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The Great Deception of the Bible - Foretold in Christianity

3rdAngel

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Some Christians claim, “The Bible is all I need,” but this notion is not taught in the Bible itself. In fact, the Bible teaches the contrary idea (2 Pet. 1:20–21, 3:15–16). The “Bible alone” theory was not believed by anyone in the early Church.

It is new, having arisen only in the 1500s during the Protestant Reformation. The theory is a “tradition of men” that nullifies the Word of God, distorts the true role of the Bible, and undermines the authority of the Church Jesus established (Mark 7:1–8).

Although popular with many “Bible Christian” churches, the “Bible alone” theory simply does not work in practice. Historical experience disproves it. Each year we see additional splintering among “Bible-believing” religions.

Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth


I believe Sola Scipture was not made up in the 1500's whatsoever. It was the belief of all those throughout time that believed and followed God through His Word *HEBREWS 11.

People only started drawing attention to it in the 1500's because the mother Church (Roman Catholic Church) started departing from what was written in the scriptures, handed down by God through the prophets, JESUS and the Apostles.

There is no such thing as the bible alone theory. I believe according to the scriptures it is biblical and always been in the scriptures as this is where we find both our faith and salvation for which there is no other way where we must be saved. JESUS is the living Word of God *JOHN 1:1-4; 14 and has given us his gift of the written Word of God in the old and new testament scriptures.

I believe it is the scriptures alone that teach sola scriptura (the Word of God alone). Jesus says we are to live by EVERY WORD of it *MATTHEW 4:4. It is the scriptures (the Word of God) which leads us to faith and salvation and if we depart the Word of God we depart the faith ......

ROMANS 10:17 [17], So then FAITH COMES BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD.

Now if faith comes by the Word of God and without faith it is impossible to please God and whatsoever is not of faith is sin *HEBREWS 11:6; ROMANS 14:23; how can you have salvation if you have no faith when faith comes by the Word of God. If you have no word you have no faith and you are still in your sins and do not have salvation which according to the scriptures only comes by faith in God's Word (sola scriptura) see also JOHN 3:15-21; JOHN 10:26-27; MATTHEW 7:22-26.

I choose to believe and follow the Word of God as JESUS says we are to live by EVERY WORD that proceeds out of the mouth of God *MATTHEW 4:4.

There is nothing wrong with man made teachings and traditions if they lead us to God. However, JESUS says if we follow man made teachings and traditions that lead us to away from God to break his commandments we are not following God *MATTHEW 15:2-9.

Any Church that leads anyone away from God's Word is leading them away from faith in God and their only hope of salvation IMO to follow the teachings and traditions of men over the Word of God. This is the true heresy in my opinion as the scriptures teach it is only those who believe and follow Gods Word that are his people *JOHN 10:26-27; MATTHEW 7:22-26.

This is the difference I believe according to the scriptures between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 JOHN 3:6-10.

I believe God has his people in every church. That does not mean every Church is following God's Word. I also believe the hour is coming and now is when the true worshippers where ever they may be are being called out from following man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God, back to the pure Word of God. *JOHN 10:16; God is a Spirit and those who whorship him must whorship him in Spirit and in truth * JOHN 4:23.

I believe the Apostle Peter when he says; We ought to obey God rather than men *ACTS 5:29.
The teachings and traditions of men do not supersede the Word of God. If they are contrary to God's Word we need to follow the example of Peter.

More on what the prophecies teach a little latter and elsewhere.
 
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MJFlores

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It is new, having arisen only in the 1500s during the Protestant Reformation.
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The Old Testament is the original Hebrew Bible, the sacred scriptures of the Jewish faith, written at different times between about 1200 and 165 BC. The New Testament books were written by Christians in the first century AD.

BBC - Religions - Christianity: The Bible

 

1213

Well-Known Member
Since the advent of Sola Scriptura, Christianity has splintered into over 30,000 denominations, and every year, that number grows.

Yes, because people are not loyal to God and Jesus. Instead they make their own doctrines and dance around them. Originally Christian meant a disciple of Jesus. And if person is truly a disciple of Jesus, he remains in the words of Jesus.

Jesus therefore said to those Jews who had believed him, "If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
John 8:31-32

Seems quite rare nowadays, unfortunately.
 
