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The Logic of God

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I'm placing this thread in debate as it may well turn into one.
But for the most part, what I'm asking is a one statement essay that you believe shows a line of logic.

Pick any thought or feeling you might consider beyond refute.
Support with your cause for belief.

If you can refrain the rebuttal of someone else's essay....that would be good.
This thread is more to declaration than argument.

But should we digress to debate and rebuttal....oh well.
 

Road Warrior

Seeking the middle path..
God is beyond the Universe, therefore beyond the limits of the Universe such as logic, gravity or any other of the fundamental laws contained within the Natural Universe.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
We are discussing God.
I was hoping for a display of supportive logic.

Chemistry can't go there.
Anyone care to take a step up?
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Love is chemistry. I guess you don't mean that God is chemical reactions, do you?
Love is more than chemistry and more than a Hallmark card. If you w/don't understand love then you w/don't understand God. Look, you've even gone and proven my point before I even made it. :D
 

Reptillian

Hamburgler Extraordinaire
I'm placing this thread in debate as it may well turn into one.
But for the most part, what I'm asking is a one statement essay that you believe shows a line of logic.

Pick any thought or feeling you might consider beyond refute.
Support with your cause for belief.

If you can refrain the rebuttal of someone else's essay....that would be good.
This thread is more to declaration than argument.

But should we digress to debate and rebuttal....oh well.

Whatever God's definition is, here is a logical statement that I think is beyond refute: God is God.

Hooray for tautology!
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
We are discussing God.
I was hoping for a display of supportive logic.

Chemistry can't go there.
Anyone care to take a step up?
If we are discussing God, it comes down to faith (aka, opinion), as there is no evidence of God aside from as an idea in the mind.

My god-meme is better than your god-meme. :D
 

Reptillian

Hamburgler Extraordinaire
Love is chemistry. I guess you don't mean that God is chemical reactions, do you?

Love arises from chemistry in the brain, just as God arises from chemistry in the brain...works for me. :D

I take a more romantic and less reductionsitic view. Maybe love causes brain chemistry. When I see a tree, there are reactions in my brain that cause me to percieve it, but there is still something external initiating and causing the reactions. Similarly, perhaps there is something deeper that might be called love.
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
I take a more romantic and less reductionsitic view. Maybe love causes brain chemistry. When I see a tree, there are reactions in my brain that cause me to percieve it, but there is still something external initiating and causing the reactions. Similarly, perhaps there is something deeper that might be called love.
Of course there is something external initiating it: the light reaching your eye causing you to see the tree and experience the emotion. Interconnection and all that.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
I'm placing this thread in debate as it may well turn into one.
But for the most part, what I'm asking is a one statement essay that you believe shows a line of logic.

Pick any thought or feeling you might consider beyond refute.
Support with your cause for belief.

If you can refrain the rebuttal of someone else's essay....that would be good.
This thread is more to declaration than argument.

But should we digress to debate and rebuttal....oh well.


Alright that's pretty easy: the more basic is more logical, less basic in light of the more basic. There is no reason we need god for existence. Logic can show that there is no loving entity, no divine aide, et. The only thing god is needed for is creation, which does not need anything we would categorize as god.

We are discussing God.
I was hoping for a display of supportive logic.

Chemistry can't go there.
Anyone care to take a step up?

Well love is caused by chemical reactions in the brain, so obviously God is not love unless god is a product of the brain.

Love is more than chemistry and more than a Hallmark card. If you w/don't understand love then you w/don't understand God. Look, you've even gone and proven my point before I even made it. :D

We may not understand primitive and illogical mythologies but you don't understand modern science. I'm cool with our way.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
We may not understand primitive and illogical mythologies but you don't understand modern science.
Oh, this is the "since you don't share my philosophy, you must be stupid" argument. Fair enough.

Still waiting for "Love Potion #9" to arrive at a pharmacy near me. What??? They can't do that??? What's all this about ME not understanding SCIENCE? More Science of the Gaps.
 

PolyHedral

Superabacus Mystic
Oh, this is the "since you don't share my philosophy, you must be stupid" argument. Fair enough.

Still waiting for "Love Potion #9" to arrive at a pharmacy near me. What??? They can't do that??? What's all this about ME not understanding SCIENCE? More Science of the Gaps.
Science isn't omnipotent until you get into the godlike intelligence category. :D
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Oh, this is the "since you don't share my philosophy, you must be stupid" argument. Fair enough.

Still waiting for "Love Potion #9" to arrive at a pharmacy near me. What??? They can't do that??? What's all this about ME not understanding SCIENCE? More Science of the Gaps.

How bout since you reject known fact?

Apparently you've never heard of Ecstacy, heroin, vicodin, and other euphoria inducing drugs huh? Actually love is most similar to cocaine addiction.

Think your ridiculous " arguments" through.
 
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