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The FLOOD, God's Great Failure?

viole

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Kemosloby said:
God the Father and the Son of God are two different beings. It's a gift, since this life is like a seed, then we die and get planted in the ground, and get a new body at the resurrection that never dies.
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So, different beings with different baggages concerning loans. Ok. I have a friend with similar problems in her family. So, that is plausible.

I hate to hit on you on account of being against the death penalty, like me, but I need to know.

So, for you death is a no issue, because no matter what, we will live forever in a new body. As I side note, I hope I will not look like Mariah Carey in my new bod, but that might not be so important. I would hate it to be frowned upon my fake breasts in Heaven, but I am digressing...

Is that so? Is death really so unimportant?

Ciao

- viole
 
RedDragon94

RedDragon94

Love everyone, meditate often
Skwim said:
I only post the following in light of the contention that god is infallible and can do no wrong.

Genesis 6:5-7 (NKJV)
5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have
created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.”
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Now if anyone sees the flood as a success please point it out.

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What's the point of this?
 
viole

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
neologist said:
Consider what was involved in the rebellion. By eating the fruit, Adam and Eve chose to set their own standards of good and bad. Jeremiah 10:23 rightly reminds us of our deficiency.

In 6000 +/- years we have affirmed Jeremiah's observation
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How could Adam and Eve know that rebellion is bad, per se?

Ciao

- viole
 
Kemosloby

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
viole said:
So, different beings with different baggages concerning loans. Ok. I have a friend with similar problems in her family. So, that is plausible.

I hate to hit on you on account of being against the death penalty, like me, but I need to know.

So, for you death is a no issue, because no matter what, we will live forever in a new body. As I side note, I hope I will not look like Mariah Carey in my new bod, but that might not be so important. I would hate it to be frowned upon my fake breasts in Heaven, but I am digressing...

Is that so? Is death really so unimportant?

Ciao

- viole
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I didn't say i was against the death penalty, but I am definitely against fake breasts in heaven. I suspect it's bark is worse than its bite, but I don't know for sure. I suppose if your rewards are great in heaven death won't have any sting at all.
 
viole

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
neologist said:
Well, it could be they were told the consequence would be death.
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Yeah, but how could they know it was bad, per se?

After all it was the serpent word against God's word. And honestly, I would take talking serpents quite seriously.

What would you have done? Considering that you had no clue about good and evil.

Ciao

- viole
 
Kenny

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
TheMusicTheory said:
This is one of those things that make it so obvious that the god of the Old Testament and the god of the New Testament are two completely different characters. The OT god is a petty, spiteful and vengeful being. The NT god is, while not the exact opposite, of a totally different temper. This makes sense when you realize that the OT god was taken and given a new set of characteristics in order to "fit" into the new narrative of a new created religion. Build on the older stories to create your own.
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I don't agree

Remember, too, that the OT freely acknowledges the existence of other gods in the ancient world in several passages (Deut. 10:17, Exodus 12:12 as examples), and that it simply makes the claim that the Jewish god is the superior one.
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you are too much of a literalist..

You can make yourself a god too but the real interpretation of what He was saying was Deut: 37:17 They sacrificed to false gods, which are not God— gods they had not known, gods that recently appeared, gods your ancestors did not fear.

The flood story is the penultimate example of the fallibility of the Abrahamic god (the ultimate being the creation story itself, in which this god creates a species, man, that he knows will defy him because he has not taught man not to do that and then gets mad at them for doing the thing he knew they were going to do). It's a kid flooding his ant farm because they do something he doesn't like. If all the stories of the Abrahamic god are to be believed, then he is essentially a child that will throw a tantrum at the drop of a pin. I am reminded of the Twilight Zone episode "It's a Good Life", where a child banished people to "the cornfield" for thinking thoughts he doesn't like.
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OK... we can agree to disagree.
 
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