Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
"Great scholars" wouldn't think a man who claimed there was no creator god was sent by one.
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The Growing Greatness of Muhammad (S+) In The Eyes of Much of The World
- Thread starter al-amiyr
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Lady B
noob
In all due respect : How can Islam except a messenger that does not give his message from God?
what does Islam having converts from Buddhism have to do with a respect of Buddha?
al-amiyr
Active Member
I wanted to be fair to everybody and show everybody what the Prophet's example would have been under similar circumstances if he were a member of this forum. I took my lesson from an example of an incident in the Prophet's (S+) life himself.
The Prophet(S+) emigrated from Makkah the city of his birth to Madiynah the city of his mother and many of his followers. After a time the enemies of Makkah launch war against him and after a few years there was a truce and one of the conditions was that the Prophet (S+) and his followers could enter Makkah. When the peace treaty was signed on it was written Muhammad the Messenger of God. There was an objection from one of the opposing forces who said No not Muhammad the Messenger of God but Muhammad the son of Abdullaah because we do not accept your claim to be a prophet. The Prophet had no objection and he removed Muhammad the Messenger of God and he replace it with Muhammad the son of Abdullaah.
Such was the way of the Prophet(S+). Even that behavior brought the Prophet (S+) even more followers. That is but a dot of the way the Prophet (S+) was. That is why we love him so much and it pains us when we hear how badly they speak of him without any justification. If he was here I believe he would have told me to change the thread from what it was to what it is now. He would have said I believe," make them happy! Maybe God would give them the guidance and show them the way."
al-amiyr
Active Member
We do not believe that he taught there was no God.
InvestigateTruth
Veteran Member
I am not sure if Islamic Traditions talks about Buddha explicitly, but this is Baha'i View:
"The founder of Buddhism was a wonderful soul. He established the Oneness of God, but later the original principles of His doctrines gradually disappeared, and ignorant customs and ceremonials arose and increased until they finally ended in the worship of statues and images.
Now, consider: Christ frequently repeated that the Ten Commandments in the Pentateuch were to be followed, and He insisted that they should be maintained. Among the Ten Commandments is one which says: Do not worship any picture or image. At present in some of the Christian churches many pictures and images exist. It is, therefore, clear and evident that the Religion of God does not maintain its original principles among the people, but that it has gradually changed and altered until it has been entirely destroyed and annihilated. Because of this the manifestation is renewed, and a new religion established. But if religions did not change and alter, there would be no need of renewal. "- Abdulbaha, Some Answered Questions
al-amiyr
Active Member
Many Muslims do not believe that and the Prophet did not speak on the matter as we know directly. But the Qur'aan teaches that God the Most High and Higher blessed all nations with messengers and that no distinctions should be made between them. These are basically a view I also hold of The honourable Buddha. It is not something I can argue about.
dyanaprajna2011
Dharmapala
al-amiyr, I think your info on Buddhism is greatly flawed. First, there are only 300,000,000 Buddhists worldwide, and none that I know has accepted Mohammed as a prophet of a god we don't believe exists. Second, just because your holy book says that your god blessed all nations with prophets, doesn't mean that it's true. The Buddha taught that there were many gods, but that they were not deserving of worship, as they had no power in the human realm, and were subject to desire, death, and rebirth as we are. He also said he was higher than any god that might exist.
al-amiyr
Active Member
This is the same what Islaam has taught but the prophet(S+) was the last prophet(S+) and no revelation afterwards, There can only be inspiration.
I don't think that's something that is up to individual belief; if there is historical evidence that he taught there was no God, then what anyone might believe to the contrary doesn't hold any weight on the subject.
al-amiyr
Active Member
I am fully aware what people believe about Buddha. The Pope once said that Buddhism is an atheistic religion. But I cannot argue the matter because I require more proof. I have always maintained that my belief about Buddha might be wrong and I have wondered about it for almost thirty years.I hope somehow that there will be found proof that Buddha was a messenger from God. But for now I would rather accept him as such because he was a great enlightened man. No doubt about this.
Lady B
noob
please define inspiration from your Islamic view
Dingbat
Avatar of Brittania
The crux of the Buddha's arguments is that humanity needs no gods. Everything humanity needs is simply within themselves and while the gods may exist they have no effect upon that of humanity. The Buddha was quite clear on this and rejected any kind of divine mandate. The Buddha simply came to this after years as a religious seeker who found serious problems with the other Vedic faiths.
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
To accept him as something which is historically false is an insult to him, just as claiming Muhammad was a pedophile is an insult to Muhammad, verdad?
al-amiyr
Active Member
I do not believe that there is enough evidence. I speak for myself only. In this matter I am an A-Atheist. 'I know that I am breaking the hearts of all atheists here when I say that I do not believe that the Great Enlightened One was not one of the Atheists. It is not my intention to take your 'Prophetless' away from you.
al-amiyr
Active Member
Maybe I need enlightenment.
al-amiyr
Active Member
I do not believe that one could come to your own conclusions on these kinds of matters. What is your view about the Maitreya?
Dingbat
Avatar of Brittania
Err I am not coming to it on my own it is from the Buddha himself and shows up in all transmissions of his teachings. That or you are demanding I find some Buddhist Scholar to back that up but Buddhism isn't like Islam in that regard. The Maitreya is just another enlightened being and that doesn't mean divine origin nor should it necessarily be taken literally. Buddhism has its mysticism in some sects but those were latter additions the Buddha never made a claim of divinity nor a connection with it.
InvestigateTruth
Veteran Member
Can you support your claim based on verses of Quran and Authentic Hadithes please?
Lady B
noob
I saw that one coming.....