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"THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

3rdAngel

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You are, I believe, deliberately not understanding. Every DAY of the week now is how many hours? Let's start there.
Guess it's hard for you. How many hours are there in each day? If you can't get that point, have a good day, evening, morning, afternoon,etc.
I suggest you do some more homework. Your post shows ignorance. Biblical time including the hours of the day were not divided up into 24 hours and are not the same as time as we know it today. This might be helpful for you from the NASA Astrophysics data system (ADS).
Take Care.
 
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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I suggest you do some more homework. Your post shows ignorance. Biblical time including the hours of the day were not divided up into 24 hours and are not the same as time as we know it today. This might be helpful for you from the NASA Astrophysics data system (ADS).
Take Care.
Days are days now. You seem to disagree that a day in the week now is 24 hours long. So again, would you say God needs a day off once a week? Now.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
You are missing my point. I don't think the seven days refer to ANY kind of time period. They are simply literary devices to create verses. I'm not expecting you to agree with me, just to understand what I'm saying.
Ok. Some here think the Bible is a fantasy type thing yet claim to be Christian. Others think similarly but claim to be Jewish. Very interesting.
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
3rdAngel said: I suggest you do some more homework. Your post shows ignorance. Biblical time including the hours of the day were not divided up into 24 hours and are not the same as time as we know it today. This might be helpful for you from the NASA Astrophysics data system (ADS).
Take Care.
Your response here...
Days are days now. You seem to disagree that a day in the week now is 24 hours long. So again, would you say God needs a day off once a week? Now.
Lets be honest here dear friend. Where did I ever post to you that today's time does not have 24 hours? If I never made that claim why pretend that this is what I believe and bear false witness which is sin? The post you are quoting from in regards to your question about 24 hours in a day was only posted to show that bible time reckoning was not the same as our time as we know it today. You never asked the question before to me, does God need a day off so why say "again" when this is the first time you are asking it? This is also misleading.

As posted to you earlier according to the scriptures and the words of Jesus, God made the Sabbath for all mankind. According to the scriptures the Sabbath commandment is a memorial of Gods creation and God made the seventh day a holy day of rest and one of Gods 10 commandments as our duty of love to God (see Mark 2:27; compare Exodus 20:8-11 and Genesis 2:1-3). You do err in your understanding of scripture if you believe we can continue in known unrepentant sin defined in the scriptures as breaking anyone of Gods 10 commandments including Gods Sabbath commandments and not believing His Word (see Hebrews 10:26-31; James 2:10-11; 1 John 3:4; John 3:36; Romans 14:23; Matthew 7:21-23).

Take Care.
 
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IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Ok. Some here think the Bible is a fantasy type thing yet claim to be Christian. Others think similarly but claim to be Jewish. Very interesting.
The Torah is a Jewish text written by Jews about Jews for Jews, but it has been appropriated by Christians.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
May I ask what parts of the "Jewish" Bible do you think are accurate and true?
By accurate, do you mean historical? I don't know where the dividing line is. Some things are very clear, like that the first 11 chapters of Genesis are myth, or that the records of Judah being conquered by Babylon are history. Other parts, its just impossible to know where the legend ends and history begins.

The thing is, it doesn't matter. All the stories in the Tanakh spiritually inspire, assist us to becoming better people, bring us closer to God, and help us understand what it means to be a Jew.
 

3rdAngel

Well-Known Member
The Torah is a Jewish text written by Jews about Jews for Jews, but it has been appropriated by Christians.
Christianity was made by Jews who believed and followed the Torah and the promised Messiah and comes from the Torah and is a continuation of it. This is what you do not understand. The promised Messiah that the Torah pointed to has already come. Its not too late to repent of your unbelief and turn back to God and believe His Word. However, that window is closing every day for all of us. We only have today. So today God is telling us all, if you will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation. We only have today. Tomorrow might be too late.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
By accurate, do you mean historical? I don't know where the dividing line is. Some things are very clear, like that the first 11 chapters of Genesis are myth, or that the records of Judah being conquered by Babylon are history. Other parts, its just impossible to know where the legend ends and history begins.

The thing is, it doesn't matter. All the stories in the Tanakh spiritually inspire, assist us to becoming better people, bring us closer to God, and help us understand what it means to be a Jew.
For instance, do you believe the account about Moses? Frankly I doubt you believe in miracles having taken place. Yet I believe that there are to be new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness (not war over "holy sites") will dwell.
Isaiah 66 - “For I will create new heavens and a new earth; the past events will not be remembered or come to mind."
Psalm 37:29 - The righteous will inherit the land and dwell in it forever.
 
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IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
For instance, do you believe the account about Moses? Frankly I doubt you believe in miracles having taken place.
I'm sure that the Law can be traced back to one original person, we can call that person Moses. How much of the story about him is historical and how much is legend, I don't know. Like I said, this question is utterly irrelevant to me.

I don't think God went through all the trouble to create the laws of nature only to break them. I think the things we say are miracles either didn't really happen, or they have natural explanations, and we just don't know what those explanations are yet.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I'm sure that the Law can be traced back to one original person, we can call that person Moses. How much of the story about him is historical and how much is legend, I don't know. Like I said, this question is utterly irrelevant to me.

I don't think God went through all the trouble to create the laws of nature only to break them. I think the things we say are miracles either didn't really happen, or they have natural explanations, and we just don't know what those explanations are yet.
The resurrection -- do you think -- ? -- will break the laws of nature?
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The resurrection -- do you think -- ? -- will break the laws of nature?
There has never been a resurrection. There are people whose hearts have stopped who have been resuscitated because the brain can be active for up to an hour after the heart stops. But this is not resurrection. This is simply that heart stoppage is not a good measure of when someone is dead.

I think you will find that I am personally completely uninterested in either the remote future or in the afterlife. I live in the here and now.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
There has never been a resurrection. There are people whose hearts have stopped who have been resuscitated because the brain can be active for up to an hour after the heart stops. But this is not resurrection. This is simply that heart stoppage is not a good measure of when someone is dead.

I think you will find that I am personally completely uninterested in either the remote future or in the afterlife. I live in the here and now.
My mother would tell me that no one has come back from the dead to tell us. But I didn't know the Bible at that time. To look forward to a better life than what we experience now is wonderful. And it's true, from the Bible. Elijah the Hebrew prophet raised a dead person. I'm not asking you to believe it. I believe it. I don't think the future is too remote, by the way.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
There has never been a resurrection. There are people whose hearts have stopped who have been resuscitated because the brain can be active for up to an hour after the heart stops. But this is not resurrection. This is simply that heart stoppage is not a good measure of when someone is dead.

I think you will find that I am personally completely uninterested in either the remote future or in the afterlife. I live in the here and now.
I'm getting the impression you don't believe in God at all.
 
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