LOL Atheism is lack of belief, agnosticism is lack of knowledge. And if you don't know that, you don't know the first thing about atheism or agnosticism.
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The Folly of Atheism
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Trailblazer
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It has NOTHING to do with how many people are Baha'is...
The coming of Baha'u'llah released the Holy Spirit into the world and that is responsible for all human progress.
Trailblazer
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God is not incompetent.
It is people who are incompetent at evidence investigation.
Why do so many claim the Truth, but their beliefs are contradictory and conflicting?
It's a very human thing.
An alien scientist from a different dimension. And now that I have proven you wrong would you like to retract your statement that there are only two possible explanations?
Skwim
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Bob the Unbeliever
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Gleanings is not a Bronze Age book, it is a new age book.
Straw man. I was not trying to use the book to prove my claims.
My pardon-- a "new age" book that is intimately based on a Bronze Age Book.
Same stuff, second day.
Then why did you quote a book I do not consider a reliable authority, if not to prove or argue your claim?
Bob the Unbeliever
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You keep using the word "evidence"-- but it does not mean what most people mean, when they say "evidence".
Do you see a problem, yet?
Bob the Unbeliever
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So, it's BOTH then? Okay.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
No-- the bible is evidence that Humans Wrote Stories. And that's about it.
It is certainly not evidence of anything supernatural.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Prove it.
Better yet? Prove that Benevolent Garden Pixies are NOT directly responsible for All Human Progress--
-- because I have it on Good Authority™ that no human ever got Inspired to think of a Good Idea, but what a Garden Pixie sat on his or her shoulder, and whispered Good Things into their subconscious.
Whichever "proof" you use to show Garden Pixies are myth? I'll apply with Equal Logic to your god-claims
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Blame The Victim.
She was assaulted, because she Foolishly Did Not Carry A Personal Atomic Hand Grenade, and was therefore Asking for It.
Right?
Same stuff, second day...
I appreciate your effort and I will check them out. Here are some excellent books I strongly urge you to read. https://www.amazon.com/Michael-Newton/e/B000APC05I?ref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share
I think you mean "I believe the coming of Baha'u'llah released the Holy Spirit into the world...". If you phrase it as a fact you are required to provide evidence that shows beyond reasonable doubt that it actually happened.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
He may not have been executed, even.
If crucified, he may have survived
But any which way, there was no proof that he resurrected.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
God does not make mistakes because God is Infallible.
Humans think that God makes mistakes because humans are fallible.
This is logic 101 stuff.
Please stop making statements as if you are providing facts when all you are providing are beliefs and opinions.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
It is not based upon the Bible. It is a separate Revelation from God.
It is not the same stuff.
I am not trying to prove anything.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
The problem is that most people do not consider the evidence to be evidence.
But what most people believe about the evidence does not prove anything.
Argumentum ad populum
In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition is true because many or most people believe it: "If many believe so, it is so." Argumentum ad populum - Wikipedia
The converse of this is that if many or most people do not believe it, it cannot be so, and that is fallacious. For example, there was a time in history when most people did not believe the earth was round, but most people were wrong, as we found out later.