Sure, since I had a day to use the gift at no charge.
But I do not. I gave you the gift.
So, was that a gift if I take it back when I want?
Ciao
- viole
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Sure, since I had a day to use the gift at no charge.
But I do not. I gave you the gift.
So, was that a gift if I take it back when I want?
Ciao
- viole
Did you say; Here is a gift for you to keep forever?
Is that what he wanted to do, punish?Success depends on the goal.
If he wanted to punish.. the flood was an A1 success.. gold medal effort.
I believe I fail to see what you think is short sighted.
This only means that the flood was still an utter failure.I believe the same people that died returned.
My question "How are we doing?" Referred to "we" as the human race. You answered according to your POV.And you think that people who think of themselves are not doing well?
Which is puzzling. If you think the world is full of them, why would you ask anyone how she is doing? That seems pointless.
By the way, I was thinking of my car. Which is quite new and probably does not go to heaven when it is bombed.
Ciao
- viole
Well, yes. It is implicit. Because a gift is such that it belongs to the receiver. Otherwise, it would not be a gift. It would be a loan.
When you give a gift, do you warn that it might be taken back at any time?
Ciao
- viole
My question "How are we doing?" Referred to "we" as the human race. You answered according to your POV.
Perhaps you simply misunderstood.
You seem to confuse punishment with consequence,Is that what he wanted to do, punish?
Nope, don't see any intent to punish at all. Only to destroy. Things is, punishment
pun·ish·ment
(pŭn′ĭsh-mənt)n.
1. The imposition of a penalty or deprivation for wrongdoing:
is only meted out where the person being punished can understand its reason, or at least others who are not being punished can comprehend the reason. Think all the people around the world knew why they were being killed by the flood? How about all the innocent children and the birds of the air? Did they merit punishment? Nope. God simply wanted them all off the face of the planet. .
I think it didn't.I think it may have reinforced morality for a period of time, although not permanently.
I see your point but i was also raised in a human environment where people snub their noses at a loan. God however, or the Son of God anyway. Didn't care around a lot of extra baggage. Even said it was better to simply have what you need when you need it. So there's something to be learned there.
Isn't punishment a form of consequence? Sure it is.You seem to confuse punishment with consequence,
Who cares what you think?I think it didn't.
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Are you saying that we should have been created as obedient puppets? One consequence of our free will is the possibility of rebellion.
Perhaps God's bold strokes: the flood, the confusion of language, etc. are acts designed to advance the outworking of his purpose, the promise he made to Adam and Eve before they sinned and which he reaffirmed at Genesis 3:15.
That purpose, restated often throughout the Bible is for humans to live forever on this earth free from war and crime and sickness and death. Even those who have lived and died will receive their opportunity. See John 5: 28,29.
So, was the flood failure? It certainly was a consequence of man's failure to set his own standards.
God however, or the Son of God anyway? What do you mean? I thought the son of God is God, too.
So, it is a loan, after all.
Ciao
- viole
Consider what was involved in the rebellion. By eating the fruit, Adam and Eve chose to set their own standards of good and bad. Jeremiah 10:23 rightly reminds us of our deficiency.Oh, ok, I misread.
So, do you think we are doing bad? And this is because we rebelled?
Ciao
- viole
Of course.Isn't punishment a form of consequence? Sure it is.
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Well, you replied to my post so I think the answer is obvious: You do. Thank you for caring.Who cares what you think?