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The first verse of the Bible contains:

Onoma

Active Member
Right, so this is not obvious until we bring the natural numbers into the discussion

N = { 1, 2, 3, 4, ...}

If we were going to assign a rank number to each digit in Pi, we'd use the natural numbers

Now for a person who knows math, this is rather trivial, but let me explain for the people who are not good at math, or who have forgotten what they learned in school, using a simple example

If you had 10 objects, you would use the numbers 1 through 10 to give them " rank " or " order " in the set of objects


It's simple and easy to understand

So, this is where the dreaded " number of the beast { 666 ] comes in " { LINKS underlined }

Mind you these numbers 666 { and 144,000 } are from an ancient system of
mathematical astronomy in Mesopotamian metrology that come from a system of eclipse predictions for the Three-Body System, which itself is based on the Saros cycle of eclipses that the Greek Antikythera mechanism was used to predict and that the number 2701 makes an appearance in Plato's Republic, as his " entire geometrical number "{ as it is used for astronomy calculations } just so you understand there are extra-biblical sources for these numbers

I'll give you fair warning though, what I am about to start showing you is incredibly complex, and it's going to require being broken into many small bites

When I say " incredibly complex ", I mean that even if you had a PHD in math, it would still make your head spin, we'll go nice and slow

This has all been forgotten for thousands of years and you are the first too see it again

You can't " Google it ", because I'm the only person who knows it

So, by using the natural numbers N = { 1 ,2 , 3, 4,...} to assign a rank to the digits of Pi { after the decimal to be specific } where do you think this puts the value of the first verse of the Bible, and what does this have to do with Mesopotamian metrology and the " number of the beast { 666 }" ?

3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701


Here is a search engine that lets you look in the digits of pi for an arbitrary string of digits { mathematically referred to as a " term " }

Let me give you some time to see if you can work it out
 

Onoma

Active Member
In the meantime, here's a fun little mathematical puzzle for you that is related to the answer of the question asked in the last post

What are the only four consecutive three digit terms on the number line that when added will sum to 666 ?

1-10_41660_md.gif


This is a simple summation, it should be easy

It's also a nice practical example of the mathematical problems a child in Mesopotamia would have learned as an introduction to mathematics
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
The mathematical value of the first verse of the Bible found in Pi is significant
What system are you using to compute the value? I got 2701 also, but only when I used the absolute Hapanim system. When I used the
מספר גדול system, I got a different value. How did you decide which system to use?

What's spooky is that I found that 2701 is also the value of the line
אלו רוצות אורגיה זאתי רוצה כסף ההיא רוצה רק לדבר
and
וּבַחֹדֶשׁ, הַשֵּׁנִי, בְּשִׁבְעָה וְעֶשְׂרִים יוֹם, לַחֹדֶשׁ


spooky -- right?
 

Onoma

Active Member
Using standard gematria

Why ?

Because the three base set itself is based on knowledge of the repunit set

{ 111,222,333,444,555,666,777,888,999 }

and their locations in Pi

" repunit " or " repdigit " is a term like 666 that has repeating digits { there are several notations used, but they are quite uncommon }

In other words:

The total sum of the three base set used for the the 22 letters of the alphabet + the sofit { final forms } of the 5 letters is equivalent to the sum of the repunit set

{ 111,222,333,444,555,666,777,888,999 } = { 1 + 2 + 3,... } + { 10 +20 + 30,... } + { 100 + 200 + 300 }

It is in fact the knowledge of the location of these repdigits in Pi that provided the partial basis for Assyrian-Babylonian gematria

There are only 2 types of valid gematria, and they are both based on set theory { Standard and ordinal }
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
By they way, I have my birthdate within the first 500,000 digits of Pi. It occurs some 200 times in the first 200,000,000 digits. And 8 of my SSN digits occurs within the first 2 million digits, and then some 15 times in the next 100 million or so.

My first name occurs 200 times within 200 M as well, and my middle name 4 times.