Some Christians claim, “The Bible is all I need,” but this notion is not taught in the Bible itself. In fact, the Bible teaches the contrary idea (2 Pet. 1:20–21, 3:15–16). The “Bible alone” theory was not believed by anyone in the early Church.

It is new, having arisen only in the 1500s during the Protestant Reformation. The theory is a “tradition of men” that nullifies the Word of God, distorts the true role of the Bible, and undermines the authority of the Church Jesus established (Mark 7:1–8).

Although popular with many “Bible Christian” churches, the “Bible alone” theory simply does not work in practice. Historical experience disproves it. Each year we see additional splintering among “Bible-believing” religions.

Pillar of Fire, Pillar of Truth

Not So!! As it was written, as our Lord Jesus said:-
Luke 4:4 (KJV)
4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
(Also see Deuteronomy 8:3)
If you were to read Luke chapter four, it gives the written account of our Lord Jesus undergoing temptation by the Devil, and on each occasion, the Devil was rebuffed by the power of the Word of God.
And again:-
2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

And again
Hebrews 4:12 (KJV)
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

And again
John 8:31-32 (KJV)
31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

And there are many more.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
Not So!! As it was written, as our Lord Jesus said:-
Luke 4:4 (KJV)
4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
(Also see Deuteronomy 8:3)
If you were to read Luke chapter four, it gives the written account of our Lord Jesus undergoing temptation by the Devil, and on each occasion, the Devil was rebuffed by the power of the Word of God.
And again:-
2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV)
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

And again
Hebrews 4:12 (KJV)
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

And again
John 8:31-32 (KJV)
31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

And there are many more.

"He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction."

2 Peter 3:16
 
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Cooky

Veteran Member
I believe Sola Scipture was not made up in the 1500's whatsoever. It was the belief of all those throughout time that believed and followed God through His Word *HEBREWS 11.

People only started drawing attention to it in the 1500's because the mother Church (Roman Catholic Church) started departing from what was written in the scriptures, handed down by God through the prophets, JESUS and the Apostles.

There is no such thing as the bible alone theory. I believe according to the scriptures it is biblical and always been in the scriptures as this is where we find both our faith and salvation for which there is no other way where we must be saved. JESUS is the living Word of God *JOHN 1:1-4; 14 and has given us his gift of the written Word of God in the old and new testament scriptures.

I believe it is the scriptures alone that teach sola scriptura (the Word of God alone). Jesus says we are to live by EVERY WORD of it *MATTHEW 4:4. It is the scriptures (the Word of God) which leads us to faith and salvation and if we depart the Word of God we depart the faith ......

ROMANS 10:17 [17], So then FAITH COMES BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD.

Now if faith comes by the Word of God and without faith it is impossible to please God and whatsoever is not of faith is sin *HEBREWS 11:6; ROMANS 14:23; how can you have salvation if you have no faith when faith comes by the Word of God. If you have no word you have no faith and you are still in your sins and do not have salvation which according to the scriptures only comes by faith in God's Word (sola scriptura) see also JOHN 3:15-21; JOHN 10:26-27; MATTHEW 7:22-26.

I choose to believe and follow the Word of God as JESUS says we are to live by EVERY WORD that proceeds out of the mouth of God *MATTHEW 4:4.

There is nothing wrong with man made teachings and traditions if they lead us to God. However, JESUS says if we follow man made teachings and traditions that lead us to away from God to break his commandments we are not following God *MATTHEW 15:2-9.

Any Church that leads anyone away from God's Word is leading them away from faith in God and their only hope of salvation IMO to follow the teachings and traditions of men over the Word of God. This is the true heresy in my opinion as the scriptures teach it is only those who believe and follow Gods Word that are his people *JOHN 10:26-27; MATTHEW 7:22-26.

This is the difference I believe according to the scriptures between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 JOHN 3:6-10.

I believe God has his people in every church. That does not mean every Church is following God's Word. I also believe the hour is coming and now is when the true worshippers where ever they may be are being called out from following man made teachings and traditions that break the commandments of God, back to the pure Word of God. *JOHN 10:16; God is a Spirit and those who whorship him must whorship him in Spirit and in truth * JOHN 4:23.

I believe the Apostle Peter when he says; We ought to obey God rather than men *ACTS 5:29.
The teachings and traditions of men do not supersede the Word of God. If they are contrary to God's Word we need to follow the example of Peter.

More on what the prophecies teach a little latter and elsewhere.

