Isaiah Torres
I know Truth
If you dont get the water your not completely saved yet.
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The fool has said
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Demonslayer
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Also, quite thirsty.
Why not explain to us fools how you know that there are degrees of salvation?
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
So what I said at the start was true. You believe a person can live a good life, commit no harm to others, do only good, believe in God and Jesus...but will still go to hell if he wasn't completely dunked under water.
And you call me the fool.
Isaiah Torres
I know Truth
Your not my brother, i can call you a fool..Jesus asked a question who is my brethren? Than late on he said for whosoever shall do the will of my Father in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother Matthew 12:48-50 and beliving that you dont have to be baptized in water in the name of Jesus Christ According to the Word of God in Acts 2:38 Acts 8:16 Acts 19:5 is not the will of the Father in heaven because he never said such things so your not my brother..but he that belived the bible and does the will of the Father and belives in water baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ the same is my brother sister and mother..Jesus called people fools too you know.
I am thinking of the scene. A desert trip with enough water to drink. And then a fellow traveler is saved! But they do not know if they will get out of the desert in time for the saved one to get baptized. Now he is worried that maybe he will end up in a place between being saved and not saved so he partitions the group for all the water in case it is enough to get under.
I knew you would say that! The last one though does not say brother. Does it?
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
Isaiah Torres
I know Truth
If you truly believe in God & Jesus your going to get baptized in water in the name of Jesus Christ like Gods word tell you to do.. Becasue the bible says hearers wont be justified but DOERS only
OK. If the person is the only one who is believing in his place (it is possible) can he baptize himself?
Isaiah Torres
I know Truth
It does say brother in that scripture
Demonslayer
Well-Known Member
In many churches, including all of the Catholic parishes when I was growing up, they didn't completely dunk the baby. They just splash some water on it's face.
I guess these people are going to hell on a technicality?
Do you know why?
No, it doesn't.
I knew you would say that! The last one though does not say brother. Does it?
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, [to his brother?]*'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
*No! You are adding to scripture.
What if a person is baptized with water and The Holy Spirit but then sins against God's Word? Is he still saved?
Isaiah Torres
I know Truth
Your not suppose to baptize babys there is only one baptism.. Ephesians 4:5 and thats when you repent and go down in water in the Name of Jesus Christ according to Acts 2:38 and a baby cant do no repenting to the people that "baptizing" babies are wrong and are they going to hell because of it? Ima just say this to answer it Luke 3:13
Isaiah Torres
I know Truth
Yes it does say that Matthew 12:48-50 kjv its says it and your not doing the will of the Father in heaven so thus you arent my brother fool & no if he sins after he is not saved until he repents for it and stops doing it because if you are truly born of God you cant sin and ther e is bible for that
See what you do not know is that today I might not be your brother but tomorrow I might be saved. THEN I am your brother. Get it?
Isaiah Torres
I know Truth
Yes than i will stop calling you a fool.. Get it? But until than your not my brother
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
To be baptised in water and not spirit? Sure.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Tongues are gone now.
A person who is baptized in water but not baptized in The Holy Spirit is not saved. Correct? Then..........water baptism does not save a person. Does baptism make a better person? Sometimes but not always.
Ester went through a ritual of cleaning and polishing before she was presented to the king. Did he choose her because she was clean and shiny? Of course not!