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Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
Imagine actually believing that there is an All Powerful Cosmic Ruler of the Universe out there, who damns people to eternal torture because their parents didn't splash water on their face when they were babies.

Do you religious people ever take a step back to think this stuff through?

GOD: "Hey, that one never got the water-splashy thing when he was a baby. Damn him to hell"
St. Pete: "But God, when that baby grew up he cured cancer and brought world peace!"
GOD: "SHUT UP THOU SHALT DAMN WHO I SAY THOU SHALT DAMN!"
St. Pete: " *sigh* OK"
Stop that the bible says if any man speak let him speak as the oracles of God..and that was all your mouth..now we dont belive in baptizing babies they are already saved until they come into the knowledge of right and wrong than they can get baptized..the bible says REPENT & be baptized what repenting can a baby do? Jesus said he that believeth and is baptized.. Can a baby do any believing in God no..but when you come in the knowledge of good and evil you must be born of the water and spirit according to John 3:5 which is water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ & the baptism of the Holy Ghost accroding to acts 2:38 and acts 2:4
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
So what did Philip take that man down in acts 8:36-39 ? He baptized him in figuratism in the name of the Lord? You have to read that

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No, I am agreeing with you, baptism in Christ I said, meaning water baptism
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
So what did Philip take that man down in acts 8:36-39 ? He baptized him in figuratism in the name of the Lord? You have to read that

ber: 58922"]So what did Philip take that man down in acts 8:36-39 ? He baptized him in figuratism in the name of the Lord? You have to read that[/QUOTE]
No, I am agreeing with you, baptism in Christ I said, meaning water baptism
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
Stop that the bible says if any man speak let him speak as the oracles of God..and that was all your mouth..now we dont belive in baptizing babies they are already saved until they come into the knowledge of right and wrong than they can get baptized..the bible says REPENT & be baptized what repenting can a baby do? Jesus said he that believeth and is baptized.. Can a baby do any believing in God no..but when you come in the knowledge of good and evil you must be born of the water and spirit according to John 3:5 which is water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ & the baptism of the Holy Ghost accroding to acts 2:38 and acts 2:4

So if I don't get my babies face splashed, what happens?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
OK I'll tell you. John 3:5
Must kind of means you have to..and give me bible that water is figurative, thats your opinion not bible, what did philip take that person down in in Acts 8:36-39 ? Figurative water? No but real what so he can be born of the water according to John 3:5 and than the Spirit came
A person is not born of physical water. Peter will baptize anyone because it is accepting that person into the body of the Christ. It doesn't mean it will happen.
 

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
So if I don't get my babies face splashed, what happens?
I just got done saying a baby shouldnt get baptized fool..a baby cant repent or believe..but when they get of age to come jnto the knowledge of right and wrong good and evil than they have to get the water and spirit accroding to John 3:5 & Acts 2:38 but before that the baby is already saved as i had said
 

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
OK I'll tell you. John 3:5

A person is not born of physical water. Peter will baptize anyone because it is accepting that person into the body of the Christ. It doesn't mean it will happen.
Read that in the bible A person is not born by physical water.. I have bible that says you must be BORN of the WATER and you said you cant now read that for me in the bible..
 

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
OK. What if a person is baptized in water but not in Holy Spirit? Is it possible?
It can happen in either order the gentiles that peter met got the Holy Spirit first than after got baptized but usually the individual gets baptized in water first and than eventually Recieves the Holy Ghost if they seek it.. But you cant be saved one without the other..
 

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
Is it possible for a person to be dunked but never be baptized with The Holy Spirit?
Yes it is very possible..and is happened a plenty of times but to be save you have to have the Spirtit and there are ways to get it you have to seek God for it.. But the evidence you got it is speaking in other toungues as the Spirit gives utterance according to Acts 2:4
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It can happen in either order the gentiles that peter met got the Holy Spirit first than after got baptized but usually the individual gets baptized in water first and than eventually Recieves the Holy Ghost if they seek it.. But you cant be saved one without the other..
What about a person who is saved but dies before he can get to a body of water?
 

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
Just tell me your back-up scripture and I shall believe you.
John 3:5 Acts 2:38..they talk about water and spirit and unless the bible tells you its figurative or means anything else it doesnt we have to take what is written how it is written and cant add nor take away.. Peter said can any man forbid water? Acts 10:47 Jesus aint forbid water he preached water the apostles preached water John preached water and Spirit.. Those are my scriptures that we must be batised in water to be saved and we must be born of the water(physical) aswell as Spirit, now give me scripture that they didnt baptize in physical water which they did..
 

Isaiah Torres

I know Truth
You believe in magical splashing water and I'm the fool? LOL
No not splashing water you have to go completely under and come back up from the water like Jesus did & thats bible thats how we get remission of sins Acts 2:38 so you go ahead and none believe but Jesus said he that BELIEVETH and is BAPTIZED shall be SAVED and he that BELIEVETH NOT shall be DAMNED
 
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