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The Law Is Often Not About Preventing Crime, But Rather Just Punishing People

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Woman has spontaneous miscarriage after hospital
denies her services while they evaluate legal liability.
State is considering prosecuting her for "abusing
a corpse".
In the news....

**** government.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The law is an ***Moderator Edit***
That's unfair to butts.

BTW, under RF rules we may not
disguise a word that's prohibited.
Best to find an alternative.
Although I understand that your
statement is a standard pithy quote.
I agree with it.
It is especially so when evil people
exploit ambiguities & errors for the
purpose of abusing people, & causing
woe.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Woman has spontaneous miscarriage after hospital
denies her services while they evaluate legal liability.
State is considering prosecuting her for "abusing
a corpse".
In the news....

**** government.
Like I have said before. This is about controlling women.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Yuhuh.

I always say that if the genders were flipped and woman occupied the political sphere as much as men do currently, abortion wouldn't even be considered to be a political issue at all. Not even up for debate.

It'd just be presumed to be a self-evident human right.
Men seem always to have had a strange view of the rules where they are concerned. Here's a snippet from Shakespeare's King Lear, a conversation betweent he Dukes of Kent and Gloucester.

KENT Is not this your son, my lord?
GLOUCESTER His breeding, sir, hath been at my
charge. I have so often blushed to acknowledge
him that now I am brazed to ’t.
KENT I cannot conceive you.
GLOUCESTER Sir, this young fellow’s mother could,
whereupon she grew round-wombed and had indeed,
sir, a son for her cradle ere she had a husband
for her bed. Do you smell a fault?
KENT I cannot wish the fault undone, the issue of it
being so proper.
GLOUCESTER But I have a son, sir, by order of law,
some year elder than this, who yet is no dearer in
my account. Though this knave came something
saucily to the world before he was sent for, yet was
his mother fair, there was good sport at his making,
and the whoreson must be acknowledged.

As an out-of-wedlock child myself (there's another word for that, beginning with "B"), I've always wondered how the girl he's talking about did wrong, while he -- a married man -- did not. Since he's calling his son, Edmund, "whoreson," that means he is calling his mother a whore. But of course, he can't see how he did anything wrong.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Woman has spontaneous miscarriage after hospital
denies her services while they evaluate legal liability.
State is considering prosecuting her for "abusing
a corpse".
In the news....

**** government.
Well, I doubt that the law against committing an indignity to a corpse was created for this situation -- but, I do see your point: since they've got the law, why not use it? That leaves us with hoping either that a jury has more sense than some in the legal profression, or that an appeal to higher courts may force amendments to the law for such situations.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Like I have said before. This is about controlling women.
That's the feminist view that's useful for
feeling that women are victims, & men
are perpetrators. (Feminists tend to ignore
the fact that very many women also oppose
abortion.)

I say that it's about obsession with fetuses,
& the belief that they have an absolute
right to life.
The fact that it directly affects women is
simply that they're usually the ones who
get pregnant.
 

flowerpower

Member
That's the feminist view that's useful for
feeling that women are victims, & men
are perpetrators. (Feminists tend to ignore
the fact that very many women also oppose
abortion.)

I say that it's about obsession with fetuses,
& the belief that they have an absolute
right to life.
The fact that it directly affects women is
simply that they're usually the ones who
get pregnant.

LOL "usually" :laughing:

It's really weird how the law is even being interpreted with all this brand new anti-abortion stuff (overturning Roe).

I heard someone say that calling a fetus a "corpse" is a pretty new and bizarre concept. I guess there's some truth to that.

I mean, even pre-sexual revolution, women would miscarry or have a still born and apparently that was just regarded as the end of it. Even in sad instances where there's an emotional attachment to the fetus/baby, this new conceptualizing of the law is really odd.

It's not so much archaic as it is draconian. And it seems to be extremely misogynistic in nature.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
LOL "usually" :laughing:

It's really weird how the law is even being interpreted with all this brand new anti-abortion stuff (overturning Roe).

I heard someone say that calling a fetus a "corpse" is a pretty new and bizarre concept. I guess there's some truth to that.

I mean, even pre-sexual revolution, women would miscarry or have a still born and apparently that was just regarded as the end of it. Even in sad instances where there's an emotional attachment to the fetus/baby, this new conceptualizing of the law is really odd.

It's not so much archaic as it is draconian. And it seems to be extremely misogynistic in nature.
Fundamentalists have been ramping up
imposing their extreme view of the rights
of a fetus, & now its "corpse". So much
opportunity to punish the wicked, eh.
 

flowerpower

Member
Fundamentalists have been ramping up
imposing their extreme view of the rights
of a fetus, & now its "corpse". So much
opportunity to punish the wicked, eh.

Fundamentalists have been responsible for a lot of horrible cultural stuff but grandstanding, taunting and punching down at women (many of whom are already seriously grieving the loss of a pregnancy) with the full force of the law behind them, using inflammatory language to boot, might seriously be a brave new low for these people. Totally shameless.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Fundamentalists have been responsible for a lot of horrible cultural stuff but grandstanding, taunting and punching down at women (many of whom are already seriously grieving the loss of a pregnancy) with the full force of the law behind them, using inflammatory language to boot, might seriously be a brave new low for these people. Totally shameless.
No shame when doing God's work.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Woman has spontaneous miscarriage after hospital
denies her services while they evaluate legal liability.
State is considering prosecuting her for "abusing
a corpse".
In the news....

**** government.
The "land of the free" has more people in prison
than any other country.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Woman has spontaneous miscarriage after hospital
denies her services while they evaluate legal liability.
State is considering prosecuting her for "abusing
a corpse".
In the news....

**** government.
Already addressed on another thread.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The "land of the free" has more people in prison
than any other country.
Definitely a concern. My own thoughts on the matter is the fact slavery is still around and perfectly legal, endorsed and supported by both parties, and this is the way America does it as a modern day slave country.

Except the plantation owners are no longer private citizens, the plantation owner today is the government.

There needs to be a Confederate flag flying in every prison in the country.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Definitely a concern. My own thoughts on the matter is the fact slavery is still around and perfectly legal, endorsed and supported by both parties, and this is the way America does it as a modern day slave country.

Except the plantation owners are no longer private citizens the plantation owner today is the government.
But the prisoners are not labour, they are
the commodity.
 
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