WORD is the name of Jesus Christ. It is not the bible.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
I am Sorry, I do not believe your post here addresses the post you are quoting from. Hand waiving and ignoring God's Word does not make it disappear :)

Yeah, hand waving and ignoring Gods word... I see a lot of that as well.
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
WORD is the name of Jesus Christ. It is not the bible.

If it were not for the Bible, we would know nothing about Jesus. We would not know his purpose, his origin, the reason why he had to die and be resurrected, and how to identify what he is doing right now in these 'last days'.....and on into the future.
God has always had his word recorded.

Jesus is the LOGOS...God's principle spokesman....and has always had this position. Whatever teachings came from Jesus originated with his Father as he said he spoke nothing of his own originality.

John 7:16-17...
"Then Jesus answered them, ‘My teaching is not mine but his who sent me. 17 Anyone who resolves to do the will of God will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own."
 
If it were not for the Bible, we would know nothing about Jesus. We would not know his purpose, his origin, the reason why he had to die and be resurrected, and how to identify what he is doing right now in these 'last days'.....and on into the future.
God has always had his word recorded.

Jesus is the LOGOS...God's principle spokesman....and has always had this position. Whatever teachings came from Jesus originated with his Father as he said he spoke nothing of his own originality.

John 7:16-17...
"Then Jesus answered them, ‘My teaching is not mine but his who sent me. 17 Anyone who resolves to do the will of God will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own."
Well done everyone ni your replies.We live by God's Word.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
If it were not for the Bible, we would know nothing about Jesus. We would not know his purpose, his origin, the reason why he had to die and be resurrected, and how to identify what he is doing right now in these 'last days'.....and on into the future.
God has always had his word recorded.

Jesus is the LOGOS...God's principle spokesman....and has always had this position. Whatever teachings came from Jesus originated with his Father as he said he spoke nothing of his own originality.

John 7:16-17...
"Then Jesus answered them, ‘My teaching is not mine but his who sent me. 17 Anyone who resolves to do the will of God will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own."

The bible is definitely a good thing, and a gift from God. No Christian would argue against that.

...However, the good and holy bible can still be misinterpreted and used as a tool for mischief if viewed with a hardened heart.
 
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Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
The bible is definitely a good thing, and a gift from God. No Christian would argue against that.

...However, the good and holy bible can still be misinterpreted and lead the ignorant to into sin.

It is interesting that you say this.....because no one can alter God’s word or its real meaning to those who have his spirit.
But the devil can blind people to God’s truth...

2 Corinthians 4:3-4 confirms this.....
“But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing , in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ , who is the image of God. (MOUNCE Interlinear)

If the truth is not clear to any person, then it is because “the god of this world” (Satan the devil) has “blinded their minds”. But he can only do this to his own....the “unbelievers”.

He doesn’t just blind their eyes, but in ‘blinding their mind’, (the centre where all input from our senses is processed,) he can prevent any light of truth from penetrating. Only God can prevent that kind of blindness from taking place. We have to be receptive to it, like the Jews in Jesus’ day....who had to have the courage to walk away from that corrupted system and cop the persecution that went with it.

If we remember who Jesus was primarily sent to, his fellow Jews would never have considered themselves “unbelievers”, but because they followed the pattern of their former ways, stubbornly refusing to be corrected by the prophets that God sent to them time and again, as a nation, they lost their place in God’s Kingdom. (Matthew 23:37-39) They became “unbelievers”.

Israel today is not blessed by God because they are still allying themselves with Gentile nations to back them in their conflicts, and their hands are filled with blood, like all the rest. (Isaiah 1:15) Being “Jewish” today is more a national identity than a religious one. It didn’t start out that way.

Christianity didn’t start out corrupt either, but Jesus foretold that the same thing would happen again.....men with power would elevate themselves and make the church conform to their teachings, rather than to Christ’s.

When God opens up a heart to the truth, it’s like the scales that fell from the eyes of Saul after his encounter with Jesus on the road to Damascus......it is life altering. The truth is so crystal clear, that you cannot imagine that you ever believed the adopted pagan nonsense that passes for Christianity today. That was my experience.

How can people not see how entrenched the churches are in the affairs of this world....up to their necks in politics and in supporting the wars of their nations? But completely inept in their commission. They bear great responsibility before God because they ignored Jesus commands and teachings and became ‘friends with the world’. (James 4:4) In doing so, and becoming part of the world, they made themselves enemies of God. (John 15:18-21)
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
It is interesting that you say this.....because no one can alter God’s word or its real meaning to those who have his spirit.
But the devil can blind people to God’s truth...

