Coal beds where formed by enormous qauntities of dead vegetation, being subject to heavy pressure. Many scientist are of the view that only a process of immense magnitude and world wide effect could account for the coal seams. (flood?)
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The flood
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Coal beds where formed by enormous qauntities of dead vegetation, being subject to heavy pressure. Many scientist are of the view that only a process of immense magnitude and world wide effect could account for the coal seams. (flood?)
AntEmpire
Active Member
I agree that the stories are fiction. I was just pointing out that these myths have origins that start out real and become more fantastic over the centuries, different cultures borrowing from each other, and trying to one-up with who had the more powerful creator god.
So in other words there was no rhymne or reason to what you said - it was totally and utterly devoid of meaning and sense. As I suspected, thanks for the explaination.
McBell
Unbound
He was in a vessel with 1.4 million cubits of capacity packed with animals and plants/trees/ flora/fauna. Plants giving off oxygen of course and I'm sure the rising water level somehow compensated or offset the high attitudinal effect.
Men can breathe on Mt Everest unassisted can't they? I believe they can even climb to the summit unassisted?
Noah was an incompetant moron. Just like the Mormon Joe Smith could never have without god helping him written the BoM is explanation enough for how Noah gathered Every animal from penguin to Tasmanian devil and put them on a single ark by twos prior to the flood.
That is... God helped.
How dare you doubt the power of Yhwh? He may be a new god but he is powerful... really! :run:
No! You misinterpreted the to evidence. As per!
AntEmpire
Active Member
err, no, the person i was took what i said to mean all of genesis is to be literally interpreted. Which would mean that Adam and Eve hid from god in the garden.
Wow, more of the same. Are you embibing on the peace pipe brother? No offense intented but you're not making any sense to me at all. Perhaps it's a the language barrier.
I was talking to you about hunting remember? I said there was no hunting in the garden of Eden, and you answered that with "Ah but Adam and Eve hid from God? What do you mean by this exactly? How does this relate to hunting in the Garden of Eden?
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AntEmpire
Active Member
There was no hunting mentioned in the bible, well ok, cool. Is the bible a record of EVERYTHING that happened in eden? And is the Biblical record even an accurate account of reality?
If Genesis is to be taken literally. (also would apply to no hunting in eden) then a man hid from a super magical all seeing person in the sky.
dallas1125
Covert Operative
I cant figure whether I should be offended or not...
No its not a record of everything that happened in Eden, what is recorded is that prior to the curse - Adam and Eve and all beasts were herbivores IE no hunting. Your point about man hiding from a supernatural being who sees all, is my point to the poster whom I addressed my question to. If you can prove to me that the Bible is not an accurate account of reality I'll buy you a box of beer right now and drink 23 of them with you before you've finished one.
David M
Well-Known Member
Coal beds were formed at different times and in different places during the history of the planet when large volumes of dead vegetation were buried by sediment and slowly turned into coal. That process operates now and operated in the past.
It is not a problem for uniformitarianism.
A vastly larger number of scientists accept that this observable process is the explanation for coal.
DeistPrimate
Member
I honestly don't think anyone could prove anything to you irregardless of how obvious or well founded it is.
DeistPrimate
Member
There certainly are not "many" scientists who would agree a flood can cause the formation of coal, that's just idiotic.
Coal deposits lie in between layers of rock the formation process of which modern geology completely understands. It takes hundreds of thousands of years for sediment to form into rock and fossils, coal and oil are embedded inside these rock layers.
How did the topsoil layer across the Northern Hemisphere remain intact through a world wide deluge of sea salt water? If all the incoming water was fresh how did the oceans regain their salinity and how did marine life survive this? In reality the topsoil was laid out by freshwater glaciers.
Has anyone asked yet how the Australian marsupials got from Australia to the ark then got back home again? Modern geology explains completely the existence of the Australian marsupials but one has to accept the movement of continents across deep time and evolution.
AntEmpire
Active Member
In reality are there any gods besides the god of the bible?
I dont know what your preception of reality is, so I can't answer that question. My God is reality. What's your reality? Your religion seems to reveal you've got a foot in each camp. You must be pretty good at the splits! And a triped
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One has to accept a lot in order to accept what you believe doesn't one? Even when it's completely unaccpteable. To me thats idiotic. As is your statement that not a many scientists accept that evidence aligns with the flood story. People like me wouldnt be in this thread if there where not many scientists who believe it and have actually shown convincingly that the evidence stacks up.
Coal beds are not observed to be forming today, which is why you have to invent the "Billions" of years falacy to make the unobservable accpetable.
If one accepts that the land mass on the earth was once connected by land bridges then one can accept that the Roo's, quite happliy bounced into the ark with out an issue.
However what you are asking me to "accept" is as equally insane as me asking you to accept that a giant teradactile transported the roo's to the ark.
outhouse
Atheistically
the jewish flood never happened, it is as fiction as it gets.
it was stolen from the sumarians and modeled to meet the jewish god and the rest of the fables of genesis
there has never been any proof for the flood and there never will be except the real flood on a known river told in the sumarian version.
it was stolen from the sumarians and modeled to meet the jewish god and the rest of the fables of genesis
there has never been any proof for the flood and there never will be except the real flood on a known river told in the sumarian version.
DeistPrimate
Member
Just reality as opposed to the contents of an old book written by my fellow ignorant men.
I wouldn't want to get into a fallacy of appeal to authority fest but for every so-called "scientist" you could cite who thinks geology supports a world wide fossil, coal and oil making flood I can cite thousands working in the pertinent fields who say otherwise. You've already convinced yourself nothing countering biblical literalism can be true so it wouldn't matter to you how the evidence stacks up in reality.
We know how coal beds form; same with oil fields....power companies employ geologists to tell them where the most likely places are for finding fossil fuels, they point them towards areas where they knew vast vegetation areas lay for long periods of time. Floods do NOT cause fossil fuels to form and they in any event do not form only in a few thousand years.
We now know the continents sit on tectonic plates which float on magma moving about the Earth slowly (their speeds away or towards each other are a matter of measured record). The world wide flood advocates I've read (Morris, Brown) claim the flood itself split the continents apart and created all the modern topography we are familiar with. So even if the Australian marsupials could walk to the ark beforehand apparently the continents would have zoomed away (before magically slowing back down) so they couldn't walk back home. In any even Australia hasn't been connected to S. America in more than a couple hundred million years.
We know how all the modern topographies formed...
"Africa has been slowly colliding with Europe for millions of years, Scotese said. "Italy, Greece and almost everything in the Mediterranean is part of (the African plate), and it has been colliding with Europe for the last 40 million years."
That collision has pushed up the Alps and the Pyrenees mountains, and is responsible for earthquakes that occasionally strike Greece and Turkey, Scotese noted." Continents in Collision: Pangea Ultima - NASA Science
And we know there was no "land bridge" between Australia and ANYWHERE. If there were it's remnants would be findable on the Pacific floor just as those of the Bering Strait between N. America and Asia are today.
I assume you mean pterodactyl, I guess they missed the boat...eh?