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The masked truth....

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I never heard that. So far I know living here in this freedom means we have rights to our lives, family, what we do, and say, what we believe in and religious views. We tend to "let our children leave the house." We have autonomy in our jobs and careers. Not selfishness but independence. Why does the US get bad rep for our culture? We think of others, families, etc. We just have a different perspective on how we raise and live. I never got that about other countries thinking US has no values etc.

Because as PureX pointed out, that independence you speak of, is to some Americans(notice some) more than just that.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Well, I might have some. Because you do post about things that matter to you. But of course, you could be an act.
I notice that you prefer ad hominems to the issues.
This bespeaks weak arguments.
And now you're being cagy about my views of Ameristan,
ie, criticizing without any details. I dare you to be specific.

Newbies....some of you guys have a few
discussions, & think you know all about us.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
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YOU'RE NOT MORE VALUABLE THAN THOSE AROUND YOU -- WEAR THE DAMN MASK

Reading this on a post triggered two thoughts:

1. Yes, I am more valuable than those around me (and I will not discuss this with anyone!).

and

B. If masks work, and assuming your mask is working, what difference does it make if I wear a mask or not?

Serious, or non-serious, answers, please...

Let me explain to you how it works.
I own the air, not you. The air around me is mine. Not yours, nor the public's. So if I breathe out in to the air, that is my air and if I poison the air and you die, then that is just, because you stole my air.
Stop breathing my air!!!
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I notice that you prefer ad hominems to the issues.
This bespeaks weak arguments.
And now you're being cagy about my views of Ameristan,
ie, criticizing without any details. I dare you to be specific.

No, you set the standard. I don't care for petty details. You attack a part of the oncoming process of what to do with racism and you don't really understand all the aspects of being unequal.
But it doesn't matter, because you don't care for the details.
So if you can speak in broad terms, so can I.

See, we both learn in effect by looking at the details. The devil is in the details. But you don't want that. You have in effect done this 3 times now.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No, you set the standard. I don't care for petty details. You attack a part of the oncoming process of what to do with racism and you don't really understand all the aspects of being unequal.
But it doesn't matter, because you don't care for the details.
So if you can speak in broad terms, so can I.

See, we both learn in effect by looking at the details. The devil is in the details. But you don't want that. You have in effect done this 3 times now.
You criticize without addressing specific posts on issues.
If you disagree with a particular post of mine, tis best to
quote it in the appropriate thread, & give a reasoned response.
This is how we do things here....not derailing someone else's
thread with personal attacks.
I also advise being less contrary, but more open & inquisitive.
 
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Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Why does the US get bad rep for our culture?
I can help: the media. You see, good news does not sell newspapers. We have known this for a long time. International outlets pick up most of their information regarding US culture, politics, etc; from US news sources (makes sense). The problem is that the American media has become such a cesspool of misinformation and sensationalism, that you would be forgiven for believing that the US is, how did Trump put it... a "sh**hole" country. The reality is quite different, in my experience.

Individual Americans are actually quite charitable on an individual level (in my experience). Meaning, if my car breaks down in front of a random house, the probability of the owner of said house assisting me would be quite high. I have had numerous occasions in my tenure as an American in which I have required assistance from strangers and I have been pleasantly surprised each time.

But you don't see that on CNN, Fox, MSNBC; etc. What do you see instead? A perpetual stream of horrible things and examples of the worst that America has to offer. Sure, she makes her fair share of mistakes and no government is without corruption, but I will say that America gets harshly criticized. Some of it is earned, but some of it isn't.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
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YOU'RE NOT MORE VALUABLE THAN THOSE AROUND YOU -- WEAR THE DAMN MASK

Reading this on a post triggered two thoughts:

1. Yes, I am more valuable than those around me (and I will not discuss this with anyone!).

and

B. If masks work, and assuming your mask is working, what difference does it make if I wear a mask or not?

Serious, or non-serious, answers, please...

