fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
Nope.I thought you were one who discounted Acts as historical. Isn't that what you claimed earlier?
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Nope.I thought you were one who discounted Acts as historical. Isn't that what you claimed earlier?
You beat me to it.You're not very good at it.
Seriously? I definitely would say neither.Just curious. Would you say that what we have in the Book of Mormon is a view of early North American history? Or an historical view of the Angel Moroni, maybe?
Do you really have to wait for my assessment? You should know by now that without reading what I've stated in the past you won't get far.well lets see what fallingblood has to say about my assessment of what he has said and cut the small talk?
or would you prefer to make snide comments?
haha this is more true than you realize.Do you really have to wait for my assessment? You should know by now that without reading what I've stated in the past you won't get far.
OK, but it has to be a theological work, filled with fabulous claims of magic, in which Blood is not invested... so I can see if he views it as historically reliable.
Suggestions?
:faint: Yes, your substantive posts have been a real help. Because you know, I love the facepalm impression that I have gotten after reading so many of your posts.and your response to my substantive posts can be summarized by using the word "blather".
I didn't mean to interrupt your reading of your own thread, my apologies.:faint: Yes, your substantive posts have been a real help. Because you know, I love the facepalm impression that I have gotten after reading so many of your posts.
Not the consensus at all. Basically, all but a handful of scholars believe that Josephus wrote about Jesus.Hey, Quagmire. Thanks for the link, but I'm not qualified to do source research. If you showed me Josephus' mention of Jesus (Christus?), I'd have no idea how to demonstrate that it's probably a fake, as seems to be the consensus among the experts who study such things.
No, yes, no.So the Josephus quote about John the Baptist is the same for me. Is it a fake? Is it really about the John of the Bible? Did Josephus have reason to concoct it?
What does victory have to do with reading my posts? You reading my posts would just be easier for all involved. This way, you wouldn't have to make asinine responses.I am not interested in claiming victory.
is the source of information used to describe historical jesus the same source used to describe biblical jesus?
"With no brains, no heart, and no blood, it's amazing jellyfish have existed for 650 million years!"
I'm sure you are. Clearly you have a problem reading, and I'm sure since you've done no research, most of this goes over your head. I'd be bored to if I didn't understand anything.ok I am officially bored.
I might go for a walk
ttyl
what goes over my head... thank you.I'm sure you are. Clearly you have a problem reading, and I'm sure since you've done no research, most of this goes over your head. I'd be bored to if I didn't understand anything.
That isn't actually the current consensus.
All I can tell you is that according to everything I've ever read about Josephus, the John the Baptist references are considered authentic.
But I've never engaged the debate on John's historicity and was curious whether outhouse would indulge me.
Who can say about scholarly consensus.
It's usually just another arguing point. I'll just say that over the years, I've heard enough conservative Christians concede the probable fakery that I hold a fairly stout opinion on its illegitimacy now.
Sure, I've mostly heard the same thing. But I've never engaged the debate on John's historicity and was curious whether outhouse would indulge me.
And I get a little tired of being sent to favorite webpages, or told that if I were only as smart as my opponent, I would believe just as he believes.
which part of each source describes historical jesus and which part describes biblical jesus?What does victory have to do with reading my posts? You reading my posts would just be easier for all involved. This way, you wouldn't have to make asinine responses.
As for your question (which again shows that you have not even tried to read what I have said so far), yes.