Trailblazer
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Neither does not mean both.So, it's BOTH then? Okay.
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Neither does not mean both.So, it's BOTH then? Okay.
Who died and made YOU God?
Show me in your bible where Jesus forbids abortions.
The problem is that most people do not consider the evidence to be evidence.
But what most people believe about the evidence does not prove anything.
Argumentum ad populum
In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition is true because many or most people believe it: "If many believe so, it is so." Argumentum ad populum - Wikipedia
The converse of this is that if many or most people do not believe it, it cannot be so, and that is fallacious. For example, there was a time in history when most people did not believe the earth was round, but most people were wrong, as we found out later.
I do not have to prove anything to anyone...Prove it.
Better yet? Prove that Benevolent Garden Pixies are NOT directly responsible for All Human Progress--
-- because I have it on Good Authority™ that no human ever got Inspired to think of a Good Idea, but what a Garden Pixie sat on his or her shoulder, and whispered Good Things into their subconscious.
Whichever "proof" you use to show Garden Pixies are myth? I'll apply with Equal Logic to your god-claims
That does not fly since many atheists and agnostics want to know.I do not have to prove anything to anyone...
People need to prove it to themselves if they want to know.
There are no victims, just people who have a victim mentality.Blame The Victim.
She was assaulted, because she Foolishly Did Not Carry A Personal Atomic Hand Grenade, and was therefore Asking for It.
Right?
Same stuff, second day...
Thanks. I saved that link and will try to look into it as soon as I have time.I appreciate your effort and I will check them out. Here are some excellent books I strongly urge you to read. https://www.amazon.com/Michael-Newton/e/B000APC05I?ref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
Yes, that is more accurate. I believe it.I think you mean "I believe the coming of Baha'u'llah released the Holy Spirit into the world...". If you phrase it as a fact you are required to provide evidence that shows beyond reasonable doubt that it actually happened.
Obviously they are beliefs. I do not have to type "I believe" in front of everything I believe.Please stop making statements as if you are providing facts when all you are providing are beliefs and opinions.
Then we can just assume everything you say is a belief or an opinion unless you specifically state it's a fact and provide sufficient evidence. That's easier. Same for me of course.Obviously they are beliefs. I do not have to type "I believe" in front of everything I believe.
All statements are belief. Facts are of another breed.Then we can just assume everything you say is a belief or an opinion unless you specifically state it's a fact and provide sufficient evidence. That's easier. Same for me of course.
What is reliable is very subjective so what is not reliable to you is reliable to me.It may be 'evidence' but it is is not reliable evidence. That is why many people do not consider it to be evidence. By that standard there is plenty of evidence against the existence of a god too. It is best to admit that your belief is based upon faith.
And they want me to prove it to them?That does not fly since many atheists and agnostics want to know.
That works. Anything related to God or Messengers of God is a belief since it cannot be proven as a fact..Then we can just assume everything you say is a belief or an opinion unless you specifically state it's a fact and provide sufficient evidence. That's easier. Same for me of course.
God does not make mistakes because God is Infallible.
Humans think that God makes mistakes because humans are fallible.
This is logic 101 stuff.
Sure.That works. Anything related to God or Messengers of God is a belief since it cannot be proven as a fact..
There are facts that support the beliefs but they do not prove it, not to everyone.
Keep in mind that a belief can be either true or false.
If a belief is true it is concordant with reality in which case it does not matter if it can be proven as a fact.
Do you understand what I mean?
Is too!Hitchen's Razor: If you make a claim without evidence?
Nothing further than "is not" is sufficient.
What is reliable is very subjective so what is not reliable to you is reliable to me.
Why do so many consider the Bible reliable evidence?
I consider it evidence that God exists, but I do not consider it very reliable.
I do not know how you could have evidence against a God existing but I do know that there is evidence against a certain kind of God existing. The All-Loving God Christians believe in is a case in point. All the suffering in the world is evidence against such a God existing, but God could exist and be a different sort of fella.
My belief is based upon faith coupled with evidence because what cannot be proven with evidence must be taken on faith.
I do not even like God most of the time so why would I choose to believe in God if I had no evidence?
I am stuck with believing in God only because of the evidence just as you are stuck not believing in God because you see no evidence.
Is too!
..and what you shave with is irrelevant.. just asserting opinions dogmatically is what matters!
That works. Anything related to God or Messengers of God is a belief since it cannot be proven as a fact..
There are facts that support the beliefs but they do not prove it, not to everyone.
Keep in mind that a belief can be either true or false.
If a belief is true it is concordant with reality in which case it does not matter if it can be proven as a fact.
Do you understand what I mean?