 questions or issues, you feel are contrary to the theory of evolution via natural selection? Just a suggestion. Might be more productive. Maybe?

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Please, one at a time, important questions require proper consideration. Perhaps, post what you believe to be the top 3 questions or issues, you feel are contrary to the theory of evolution via natural selection? Just a suggestion. Might be more productive. Maybe?

No. Just try any but I may critique your answers. But of course, to keep your theory you will have to answer all and that is just a small subset.

 

[osgart]

What is a mind? An emergent property of a neural network? Essentially an information processing system? I think so, because my brain is in fact a neural network, it permits that abstract intellectual capacity, ie I possess a 'mind'. That has evolved, with ever increasing complexity, over billions of years. Moulded by countless interactions with physical reality, the environment and it's denizens. Everything on Earth, a product of dynamic and systemic interaction with everything ELSE on Earth. This naturalistic vision, in my view, because of its logical reducibility and not in spite of it, is wondrous. Truly wondrous. The dance of matter and energy, leading to emergent phenomena, from stars to starfish. My mind staggers at this realization. I was shock.

How is the abstract intellectual capacity demonstrated to be from a neural network? Have you detected all this? What about identity self, and the contents of consciousness.

 

[Little Dragon]

No. Just try any but I may critique your answers. But of course, to keep your theory you will have to answer all and that is just a small subset.

Tis not my theory sir. I am but just a man who accepts it as the most concise and logically consistent explanation for all the myriad forms of life upon this planet. I have no emotional investment in this theory. It is subject to scrutiny and improvement and even falsification, although I suspect the latter is unlikely. It just makes all the sense in the world. Unlike, for example, certain fundamentally untestable hypothesis involving Gods and other such stuff. Those explain nothing at all. If you don't have any particular argument that you feel is a priority. Then I shall address your claims individually as they arise, not in the form of a huge list.

 

[Little Dragon]

How is the abstract intellectual capacity demonstrated to be from a neural network? Have you detected all this? What about identity self, and the contents of consciousness.

Your intellectual capacity, your memories, your suppressed anxieties, all are woven into the countless trillions of neural connections in your brain...your delicious brain...mmmm.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Look it up. Please explain these inconsistencies.

That is YOUR duty. YOUR job. YOUR responsibility.

If YOU do not attend to it, none of those you are directing this too have any obligation to do anything about it other than comment on the fact that it is a list of empty claims that need support.

YOU ARE ASSUMING that others have to answer them. YOU aren't abiding by YOUR OWN rule.

 

[McBell]

Look it up. Please explain these inconsistencies.

How do you explain the Cambrian explosion? How is there all the body plans already there with nothing proceeding it? How are there advanced eyes of the trilobite there but nothing before it? What about all the other features that are in these creatures and nothing proceeded them?

Why are there living fossils? How can a species that supposedly died out 70 million years ago be alive and look exactly like the 70 million year old one.

How does one explain polystrate trees? No way that could happen into solid rock of an older layer or to sit out in the open while sediment taking 10,000s of years cover it.

How does one explain soft tissue and blood vessels in dinosaur tissue?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue with DNA and other biomolecules still being intact?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue, and diamonds that are not C-14 dead?

Why is there too much C-14 in some samples of coal and fossilized wood?

How do you explain parentless polonium 210 radiohaloes in granites?

How do you explain elliptical polonium 210 halos in the same strata with circular halos?

There is a great deception in some of the ages that are quoted by evolutionists. Why the deception?

There are inconsistencies in the radioactive dating results of many things. So isochron dating has been used. But even then, there are many large discrepancies. Why?

The inconsistencies in the dating of things and in all “clocks” used to set the age of things can be simply explained if some miraculous events occurred. These would be 6-day creation, the fall of man and the curse on creation and the worldwide flood about 4500 years ago.

There is a lack of a 50-50 racemization of amino acids in fossils. Why?

There are discontinuous fossil sequences in the fossil record. Why?

Oil, coal, and opals can be formed rapidly under certain conditions. Why the deception?

The evidence is that the coal beads and fossilized wood were formed rapidly. Why?

There are missing layers representing millions of years. Why?

Why are there ephemeral markings at the boundaries of layers? That shows rapid deposit.

If intelligent man was around for 100,000 years or so, why did he not figure out how to drop a seed in the ground and farm?

History is too short. Why?

There is too much helium in radioactive rocks. Why?

There is helium in old zircon crystals. Why?

Thick sedimentary rock layers bent beyond the fracturing point, yet not fractured. Why?

