The Four Dirty Secrets Against Darwin Evolution

[Kenny]

Christianity is not among those hypothetical religions. All 41,000+ denominations are not only in conflict with each other but also with science.

That is somewhat exaggerated for convenience sake IMV. Not to mention that not all 41,000 are in conflict with each other.

So, because we have doctors that are pro Covid vaccinations and others that are against Covid vaccinations that the medical profession is against each other and all thousand branches of medical profession are in conflict with each other? (I just applied your same standard you applied to Christianity)

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Someone changed the subject somewhere from the Flood to King David.

The later may be anecdotal and exaggerated but it isn't impossible. Knowing science is being able to discern the impossible from the improbable.
When I read the Odyssey, I know that Circe may have existed but I also know that she didn't transform men into pigs (at least not literally).

I thought this was the "which is better, butter or margarine" thread.

It seems to be evolving.

 

[Kenny]

Star Wars says that we shouldn't fall for the Dark Side of The Force.
Lord of the Rings says that there is this One Ring to rull them all and that it's a bad thing.

I love the spiritual analogies that can be applied.

God has translated us from the "Dark Side" - to the light of the Kingdom of His dear son.

There is one Devil the god of this world his ring of authority that would love to rule us all but will be cast into the Lake of Fire...

just love it!

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I love the spiritual analogies that can be applied.

God has translated us from the "Dark Side" - to the light of the Kingdom of His dear son.

There is one Devil the god of this world his ring of authority that would love to rule us all but will be cast into the Lake of Fire...

just love it!

What you fail to realize is that story-telling is a very common way to spread messages and lessons concerning the human condition, our place in nature, our place in society, etc.

They need not be true to have a worthwhile lesson to learn or to communicate some ideas or wisdom about these subjects.
We find it in movies, in books, in mythology,...

But they are just stories. If you wish to argue that the Jedi really exist, then you're just missing the point.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I agree with your position on science. I would disagree with your understanding of faith. You use faith every day--you use it with intellectual honesty.

No, I don't. Not in the sense of "religious faith".

Have you gone to work with faith that they will not close the business before they pay you?

No.

That is honest faith with an intellectual component

No. It's a silly strawman at best.

So, can I assume you are on the side of the coin of non-belief?

I'm on the side that demands verifiable evidence for accepting claims.
And the more extra-ordinary the claims, the more solid that evidence needs to be.

It's not complicated.

 

[Kenny]

What you fail to realize is that story-telling is a very common way to spread messages and lessons concerning the human condition, our place in nature, our place in society, etc.

They need not be true to have a worthwhile lesson to learn or to communicate some ideas or wisdom about these subjects.
We find it in movies, in books, in mythology,...

But they are just stories. If you wish to argue that the Jedi really exist, then you're just missing the point.

I'm not sure why you think I fail to realize this. Jesus told a lot of stories to learn a worthwhile lesson... we call them parables. Thee are stories, however, that are called his-story or history which are real.

 

[Kenny]

No, I don't. Not in the sense of "religious faith".




No.



No. It's a silly strawman at best.



I'm on the side that demands verifiable evidence for accepting claims.
And the more extra-ordinary the claims, the more solid that evidence needs to be.

It's not complicated.

I don't find intellectual honesty in your replies

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I'm not sure why you think I fail to realize this. Jesus told a lot of stories to learn a worthwhile lesson... we call them parables. Thee are stories, however, that are called his-story or history which are real.

As I said.... missing the point.
It's the equivalent of saying that Star Wars gives us moral lessens and that the Jedi are real also.

Just gotta have "faith" to believe that part.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I don't find intellectual honesty in your replies

Because I don't agree with you?

Please point out specifically what you are having difficulty with or why you think it is dishonest.
Then I'll explain to you how it's not.

 

[Kenny]

As I said.... missing the point.
It's the equivalent of saying that Star Wars gives us moral lessens and that the Jedi are real also.

Just gotta have "faith" to believe that part.

No... it is a beautiful story that is depicting a spiritual truth. You can become the "light of the world" - if you leave the dark side

Matthew 5:14 Ye are the light of the world.

Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Come out of the darkside - a sermon I preached.

 

[Kenny]

Because I don't agree with you?

Please point out specifically what you are having difficulty with or why you think it is dishonest.
Then I'll explain to you how it's not.

No.. .because you said you never have gone to work with faith that they will pay you at the end of the week.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

No... it is a beautiful story that is depicting a spiritual truth. You can become the "light of the world" - if you leave the dark side

Matthew 5:14 Ye are the light of the world.

Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Come out of the darkside - a sermon I preached.

Still missing the point.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

No.. .because you said you never have gone to work with faith that they will pay you at the end of the week.

And I stand by that statement.

Why do you think it is dishonest?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Thank you for not prooving your point with facts. Daniel Boone has mythological stories... but there is one story that is true. The Bible is true.

I supported my claims with valid examples. You failed. I had already acknowledged that David was a king of Israel. You were supposed to demonstrate that the Bible was accurate beyond that.

And no, the Bible is far from true. We have far more recent claims that have been shown to be wrong. Which is a very serious problem for it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I agree with your position on science. I would disagree with your understanding of faith. You use faith every day--you use it with intellectual honesty.

Have you gone to work with faith that they will not close the business before they pay you? That is honest faith with an intellectual component

So, can I assume you are on the side of the coin of non-belief?

And now you are using an equivocation fallacy.

 

[Kenny]

Still missing the point.

LOL or missing mine?

 

[Kenny]

And I stand by that statement.

Why do you think it is dishonest?

Have you ever worked for someone on a promise that they would pay you?

 

[Subduction Zone]

LOL or missing mine?

Once again, when you have to use a logical fallacy you have no point.

 

[Kenny]

And now you are using an equivocation fallacy.

LOL yes... every time I hit the nail on the head... it is a fallacy.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Have you ever worked for someone on a promise that they would pay you?

Please stop.