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The last post is the WINNER!

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
I tried to join the Australian airforce when I was 17. I passed the physical but got rejected for not being aggressive enough. I should have jumped the desk, punched him and yelled, how do you like me now!

nah just follow Arlo Guthries lead in Alice’s Restaurant… start yelling kill, Kill, KIll, KILl KILL….and jumping up and down…. And you would have been in
 

Stonetree

Abducted Member
Premium Member
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By the time I came of age, there was no draft, but I still had to register for Selective Service (which was brought back by Reagan). I attempted to enlist in the US Navy when I was 19, but I failed the physical. So, at least I can say with a clear conscience that I tried to serve but was turned down.

I see nothing wrong with being a conscientious objector, although that wouldn't have necessarily exempted one from military service. One can serve in non-combat roles.

I had somewhat mixed feelings about war when I was younger. I was born later than the average hippie or Vietnam Vet. I was influenced by the anti-war movement as I was growing up, and definitely enjoyed the music of the era. But I also had other influences regarding America and war, such as my uncles who fought in WW2 and were pretty much hawkish and right-wing on their view of the world. I've also befriended some Vietnam Vets who also had a rather hawkish view.

But I also knew quite a few lefty types - even more when I got into college. Not very many radicals or revolutionaries by then, as the tumult of the 60s had cooled down considerably. There wasn't really even a very strong anti-war movement either, not by the 80s. It's not as if their ideals changed or their views of the U.S. government had changed, but it just wasn't that important anymore. People just stopped caring. At some point, the military became cool again, and the big thing was "support the troops." Even Jane Fonda apologized.

For similar reasons, it's why it comes up as an issue in political campaigns, as it did with Quayle, Clinton, Trump - or anyone else who didn't serve. The fact that it's brought up at all is an indicator that political pundits obviously believe it will influence a significant portion of the electorate.

It's not so much about war, in and of itself. It's not even about serving in the military. These politicians and others who have ostensibly reversed their previous anti-war stance are, in essence, affirming their belief in the same geopolitical perceptions and national security aspirations which they previously opposed.

In other words, they were right when they younger. I've heard it said that "If you're not a liberal by age 20, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by age 30, you have no brain."
Some folks say they believe it's God,Country then Family..........I believe it's important 'to be true to thine own self', meaning there is a great deal of hypocrisy out there. You have to make your own decisions. Stevicus, I, honestly, believe those who served should be praised and respected but I also believe the leaders of our country lie and during the Viet Nam war the decision was made to send to war those who did not do well in school. McNamara, Sec.of Defense during the Viet Nam war admitted many years after the war that the lottery system used to select draftees was tampered with, making it an unfair system. Why should we be faithful to a government that says the draft system is fair but that same government lies to the public?....Make your own decision!
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Well I’m bored and tired I’m going to read a book and then go to sleep
Goodnight RF….
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I tried to join the Australian airforce when I was 17. I passed the physical but got rejected for not being aggressive enough. I should have jumped the desk, punched him and yelled, how do you like me now!

I guess the basic training might do it.

 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
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Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Here I am again to make you guys the winners. I hope my post here goes to making your day so much better.

You guys win again.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
nah just follow Arlo Guthries lead in Alice’s Restaurant… start yelling kill, Kill, KIll, KILl KILL….and jumping up and down…. And you would have been in
Bear, are you reading my mind? That was the first thought I had when reading that post. Arlo knew how the game was played.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
I tried to join the Australian airforce when I was 17. I passed the physical but got rejected for not being aggressive enough. I should have jumped the desk, punched him and yelled, how do you like me now!
I wonder how aggressive you have to be for the air force? Probably it would be better if you were really good at video games.
 
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