The Mississippi river delta and deltas around the world show the result of one large flood like the worldwide flood. Why?

The arms of spiral galaxies should no longer exist, but they do. Why?

There is not enough helium in the earth’s atmosphere to support an old atmosphere. Why?

There is not enough sediment at the bottom of the sea to support an old earth. Why?

High speed objects in globular clusters show that they are young. Why?

Living fossils invalidate not only the age and origin of the sedimentary rock but refute evolution over eons.

The natural direction of life is degeneration not evolution.

The genetic load in all creatures means they would have ceased to exist after so much time. They have not. Why?

The DNA, RNA, and proteins with some of these being enzymes is a triply interconnected irreducibly complex system. Evolution could not be the mechanism to produce these.
There are depictions of dinosaurs from ancient cultures. Why?

Job 40:15-19 describes a plant eating dinosaur, probably Brachiosaurus. Why?

Almost all ancient cultures have a record of a worldwide blood and a remnant saved on a great boat, sometimes 8 people. How do explain that?

All population growth statistics invalidate mankind being around for more than 6000 years old but match only 8 people being saved in the ark. This matches the world at the time of Christ and today.

It does not seem that there is enough force for the Indian sub-continent to have crashed into Asia and raised the Himalayan Mountain range with just plate tectonics. Why?

The dim young sun paradox invalidates long ages for the sun, evolution, and life on the earth.

The rate of recession of the moon from the earth limits the age of the moon.

The rapid decline of the Earth’s magnetic strength limits the age of the earth. Why?

The salt content of the oceans is too low for an old earth. Why?

The concentration of various minerals in the ocean limits the age of the oceans. Why?

The rock layers show no signs of erosion between layers. Why?

There is no time between rock layers for slow deposition. Why?

There is not enough erosion of continental plates for an old earth. Why?

Earth is not cooled enough for it to be old. Why?

Earth’s rotation rate is slowing for it to be old. Why?
Haeckel’s drawings were not accurate, yet his drawings are still used for evolution. Why the fraud?

Nebraska man was not a man. Why the fraud?

The Milken experiment is a disaster for evolutionists. Why the deception.

Beware of the old con “the building blocks of life”. Why the deception?

What was the first living thing made of? Was it DNA? Was it RNA? Was it just proteins? Was it some mix?

What was its code? How many codons was it? When did it come into being?

Where did it come into being? In space? In the atmosphere? In the ocean? In a tide pool?

In clay or mud? What protected it from UV rays? What was the composition of the atmosphere at that time?

If it was in water, how did the amino acids keep from being dissipated by the water?

What was the energy source for these reactions?

Where there any enzymes in it? Which ones? Certain required reactions need enzymes as catalysts. If not, the reaction may take a vast number of years. Surely the primitive thing could not last more than a minute much less than many years/

How did it survive? Where did the protective layer come from? What was the protected layer? How did that part get reproduced?

What was its food source? How did it remove waste? How did it repair itself?

Please explain how it was ever able to reproduce itself.

If the first living thing was just proteins, how did it ever get evolve to use RNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

If it was RNA based, how did it to ever evolve to use DNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

There should be millions of chains of missing links. All are missing. Why?

They should be finding missing links every day. Why not?

Please explain how anything that is irreducibly complex evolves.

Please explain how the eye came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how flight came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how blood clotting came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how the first multi cell creature came to be.

Please explain how the bone tissue came to be.

Please explain how the citrus cycle came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how ATP came to be and how the first creature that used it evolved that capability. The mechanism is irreducibly complex.

In fact, there are many things in living things that are irreducibly complex. Please explain how any of them evolved.

The science seems to have identified mitochondrial Eve and the recent origin of x chromosome Adam. This matches recent creation and destroys evolution. Why?

Short lived comets are a problem for long ages of the universe. Why?
Where are all the remains of all the people that have died? Where are all their artifacts? If mankind has been around for 100,000 years, there must be a lot more than has been found. Why?

What is your explanation for the above listed questions?

 

[Subduction Zone]

They fail only in your philosophy and intuition. You have not demonstrated otherwise.

No, I can show how they fail. If you won't let yourself understand that is your flaw.

 

[Subduction Zone]

How is the abstract intellectual capacity demonstrated to be from a neural network? Have you detected all this? What about identity self, and the contents of consciousness.

A valid question. By forming hypotheses and testing them we can find evidence that intellectual capacity comes from a neural network.

Now your turn: How can you support your beliefs?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

No. Just try any but I may critique your answers.

So far, you just seem to deny the answers that others are providing by providing repeated declarations of victory. Do you think that is what critiquing means? Where did you learn that?