2 Corinthians 4:3-4 confirms this.....
“But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing , in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ , who is the image of God. (MOUNCE Interlinear)

If the truth is not clear to any person, then it is because “the god of this world” (Satan the devil) has “blinded their minds”. But he can only do this to his own....the “unbelievers”.

He doesn’t just blind their eyes, but in ‘blinding their mind’, (the centre where all input from our senses is processed,) he can prevent any light of truth from penetrating. Only God can prevent that kind of blindness from taking place. We have to be receptive to it, like the Jews in Jesus’ day....who had to have the courage to walk away from that corrupted system and cop the persecution that went with it.

If we remember who Jesus was primarily sent to, his fellow Jews would never have considered themselves “unbelievers”, but because they followed the pattern of their former ways, stubbornly refusing to be corrected by the prophets that God sent to them time and again, as a nation, they lost their place in God’s Kingdom. (Matthew 23:37-39) They became “unbelievers”.

Israel today is not blessed by God because they are still allying themselves with Gentile nations to back them in their conflicts, and their hands are filled with blood, like all the rest. (Isaiah 1:15) Being “Jewish” today is more a national identity than a religious one. It didn’t start out that way.

Christianity didn’t start out corrupt either, but Jesus foretold that the same thing would happen again.....men with power would elevate themselves and make the church conform to their teachings, rather than to Christ’s.

When God opens up a heart to the truth, it’s like the scales that fell from the eyes of Saul after his encounter with Jesus on the road to Damascus......it is life altering. The truth is so crystal clear, that you cannot imagine that you ever believed the adopted pagan nonsense that passes for Christianity today. That was my experience.

How can people not see how entrenched the churches are in the affairs of this world....up to their necks in politics and in supporting the wars of their nations? But completely inept in their commission. They bear great responsibility before God because they ignored Jesus commands and teachings and became ‘friends with the world’. (James 4:4) In doing so, and becoming part of the world, they made themselves enemies of God. (John 15:18-21)

Is it your job to insult other religions? Where does the bible tell you to go out and to complain to people about how their religion fails as you did in this post I'm responding to?

Is this Jesus' greatest command to you? Because you seem to spend the majority of your posts complaining about others.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
@Deeje, I think if God appeared to you personally, and told you not to bother other religious people, you wouldn't even listen to him... Because I think you do it for you, because you enjoy it.

...Honestly, how does it make you feel to be one of the 144,000..? Are you proud of it?
 
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Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
Is it your job to insult other religions? Where does the bible tell you to go out and to complain to people about how their religion fails as you did in this post I'm responding to?

Exposing the lies of the religious leaders of his day is what Jesus did routinely...it is what the apostles did too....they exposed the rot so that honest hearted people could see through the made up human traditions and meaningless rituals and understand the simple truth...but if its not clear, then the deceiver has worked his magic on people. Why do you think Jesus says to the "many" come judgment day..."I NEVER knew you"? (Matthew 7:21-23)

Is this Jesus' greatest command to you? Because you seem to spend the majority of your posts complaining about others.

My complaint is with the institution of the church, including the whole of Christendom....not the people in it who deserve to know the truth. What if Jesus had said nothing because people might be offended? If the cap fits, its their problem.

Jesus' command to all of his disciples was to "preach the good news of the Kingdom" in all nations before God brings an end to this system of things. (Matthew 24:14; Matthew 28:19-20) Which Kingdom does the Roman Catholic Church support, along with the rest of Christendom....? Their own. If Jesus taught us to 'love our enemies', then why is the military full of "Christians"? Why are there chaplains in the armed forces salving troubled consciences? How do you love your enemy by training to kill him with all manner of the most heinous weaponry? Seriously...can you not see the hypocrisy and disobedience?

Can you tell me what the good news of the Kingdom is? What has your church taught you about that? Do Catholic people preach the good news about this kingdom? If not, why not? It was a command, not a suggestion.

What leader do they support? Jesus or the Pope? One only has to observe his 'rock star' status to know that the Pope is far removed from the persona of Jesus Christ whom he is supposed to represent. Jesus did not need a Popemobile and body guards....or a palace to live in an untouchable city that has its own statehood.