Wow, you're a mathematical enigma just like Gen. 1:1! :D
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Wow, you're a mathematical enigma just like Gen. 1:1! :D
Actually, what's really freaky. The number 73 (from 2701=73x37). Add 66 to it. Multiply with 6x3 (for three 6s). Add the sum of my name.

What do you get?

2701...

Take 37. Subtract 2 and 6 (the missing six from 66 above). Multiply that with 100. Subtract the sum of my name.

What do you get?

2701...
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
In the meantime, here's a fun little mathematical puzzle for you that is related to the answer of the question asked in the last post

What are the only four consecutive three digit terms on the number line that when added will sum to 666 ?

1-10_41660_md.gif


This is a simple summation, it should be easy

It's also a nice practical example of the mathematical problems a child in Mesopotamia would have learned as an introduction to mathematics
165,166,167,168?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
What system are you using to compute the value? I got 2701 also, but only when I used the absolute Hapanim system. When I used the
מספר גדול system, I got a different value. How did you decide which system to use?

What's spooky is that I found that 2701 is also the value of the line
אלו רוצות אורגיה זאתי רוצה כסף ההיא רוצה רק לדבר
and
וּבַחֹדֶשׁ, הַשֵּׁנִי, בְּשִׁבְעָה וְעֶשְׂרִים יוֹם, לַחֹדֶשׁ


spooky -- right?

And I found that 2701 is also the value of Donald Duck's dialog on the opening page of the "Merry Christmas Unca Donald" edition of the January, 1941 issue of Walt Disney's Comics.

Spooky, hell. This is getting downright scary


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rosends

Well-Known Member
Using standard gematria

Why ?

Because the three base set itself is based on knowledge of the repunit set

{ 111,222,333,444,555,666,777,888,999 }

and their locations in Pi

" repunit " or " repdigit " is a term like 666 that has repeating digits { there are several notations used, but they are quite uncommon }

In other words:

The total sum of the three base set used for the the 22 letters of the alphabet + the sofit { final forms } of the 5 letters is equivalent to the sum of the repunit set

{ 111,222,333,444,555,666,777,888,999 } = { 1 + 2 + 3,... } + { 10 +20 + 30,... } + { 100 + 200 + 300 }

It is in fact the knowledge of the location of these repdigits in Pi that provided the partial basis for Assyrian-Babylonian gematria

There are only 2 types of valid gematria, and they are both based on set theory { Standard and ordinal }
You just contradicted yourself. You know that, right? You usd the standard gematria, not the mispar gadol, but you wrote of the final forms which have no special values in the standard gematria. So IOW, you relied on the mispar gadol to prove why you didn't use the mispar gadol. Then you listed "2 types of valid gematria" and didn't include mispar gadol which is what you just used.

It is enough to make a PhD's head spin.
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Also, if you take 666 and subtract the sum of my full name multiplied by three, and divide the result with three, you get 23. The number 23 is related to the 23 enigma that everything can be calculated to 23. There's even a movie about it, I think... Oh, gosh.

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I think I've given enough evidence to prove that I'm the antichrist, so... everyone, bow down to me!!! Muahahaha!
 
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First Baseman

Retired athlete
Actually, what's really freaky. The number 73 (from 2701=73x37). Add 66 to it. Multiply with 6x3 (for three 6s). Add the sum of my name.

What do you get?

2701...

Take 37. Subtract 2 and 6 (the missing six from 66 above). Multiply that with 100. Subtract the sum of my name.

What do you get?

2701...

You sure you're from this universe? ;)
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It's a given that atheists don't believe in a deity. It's not a given that scientists who promote the Big Bang, evolution and abiogenesis are atheists.
Correct, and a poll taken maybe about two decades ago of Christian theologians and pastors found that most of them don't have a problem with evolution or the BB as long as it's understood that God was behind it all. The RCC, for example, does not have a problem with either the BB or the basic ToE.
 

Onoma

Active Member
Well,looks like nobody got it

Trust me, the responses I'm seeing are the usual

They come from people with no training in math, mathematical astronomy in Mesopotamia, ancient languages, etc, so it's not uncommon to see them

Now I'm going to continue
 
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