But of course, to keep your theory you will have to answer all and that is just a small subset.

I'll just say it again. No one has to address your list. YOU do.

Yours is a rather outdated tactic and nothing that many have not seen used and fail many times before.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

So the whole range is just already proven false.

There is dino tissue that is not C-14 dead. The same with coal, diamonds and other things.
That proofs that the evolutionist timeline is false.
The worldwide flood made a mess of C-14 dating.

How do you explain the Cambrian explosion?

Why are there living fossils?

How does one explain polystrate trees?

How does one explain soft tissue and blood vessels in dinosaur tissue?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue with DNA and other biomolecules still being intact?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue, and diamonds that are not C-14 dead?

Why is there too much C-14 in some samples of coal and fossilized wood?

How do you explain parentless polonium 210 radiohaloes in granites?

How do you explain elliptical polonium 210 halos in the same strata with circular halos?

There is a great deception in some of the ages that are quoted by evolutionists. Why the deception?

There are inconsistencies in the radioactive dating results of many things. So isochron dating has been used. But even then, there are many large discrepancies. Why?

The inconsistencies in the dating of things and in all “clocks” used to set the age of things can be simply explained if some miraculous events occurred. These would be 6-day creation, the fall of man and the curse on creation and the worldwide flood about 4500 years ago.

What is the recipe for primordial soup, and can I buy a can of it?

There is a lack of a 50-50 racemization of amino acids in fossils. Why?

There are discontinuous fossil sequences in the fossil record. Why?

Oil, coal, and opals can be formed rapidly under certain conditions. Why the deception?

The evidence is that the coal beads and fossilized wood were formed rapidly. Why?

There are missing layers representing millions of years. Why?

Why are there ephemeral markings at the boundaries of layers? That shows rapid deposit.

If intelligent man was around for 100,000 years or so, why did he not figure out how to drop a seed in the ground and farm?

History is too short. Why?

The Great Barrier reef is only 4200 years old; the oldest tree is only 4300 years old. Why?

The age of the Sahara Desert is only 4000 years old. Why?



There is too much helium in radioactive rocks. Why?

There is helium in old zircon crystals. Why?

Thick sedimentary rock layers bent beyond the fracturing point, yet not fractured. Why?

The Mississippi river delta and deltas around the world show the result of one large flood like the worldwide flood. Why?

The arms of spiral galaxies should no longer exist, but they do. Why?

There is not enough helium in the earth’s atmosphere to support an old atmosphere. Why?

There is not enough sediment at the bottom of the sea to support an old earth. Why?

High speed objects in globular clusters show that they are young. Why?

Living fossils invalidate not only the age and origin of the sedimentary rock but refute evolution over eons.

The natural direction of life is degeneration not evolution.

The genetic load in all creatures means they would have ceased to exist after so much time. They have not. Why?

The DNA, RNA, and proteins with some of these being enzymes is a triply interconnected irreducibly complex system. Evolution could not be the mechanism to produce these.
There are depictions of dinosaurs from ancient cultures. Why?

Job 40:15-19 describes a plant eating dinosaur, probably Brachiosaurus. Why?

Almost all ancient cultures have a record of a worldwide blood and a remnant saved on a great boat, sometimes 8 people. How do explain that?

All population growth statistics invalidate mankind being around for more than 6000 years old but match only 8 people being saved in the ark. This matches the world at the time of Christ and today.

It does not seem that there is enough force for the Indian sub-continent to have crashed into Asia and raised the Himalayan Mountain range with just plate tectonics. Why?



The dim young sun paradox invalidates long ages for the sun, evolution, and life on the earth.

The rate of recession of the moon from the earth limits the age of the moon.

The rapid decline of the Earth’s magnetic strength limits the age of the earth. Why?

The salt content of the oceans is too low for an old earth. Why?

The concentration of various minerals in the ocean limits the age of the oceans. Why?

The rock layers show no signs of erosion between layers. Why?

There is no time between rock layers for slow deposition. Why?

There is not enough erosion of continental plates for an old earth. Why?

Earth is not cooled enough for it to be old. Why?

Earth’s rotation rate is slowing for it to be old. Why?
Haeckel’s drawings were not accurate, yet his drawings are still used for evolution. Why the fraud?

Nebraska man was not a man. Why the fraud?

The Milken experiment is a disaster for evolutionists. Why the deception.

Beware of the old con “the building blocks of life”. Why the deception?

It's evident to me, and I'm sure to others as well, that your beliefs have rendered you quite ignorant of science, but you're adept at posting Gish gallop.