How does the Vatican sit on such vast wealth when huge numbers of the world's poor are Catholic, who never get any help?

The greatest command that Jesus Gave was to LOVE GOD with one's whole heart, mind and soul.....a love so deep that it prevents us from disobeying Christ's commands....if that is what is taught in Catholicism, then why are the jails full of criminals who claim to be Catholic? Why are their institutions so blighted with entrenched pedophilia and homosexuality all over the world?
Do you think a priest being able to absolve them of their sins might be the problem? Say a few "Hail Mary;" and "Our Father's" and off you go to do it again....?

I think if God appeared to you personally, and told you not to bother other religious people, you wouldn't even listen to him... Because I think you do it for you, because you enjoy it.

Enjoy what? Exposing lies and telling the truth? Isn't that what Jesus did in the corrupt religious system that he grew up in....and which ended up executing him for trying to do the right thing by those who professed his own faith? Sticking their fingers in their ears and failing to take notice of his message did not do much for them did it? God abandoned them. (Matthew 23:37-39)

Jesus said that his return would see the same sort of situation as Noah faced.....the lone voice of a man trying to preach righteousness to unrighteous people. No one took any notice of Noah's warnings. (Matthew 24:37-39)

If you think that trying to rescue drowning people is bothering them, then remind me not to throw you any lifelines....OK?
Someone threw me a lifeline 47 years ago and I have been trying to do the same for others ever since. If our choices are not "informed choices" how will they ever be good ones?

...Honestly, how does it make you feel to be one of the 144,000..? Are you proud of it?

Talking of informed choices......that made me smile.....I have no such assignment. My hope is entirely earthly. I have no desire to go to heaven....my home is here on earth where God put us in the first place.

The 144,000 are those who will go to heaven to rule with Christ in his Kingdom. (Revelation 14:1) If you knew your Bible, you would know this. They will be his fellow rulers and priests (Revelation 20:6) and they will have millions of the redeemed ones of mankind to bring back into a reconciliation with God. This is what the Kingdom is for. (Revelation 21:2-4)

The Bible has such wonderful news Landon Caeli.....but you'd rather believe the 'heaven or hell' scenario taught by your church. Its your choice.....but please understand what it is that you are choosing...and why.
 
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The Bible is the foundation. Other books, documents, references and so forth are certainly good aids.
Consider these scriptures: Romans 15:4; 2 Peter 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20, 21.
 

Iymus

Active Member
Fine then...

TRINITY:
The doctrine of the Trinity is encapsulated in Matthew 28:19, where Jesus instructs the apostles: “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”

1. trinity encapsulation built on a lie then. false doctrine.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

baptize / cleansing them in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. why? Because the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit bear record in heaven.

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
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2. you are neglecting at least two verses in Matthew Chapter 28 which are more expedient and deny the Trinity doctrine.

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
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3. Who gave the Son power and Whose doctrine did he teach?

Joh 13:3 Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into his hands, and that he was come from God, and went to God;

Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

4. Who do we pray to and whose will is to be done in Heaven and Earth?

Mat 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Mat 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
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The following below is just observations.

I don't believe that the Roman (Latin) Church possesses exclusivity as The Church.

:rolleyes:
:oops:

Nonsense.

By what authority can you rightly claim that your interpretation of the bible is the accurate one?

...Because I can show you where these things are implicitly present in the bible, as interpreted by God's one and only Holy Catholic Church, the solely authorized interpreter of the bible..!
 

Iymus

Active Member
WORD is the name of Jesus Christ.

Taken out of Context to make the Anointed of God God, instead of the only begotten Son of God which the bible says he is.

Luk 6:40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

Joh 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Joh 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Joh 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

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Joh 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
Joh 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

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Iymus

Active Member
Taken out of Context to make the Anointed of God God, instead of the only begotten Son of God which the bible says he is.

Luk 6:40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

Joh 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Joh 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Joh 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

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Joh 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
Joh 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

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Mar 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

Joh 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
Joh 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Joh 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.




 

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Taken out of Context to make the Anointed of God God, instead of the only begotten Son of God which the bible says he is.

Luk 6:40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

Joh 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Joh 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

Joh 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

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Joh 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.
Joh 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

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Speak to me with your heart, man. One on one... I don't understand any of that stuff.

...I feel like I'm talking to a book.
 
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