Got it! So it's EVERYONE'S responsibility to try and keep society safe, expect for YOU. Do you use the same logic when driving on the roadways? As long as everyone else is a defensive driver and obeys all the traffic laws, it's just fine if you decide to ignore them? Apparently you're one of those folks who insist that you have rights, but refuse to accept that you also have responsibilities.

Thanks for making it clear.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
B. If masks work, and assuming your mask is working, what difference does it make if I wear a mask or not?

There are studies about that easily available on the internet. If that's a serious question go find them. I'm not going to bother spoon feeding you an answer you can find out for yourself if you are indeed asking a serious question.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Hi
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YOU'RE NOT MORE VALUABLE THAN THOSE AROUND YOU -- WEAR THE DAMN MASK

Reading this on a post triggered two thoughts:

1. Yes, I am more valuable than those around me (and I will not discuss this with anyone!).

and

B. If masks work, and assuming your mask is working, what difference does it make if I wear a mask or not?

Serious, or non-serious, answers, please...

Was thinking if this again. The second one, I just think it's common courtesy. For example, I'm not at high risk if probably any risk other than bad luck I may catch the virus though I haven't had any other coronavirus, cold, pnemonia, or otherwise in years if not at all. But I understand people thinking I'm an asymptomatic time bomb so I wear one. My opinions doesn't make the mask less effective, it just seems to make groups mad (lack of better words) as if one night we are fine and twenty four hours later, since the news said it, we are automatically asymptomatic.

It makes sense what you're saying but then they may be saying the same thing. If they are, no one would wear masks and the risk of catching the virus would go up depending in social distancing and environment (populace).

The first, not sure how to answer that without some context in why you feel that way. Nonetheless, if you're more at risk, why not? I guess it depends on how much you know your own health. Some people feel they could be asymptomatic while others know there health insofar they go to the doctors if they recognize something funky.

It really depends. I just don't like the negativity over this mask talk. Social distancing and quint. are the best solutions. Masks probably secondary depending...

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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There are studies about that easily available on the internet. If that's a serious question go find them. I'm not going to bother spoon feeding you an answer you can find out for yourself if you are indeed asking a serious question.
Now, now....we can be of service to our fellow posters by extending a little effort.
I've offered this excellent link before.
It covers mask efficacy, & gives some enlightening info.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
You criticize without addressing specific posts on issues.
If you disagree with a particular post of mine, tis best to
quote it in the appropriate thread, & give a reasoned response.
This is how we do things here....not derailing someone else's
thread with personal attacks.
I also advise being less contrary, but more open & inquisitive.

Then answer honestly, when you learn something new about the world. Denmark is a mixed economy with traits from capitalism and communism.
And no, communism is not Marxism. Hell, Marx is no the farther of communism as such and it gets even weirder if you include anarchism.

Yes, I am not nice as you noted above. And you are apparently not willing to learn. Now what? I have issues and so do you.

So okay, I will stay within the thread. What do you think of the idea of individual rights. I.e. I have a right to do what I want to?!!

Can you explain a system of rights and duties in which BSM1 don't have the right to do that, yet there are rights as such?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yes, I am not nice as you noted above. And you are apparently not willing to learn.
I won't reward such commentary with answers.
Be civil, quote accurately, & stick to the issues.
Then, if done in the appropriate thread, you'll
get a response more to your liking.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I won't reward such commentary with answers.
Be civil, quote accurately, & stick to the issues.
Then, if done in the appropriate thread, you'll
get a response more to your liking.

Oh, no. You see I can't move this post to the other thread because you want to keep it separate. But I will do it anyway, so see you in the other thread and remember to be civil and leave up to all your own rules.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Yes, I am not nice as you noted above. And you are apparently not willing to learn. Now what?
I don't think you should be surprised when this approach does not get the results you are looking for. I don't think you are asking questions in good faith, you are trying to win (whatever that means to you). Instead of trying to make the other person look foolish, I would suggest you take a step back and ask questions with the genuine intention to learn something.
 
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