The Four Dirty Secrets Against Darwin Evolution

[Argentbear]

And that is why -- not only is evolution a theory lacking continuity, and by that I mean there are no fossils demonstrating the integral (also inner) parts of whatever fish, for instance, said to move/morph/graduate/evolve to apes, or the inner workings of any population shifting from dinosaurs to birds. I am sure these recognitions won't stop the many from advocating the theory as absolutely true nevertheless.

define "demonstrating the integral (also inner) parts"

 

[blü 2]

And that is why -- not only is evolution a theory lacking continuity, and by that I mean there are no fossils demonstrating the integral (also inner) parts of whatever fish, for instance, said to move/morph/graduate/evolve to apes, or the inner workings of any population shifting from dinosaurs to birds. I am sure these recognitions won't stop the many from advocating the theory as absolutely true nevertheless.

Curious that you have all these comments on real evolution but only magic to offer as an alternative, no?

And correct me if I'm wrong, but you have not the slightest idea how magic actually works, no?

 

[Pogo]

Curious that you have all these comments on real evolution but only magic to offer as an alternative, no?

And correct me if I'm wrong, but you have not the slightest idea how magic actually works, no?

It is really tiresome, nothing but complaints even to the point of saying "you don't have a video". and yet they have absolutely zero in support of their position.

 

[blü 2]

It is really tiresome, nothing but complaints even to the point of saying "you don't have a video". and yet they have absolutely zero in support of their position.

In that respect it hasn't changed since my days on the old Beliefnet, from around, what, 2002?

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

You may say that, but it is not a fact. Why not ask those here who believe they can talk with the dead what they think about it? In other words, if it's "magic" that such ones claim they talk with the dead.

To those people, I confidently say: "no, you can't talk with the dead. "

When they say they can, they either really believe it and are delusional, or they are lying.
And I consider that a fact as a result of the enormous amounts of people claiming such ability contrasted with exactly none who can demonstrate such ability.

So much so that I am extremely comfortable making a promise that if anyone can demonstrate to me in independently verifiable manner that they can, I will give them literally everything I own, including the clothes I'm wearing.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Oh, ok. Thank you. So I guess you imagine that's a myth also.

Yeah, a "ghost" (holy or otherwise) impregnating a virgin is pretty mythical.
If such a story was claimed in any other context then the religion you already believe in, you'ld reject it at face value on the grounds that it's batdroppings crazy

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

And that is why -- not only is evolution a theory lacking continuity, and by that I mean there are no fossils demonstrating the integral (also inner) parts of whatever fish, for instance, said to move/morph/graduate/evolve to apes

Tiktaalik. Among many many others.

or the inner workings of any population shifting from dinosaurs to birds.

Archaeopteryx

I am sure these recognitions won't stop the many from advocating the theory as absolutely true nevertheless.

There's nothing to recognize.
What we have here, is once again no more or less then a case of you doing the following:

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

It is really tiresome, nothing but complaints even to the point of saying "you don't have a video". and yet they have absolutely zero in support of their position.

Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous to see how they hold an absurdly impossible high standard of evidence for evolution to the point that it could never be met (pretty much the equivalent of having a fossil of EVERY generation since the dawn of time, with a list of all the mutations of that generation with almost a step by step log of every DNA strand since the down of time till today).... while at the same time they buy into creationism with as basis "the bible says it, I believe it, that settles it".

It's mindblowing.

 

[Argentbear]

To those people, I confidently say: "no, you can't talk with the dead. "

When they say they can, they either really believe it and are delusional, or they are lying.
And I consider that a fact as a result of the enormous amounts of people claiming such ability contrasted with exactly none who can demonstrate such ability.

So much so that I am extremely comfortable making a promise that if anyone can demonstrate to me in independently verifiable manner that they can, I will give them literally everything I own, including the clothes I'm wearing.

you can beleive what you like but that doesn't change the experiences of those of us who have had some sort of personal experience. You can label me a liar or mentally ill if it makes you feel better. I cannot demonstrate anything as i have no idea just what I did, or if I even did anything at all to have this small handful of experiences.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

you can beleive what you like but that doesn't change the experiences of those of us who have had some sort of personal experience.

A priori, I don't doubt people's sincerity or personal experience at all.
If someone claims to have had an experience that they were kidnapped by aliens, I believe them.
But that doesn't mean that I also believe that they were actually kidnapped by aliens.

You can label me a liar or mentally ill if it makes you feel better. I cannot demonstrate anything as i have no idea just what I did, or if I even did anything at all to have this small handful of experiences.

I was referring to people who claim to by psychics etc. You know the kind.... the ones who claim to be able to talk to dead people and who charge money to "contact the dead" relatives of some poor shmo.


