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The Four Dirty Secrets Against Darwin Evolution

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
So again, there we go back to abiogenesis. At least it's not something from nothing...in the scientific mind.
No, that is about a billion years before that.

Do you think that it is possible for God to make a single celled organism? You have already told us that you believe that God is a liar.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Did you remember that, or did you look it up? Thanks either way. E flat major. I'm picturing it in my -- mind. Eb major. thanks.
I remember. I'm a great lover of music, with some training (never good enough on piana to be pro, but still...), and I'm well-versed in music theory. I also sang in HMS Pinafore, Pirates of Penzance and Iolanthe (that last most people don't know).
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I remember. I'm a great lover of music, with some training (never good enough on piana to be pro, but still...), and I'm well-versed in music theory. I also sang in HMS Pinafore, Pirates of Penzance and Iolanthe (that last most people don't know).
I'm learning all the time, not so much theory right now, although I studied it, but listening to music. I wonder sometimes why I like listening to some compositions more than others. I also think about the resurrection and all the possibilities there to explore.
P.S.you have a unique talent. I'd almost be jealous but I know God will bless his people with happiness.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I'm learning all the time, not so much theory right now, although I studied it, but listening to music. I wonder sometimes why I like listening to some compositions more than others. I also think about the resurrection and all the possibilities there to explore.
If you want to better understand why you like some compositions more than others, I can suggest nothing better than a series of lectures by Leonard Bernstein at Harvard University in 1973. During his year as visiting professor at Harvard University, Leonard Bernstein had various duties, such as being in residence and advising students, but historically the most significant of these was to deliver a series of lectures. This series comprised six lectures on music, which cumulatively took the title of a work by Charles Ives, The Unanswered Question. Bernstein drew analogies to other disciplines, such as poetry, aesthetics, and especially linguistics, hoping to make these lectures accessible to an audience with limited or no musical experience, while maintaining an intelligent level of discourse.

The real thing about these lectures is this: he talks about how music came to be so important to humans ("Whence Music"), the phonology and linguistics of music, and where it is going ("Whither Music"). It's amazing, but it is, after all, university level and almost 12 hours of listening. (I've listened to it about a dozen times -- so far.)

The series of six lectures (each over 1.5 hours) is available for free on Youtube at
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
If you want to better understand why you like some compositions more than others, I can suggest nothing better than a series of lectures by Leonard Bernstein at Harvard University in 1973. During his year as visiting professor at Harvard University, Leonard Bernstein had various duties, such as being in residence and advising students, but historically the most significant of these was to deliver a series of lectures. This series comprised six lectures on music, which cumulatively took the title of a work by Charles Ives, The Unanswered Question. Bernstein drew analogies to other disciplines, such as poetry, aesthetics, and especially linguistics, hoping to make these lectures accessible to an audience with limited or no musical experience, while maintaining an intelligent level of discourse.

The real thing about these lectures is this: he talks about how music came to be so important to humans ("Whence Music"), the phonology and linguistics of music, and where it is going ("Whither Music"). It's amazing, but it is, after all, university level and almost 12 hours of listening. (I've listened to it about a dozen times -- so far.)

The series of six lectures (each over 1.5 hours) is available for free on Youtube at
Thanks. One day I'll go there asap. I watched a video of him conducting West Side Story, a rehearsal of the music. I'm shaking my head here in amazement, so fabulous. I'm thinking that some compositions mesmerize me -- keep my interest -- while others I just skip over. Thanks for conversation, very enjoyable. Even though gorillas do not write music.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
If you want to better understand why you like some compositions more than others, I can suggest nothing better than a series of lectures by Leonard Bernstein at Harvard University in 1973. During his year as visiting professor at Harvard University, Leonard Bernstein had various duties, such as being in residence and advising students, but historically the most significant of these was to deliver a series of lectures. This series comprised six lectures on music, which cumulatively took the title of a work by Charles Ives, The Unanswered Question. Bernstein drew analogies to other disciplines, such as poetry, aesthetics, and especially linguistics, hoping to make these lectures accessible to an audience with limited or no musical experience, while maintaining an intelligent level of discourse.

The real thing about these lectures is this: he talks about how music came to be so important to humans ("Whence Music"), the phonology and linguistics of music, and where it is going ("Whither Music"). It's amazing, but it is, after all, university level and almost 12 hours of listening. (I've listened to it about a dozen times -- so far.)

The series of six lectures (each over 1.5 hours) is available for free on Youtube at
I listened to the beginning, quite interesting. I'd love listening to him. His attitude is very humble.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
E-flat Major.
P.S. I'm going to try and remember that. :) Eb major. Thanks! I looked up the score...and of course, you're right. Now the 1-3-5-8 sequence is rumming around in my head and the aria from Mozart's Magic Flute, Queen of the Night aria beginning is humming around in my head, key unknown to me right now, but the beginning sequence is the same...English -- "If by your hand, Sarostro will not perish..." (If by your hand...) :) Thanks, beautiful memories of gorgeous tunes.
I listened to more of Bernstein's talks at Harvard, find it interesting -- but -- maybe I'm not ready for it all now when he was discussing Chopin's Etudes. But of course he makes good points.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
Not sure what is meant there, but it sounds kind of interesting.
If you appreciate Gilbert and Sullivan beyond the musicality you would do well to read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. You will find great wisdom there including the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything.

As many of us here have obviously read it, will also give you a better understanding of our thought processes. :)
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
If you appreciate Gilbert and Sullivan beyond the musicality you would do well to read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. You will find great wisdom there including the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything.

As many of us here have obviously read it, will also give you a better understanding of our thought processes. :)
So much to read... I'll look into it though. Thanks. I am not sure I appreciate G&S beyond the musicality. Maybe only slightly but I never really thought about it. I know it was perhaps a commentary. That's what I thought when I saw pirates of Penzance. And I'm sure the Mikado has quite a bit to do with social conventions at the time. Didn't the emperor of Japan relinquish his godship after WW2? What a sad world we live in, glad I know what the Bible says about God's kingdom (Revelation 21:1-5)
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
If you appreciate Gilbert and Sullivan beyond the musicality you would do well to read The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. You will find great wisdom there including the answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything.

As many of us here have obviously read it, will also give you a better understanding of our thought processes. :)
Thought processes...ah see said a patient to Dr. Freud. The local library has it. I worked for a publishing company and met some famous authors. Nevertheless...:)
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Either summarize your own theories or not. I don't personally have 45 minutes to spend watching videos only to need to debunk them
I usually don't get detailed information about transformation within the theory except some to say, We think it happened this way (or that way). And then am fairly regularly called in a manner of speaking real stupid, dumb, mind controlled, etc and ignorant because I no longer take the theory or the current theory for granted and/or true. And chances are someone will say, well, that's science...new discoveries can change a thought. My reaction to that is that there is a Creator. A supreme being. "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Urey-Miller, that most esteemed experiment, did not show that something came from nothing anyway.
 

Astrophile

Active Member
I usually don't get detailed information about transformation within the theory except some to say, We think it happened this way (or that way). And then am fairly regularly called in a manner of speaking real stupid, dumb, mind controlled, etc and ignorant because I no longer take the theory or the current theory for granted and/or true. And chances are someone will say, well, that's science...new discoveries can change a thought. My reaction to that is that there is a Creator. A supreme being. "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Urey-Miller, that most esteemed experiment, did not show that something came from nothing anyway.
The Urey-Miller experiment was related to organic chemistry. The idea that something came from nothing is related to cosmology. The two sciences have nothing to do with each other. If life came from non-life (abiogenesis), the 'non-life' probably consisted of systems of complex organic compounds.
 
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