The first living thing could not have come into being by random chance, therefore, God Almighty created all things. Just 1 proof.

[Subduction Zone]

Of course without God there is no universe, no 4 fundamental forces, no energy, no matter and no living things.

You need to prove that claim. And you have never done so.

Did you forget that you bailed out on the explanation of why you lost the induction argument? Poof!!! Gone. Where did you go?

 

[Trailblazer]

Very poor evidence. There is no scientific evidence and we are having a discussion about the sciences here. So in that context there is no evidence for God.

Of course there is no scientific evidence of God.

 

[Trailblazer]

Of course without God there is no universe, no 4 fundamental forces, no energy, no matter and no living things.

That is what we believers believe but there is no proof, or even evidence.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

That is what we believers believe but there is no proof, or even evidence.

Already proven

 

[Trailblazer]

Already proven

The existence of God can never be proven, so obviously 'without God there is no universe' has not been proven.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

The existence of God can never be proven, so obviously 'without God there is no universe' has not been proven.

already did it

 

[Trailblazer]

already did it

Nobody has ever proven that God exists. That is why the Bible calls us to have faith. If God could be proven to exist, there would be no need for faith.

Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who approaches Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Nobody has ever proven that God exists. That is why the Bible calls us to have faith. If God could be proven to exist, there would be no need for faith.

Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who approaches Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him.

and yet God believes that His existence is so for sure that all are without excuse by denying it.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Romans 1:18-22

 

[Trailblazer]

and yet God believes that His existence is so for sure that all are without excuse by denying it.

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Romans 1:18-22

That is only what you interpret those verses to mean.
As is so often the case with the Bible, those verses are contradicted by other verses that say we need faith. If God's existence was for sure nobody would need faith.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

That is only what you interpret those verses to mean.
As is so often the case with the Bible, those verses are contradicted by other verses that say we need faith. If God's existence was for sure nobody would need faith.

Just read Romans 1.

 

[Trailblazer]

Just read Romans 1.

There are two contradictions in this chapter alone.

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

If the invisible things were clearly seen, nobody would have to live by faith because they would have knowledge.

 

[McBell]

So abiogenesis is happening right now?

Your inability to understand the difference between abiogenesis and evolution is something you should really work on if you want to be taken seriously.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

There are two contradictions in this chapter alone.

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

If the invisible things were clearly seen, nobody would have to live by faith because they would have knowledge.

It is amazing that those who do not know the scripture try to use the scripture.

Faith is in the gospel of Christ for salvation.

And the Bible says that the unsaved do not know much about what the Bible says spiritually.

 

[McBell]

And what created all these? God.

Prove it.
No Assumptions Allowed.

 

[McBell]

Actually already proved it many times
Evolution is just a false religion.

Nope.
You have not proven anything of the sort.
But you have bore false witness quite a lot.

 

[McBell]

Of course without God there is no universe, no 4 fundamental forces, no energy, no matter and no living things.

Bold empty claim based on assumption

 

[McBell]

It is amazing that those who do not know the scripture try to use the scripture.

Faith is in the gospel of Christ for salvation.

And the Bible says that the unsaved do not know much about what the Bible says spiritually.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

Bold empty claim based on assumption

When you have a sober answer please post it. But it has to be more than it happened because it had to have happened else evolution is false.

 

[McBell]

When you have a sober answer please post it. But it has to be more than it happened because it had to have happened else evolution is false.

more bold empty claims with even more bearing false witness.

 

[SavedByTheLord]

more bold empty claims with even more bearing false witness.

stop the false accusations.

Where did the universe come from?

If the explanation is the Bing Bang with or without inflation, what was there before that?

If there was nothing before the Big Bang, then that breaks cause and effect.

It also violates every law of conservation too.