As for those who don't claim to have such abilities, but who claim to have had some experience out of their control of seeing a dead ghost or whatever...
As said above: I believe they had an experience. I just think they are wrong about how they interpreted that.
I don't doubt you had an experience. I doubt your explanation of it.

If you say you experienced floating above your body, I might believe you.
But I won't believe you actually were floating above your body.

 

[Astrophile]

And that is why -- not only is evolution a theory lacking continuity, and by that I mean there are no fossils demonstrating the integral (also inner) parts of whatever fish, for instance, said to move/morph/graduate/evolve to apes, or the inner workings of any population shifting from dinosaurs to birds. I am sure these recognitions won't stop the many from advocating the theory as absolutely true nevertheless.

There are literally thousands of fossils illustrating the evolutionary stages from Devonian sarcopterygian fish through early tetrapods through synapsids, Mesozoic mammals and Paleogene primates to Neogene and Quaternary apes. Try looking at Wikipedia.

 

[blü 2]

Since the basic fact and science as reality in terms of the laws of nature can never be verified or proved by scientific reasoning on the matter although there are similar structures in the various entities, I'll leave it up to you to figure it out. Have another good night.

Science makes no absolute statements. Science is validated by the fact that it works.

I suspect the function of gods was originally to explain inexplicable things like thunder and lightning, drought and flood, good and bad luck at hunting, war, love, the status of the dead who could appear in dreams, &c, and to be a purported resource in times of trouble. But they also formed part of tribal identity, along with language, customs, stories, heroes and so on.

So you could say religion works as a tool of tribal solidarity ─ it was the same Christian God who was on both sides in Europe's wars, in WW1 and WW2, in Russia's present invasion of Ukraine, and much more. Or you could more accurately say that other things being equal, God is generally on the side of the big battalions.

And people die all the time, regardless of their views of the supernatural, regardless of peace or war, and as you know, we have no reason to think any part of their awareness or personality persists, though the wishful thinking that replaces it is quite polished after all these centuries. If you really don't want to die, keep your eye on science, which may conquer cancer at some time not unimaginably distant ─ though keep your eye on neurology too, since the world already has a sufficient number of senile folk.

 

[metis]

Oh, ok. Thank you. So I guess you imagine that's a myth also.

How one uses "myth" needs to be defined. Theologically, it does not mean falsehood.

 

[Valjean]

Curious that you have all these comments on real evolution but only magic to offer as an alternative, no?

And correct me if I'm wrong, but you have not the slightest idea how magic actually works, no?

She doesn't seem to have much of a handle on how evolution or science in general work, either.

 

[Valjean]

To those people, I confidently say: "no, you can't talk with the dead. "

When they say they can, they either really believe it and are delusional, or they are lying.
And I consider that a fact as a result of the enormous amounts of people claiming such ability contrasted with exactly none who can demonstrate such ability.

So much so that I am extremely comfortable making a promise that if anyone can demonstrate to me in independently verifiable manner that they can, I will give them literally everything I own, including the clothes I'm wearing.

Would that include the meatballs?

 

[YoursTrue]

How one uses "myth" needs to be defined. Theologically, it does not mean falsehood.

So I wonder -- what parts of the Bible would you consider to not be mythical?

 

[YoursTrue]

Science makes no absolute statements. Science is validated by the fact that it works.

I suspect the function of gods was originally to explain inexplicable things like thunder and lightning, drought and flood, good and bad luck at hunting, war, love, the status of the dead who could appear in dreams, &c, and to be a purported resource in times of trouble. But they also formed part of tribal identity, along with language, customs, stories, heroes and so on.

So you could say religion works as a tool of tribal solidarity ─ it was the same Christian God who was on both sides in Europe's wars, in WW1 and WW2, in Russia's present invasion of Ukraine, and much more. Or you could more accurately say that other things being equal, God is generally on the side of the big battalions.

And people die all the time, regardless of their views of the supernatural, regardless of peace or war, and as you know, we have no reason to think any part of their awareness or personality persists, though the wishful thinking that replaces it is quite polished after all these centuries. If you really don't want to die, keep your eye on science, which may conquer cancer at some time not unimaginably distant ─ though keep your eye on neurology too, since the world already has a sufficient number of senile folk.

Yes, people die "all the time," as you mention.

 

[YoursTrue]

Tiktaalik. Among many many others.



Archaeopteryx



There's nothing to recognize.
What we have here, is once again no more or less then a case of you doing the following:

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I don't agree, but \have a different viewpoint than you do, about life, how it started and how it is.

 

[blü 2]

Yes, people die "all the time," as you mention.

Goodness, can it be we agree on something?

 

[YoursTrue]

Goodness, can it be we agree on something?

Me, oh my, will wonders never cease...