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The last post is the WINNER!

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It's not a logical fallacy if no argument is made.
But your argument does nothing to demonstrate
that your personal definition is superior to the
dictionary's.
Defining a word with the word being defined is a circular definition and is a logical fallacy.
Circular definition - Wikipedia
A circular definition is one that uses the term(s) being defined as a part of the definition or assumes a prior understanding of the term being defined. There are several kinds of circular definition, and several ways of characterising the term: pragmatic, lexicographic and linguistic.

Circular definitions may be unhelpful if the audience must either already know the meaning of the key term, or if the term to be defined is used in the definition itself.
Fallacies of definition - Wikipedia
If one concept is defined by another, and the other is defined by the first, this is known as a circular definition, akin to circular reasoning: neither offers enlightenment about what one wanted to know.[7] "It is a fallacy because by using a synonym in the definiens the reader is told nothing significantly new."[5]

A straightforward example would be to define "Jew" as "a person believing in Judaism", and "Judaism" as "the religion of the Jewish people", which would make "Judaism" "the religion of the people believing in Judaism."
Other problems with a dictionary are with things like evolution or communism. Attaching evolution to Darwin isn't really accurate as the idea of evolution was around long before Darwin and his grandfather tutored and educated Darwin on the subject. Likewise communism was around way before Marx and it was a communist group who hired him and Engels to write the communist manifesto. But dictionaries will often make these mistakes.
Lets take a look at everyone's favorite online example, Nazis. Nazis is generally and typically defined as a member of the National Socialists party in Germany under Adolf Hitler.
Na·zi
/ˈnätsē/
noun
noun: Nazi; plural noun: Nazis
historical
a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
But that doesn't say who they were. An encyclopedia does just that. Just a couple paragraphs will generally give you that "view" that lets you know they were fascists, racists, and radically Right Wing
Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsiɪzəm, ˈnæt-/ NA(H)T-see-iz-əm),[1] officially National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus [natsjoˈnaːlzotsjaˌlɪsmʊs]), is the ideology and practices associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, NSDAP, or National Socialist German Workers' Party in English) in Nazi Germany. During Hitler's rise to power in 1930s Europe, it was frequently referred to as Hitlerism. The later related term "Neo-Nazism" is applied to other far-right groups with similar ideas which formed after the collapse of the Nazi regime.

Nazism is a form of fascism,[2][3][4][5] with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, scientific racism, and the use of eugenics into its creed. Its extreme nationalism originated in pan-Germanism and the ethno-nationalist Völkisch movement which had been a prominent aspect of German nationalism since the late 19th century, and it was strongly influenced by the Freikorps paramilitary groups that emerged after Germany's defeat in World War I, from which came the party's underlying "cult of violence".[6] Nazism subscribed to pseudo-scientific theories of a racial hierarchy[7] and social Darwinism, identifying the Germans as a part of what the Nazis regarded as an Aryan or Nordic master race.[8] It aimed to overcome social divisions and create a homogeneous German society based on racial purity which represented a people's community (Volksgemeinschaft). The Nazis aimed to unite all Germans living in historically German territory, as well as gain additional lands for German expansion under the doctrine of Lebensraum and exclude those who they deemed either Community Aliens or "inferior" races.
A dictionary is generally ok to use, but sometimes it is not the best or most optimal choice.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Tuesday evening win.

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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Defining a word with the word being defined is a circular definition and is a logical fallacy.
Circular definition - Wikipedia

Fallacies of definition - Wikipedia

Other problems with a dictionary are with things like evolution or communism. Attaching evolution to Darwin isn't really accurate as the idea of evolution was around long before Darwin and his grandfather tutored and educated Darwin on the subject. Likewise communism was around way before Marx and it was a communist group who hired him and Engels to write the communist manifesto. But dictionaries will often make these mistakes.
Lets take a look at everyone's favorite online example, Nazis. Nazis is generally and typically defined as a member of the National Socialists party in Germany under Adolf Hitler.

But that doesn't say who they were. An encyclopedia does just that. Just a couple paragraphs will generally give you that "view" that lets you know they were fascists, racists, and radically Right Wing

A dictionary is generally ok to use, but sometimes it is not the best or most optimal choice.
Hitting me with a wall of red herring text to justify
mis-using "futuristic", eh. Here are some more
for you to re-define...
Words that end in istic | Words ending in istic
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
My car wins with fresh oil and filter.
It needs some attention in a few spots before the inside is a spiffy clean win again.
But I win checking off one of the last remaining maintenance thingies.
Then it's replacing more broken things.
Then maintenance and repairs will be complete. Mostly. The roof of my car needs repainted, and I need to unclog the windshield wiper sprayer. But around here using that often makes it worse, so it's been ultra low priority for me. Like replacing the rear windshield wiper. I'm likely to never actually do that unless the rubber strip falls off too much.
And, I want to get new wheels, or at least.new hubcaps. And front strut bar and sway bars. And I had an itch today to make it a turbo.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
I was just thinking. Aliens must have a sense of humor. Many of their space crafts seem to be flying d*** and poop jokes.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Winning by going to have a root-canal later this morning and using up the remaining dental insurance coverage for 2021. It's winning because the alternative is worsening pain.
 
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