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The miracle of the Quran

Cain

Member
were where the Jews in the Egyptians age ? in the WC ? Just joking
WC? I don't get it?

look brother no one proof that these miracles already discover by Egyptians ...etc
Well, being that the Egyptians (as well as the Dogon Tribe) are several thousand years older than Islam, and that these subjects are readily available to read about in the Papyrus of Ani (Book of the Dead), Coffin / Texts, and Pyramid Texts, I would venture to say that there is 'proof'.

water is more important than the carbon , we can live without carbon or any thing else but you cant live without water
We wouldn't even be here if not for Carbon (among other elements as also mentioned), organisms can adapt to many things, I would not rule out an organism which is not reliant on H2O

Viruses are not organisms,they do not need water but they need a living host cell, this means that this host cell must contain fluids,blood ,cell sap,cytoplasm....etc.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
WC? I don't get it?
I mean by" jews were in WC" , that jews were make a **** while the other nations make their scientific histories .

Well, being that the Egyptians (as well as the Dogon Tribe) are several thousand years older than Islam, and that these subjects are readily available to read about in the Papyrus of Ani (Book of the Dead), Coffin / Texts, and Pyramid Texts, I would venture to say that there is 'proof'.
you just rewrite what you said , but by other way .
this is not a proof , give an exemple (Miracle) in the Quran and mention where is it ? in the registered history of Egyptians or the others.?

We wouldn't even be here if not for Carbon (among other elements as also mentioned), organisms can adapt to many things, I would not rule out an organism which is not reliant on H2O
there is a degree of important of the elements that God created .
what God want to tell us is the water is the most important one
NASA made big search about water (not carbon) in moon and other plantes .this is a great proof to you that the carbon is not more important than the water .

Viruses are not organisms,they do not need water but they need a living host cell, this means that this host cell must contain fluids,blood ,cell sap,cytoplasm....etc.
this is the question , is could be a lifeform in the carbon ? can anything live inside the carbon (as the water) ?
 

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
there is a degree of important of the elements that God created .

Well, I'd say that the removal of any element that would make our lives impossible makes that element just as important as any other.
Remember we are talking about elements that are important to US and other life on this planet, not just to life in general.

what God want to tell us is the water is the most important one

It is debatable whether god wants to tell us anything, or whether he exists at all, but we'll leave that for now.

NASA made big search about water (not carbon) in moon and other plantes .this is a great proof to you that the carbon is not more important than the water .

No.
This is great proof that carbon, unlike water for the most part do not form vapour in a planet's atmosphere and would thus usually be undetectable through spectroscopy.
The exception is if it is found in the form of carbon dioxide or monoxide, but this is too common to use as a marker.

this is the question , is could be a lifeform in the carbon ? can anything live inside the carbon (as the water) ?

Lifeforms do not live "inside" carbon.
It is an essential building block for live as we know it.
You could say that life IS carbon in many respects, and all the life on this planet is based on it.
 
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Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Well, I'd say that the removal of any element that would make our lives impossible makes that element just as important as any other.
Remember we are talking about elements that are important to US and other life on this planet, not just to life in general.
no one ask for remove any element , we are hear talking about ,"what is the most important thing (water or carbon ) for life" . if you suppose that you that you will travel with your family and your animals to far place , don't tell me that you will carry carbon instead of water ?
just joke


No.
This is great proof that carbon, unlike water for the most part do not form vapour in a planet's atmosphere and would thus usually be undetectable through spectroscopy.
The exception is if it is found in the form of carbon dioxide or monoxide, but this is too common to use as a marker.
you don't know the importance of Water better than Nasa i guess ?
the Nasa scientistes's made a research if there is a life in moon water polar zoons , and they did the same in Mars
NASA - Phoenix: The Search for Water


Lifeforms do not live "inside" carbon.
It is an essential building block for live as we know it.
You could say that life IS carbon in many respects, and all the life on this planet is based on it.
yes !
but can you imagine the earth without water ? we will live with carbon ?
 

jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
no one ask for remove any element , we are hear talking about ,"what is the most important thing (water or carbon ) for life" . if you suppose that you that you will travel with your family and your animals to far place , don't tell me that you will carry carbon instead of water ?
just joke

>_>

you don't know the importance of Water better than Nasa i guess ?
the Nasa scientistes's made a research if there is a life in moon water polar zoons , and they did the same in Mars
NASA - Phoenix: The Search for Water

Of course they did.
We already know that there is carbon there.
Water, especially the liquid kind, on the other hand, is a different issue.
None of that is relevant though.
We are carbon based lifeforms, and so is all other life that is known to us.
Hence, we cannot live, or be alive, without carbon.

yes !
but can you imagine the earth without water ? we will live with carbon ?

I don't know what this is supposed to mean.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Of course they did.
We already know that there is carbon there.
me don't know, how you know that ?

Water, especially the liquid kind, on the other hand, is a different issue.
None of that is relevant though.
We are carbon based lifeforms, and so is all other life that is known to us.
Hence, we cannot live, or be alive, without carbon.
we can live without carbon, maybe the trees and Herbs no .(notice that trees and herbs need water too )
I just need to clear air and water and food to live .


I don't know what this is supposed to mean.
it's clear ,it's supposed there is no live without water .
 
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jarofthoughts

Empirical Curmudgeon
me don't know, how you know that ?

No, apparently you don't know.
But since you seem to blindly accept outside authority without any form of explanation or evidential backing I assume you will accept mine just as readily.

we can live without carbon

No, we can't.

maybe the trees and Herbs no

What?

I just need to clear air and water and food to live .

And, do you think that food contains carbon?

it's clear ,it's supposed there no live .

Still makes no sense.
Suggestion: take an English course.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
ah now you notice that we talking about earth matter ?

I'm not even sure you understand half of what I'm writing at this point.
dont worry i am understand more than half ,

from translation of Quran :
21-(29)
Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water? Will they not then believe? (30)

god informe that by water everything is living , this why the life equal water , and that why Nasa made search for water in the moon , then search for a life element inside it
the carbon is a compose of material, it's compose of the body and also water and other elements ,
and that's very evidence.
 
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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
from translation of Quran :
21-(29)
Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water? Will they not then believe? (30)

god informe that by water everything is living , this why the life equal water , and that why Nasa made search for water in the moon , then search for a life element inside it
the carbon is a compose of material, it's compose of the body and also water and other elements ,
and that's very evidence.
A brilliant analysis. Well done! :rolleyes:
 

jelly

Active Member
have you ever considered carbon is a basic building block of life?
I don't say that , but I am sure that it's is not important for continous life as the water .
are you aware that it might be possible in the near future to combine carbon based lifeforms (which is pretty much every animal that I am aware of including humans that are muslim...:rolleyes:) with silica to have carbonsilicide based lifeforms that wouldn't need water?
furthermore carbonsilicide lifeforms may already exist.
 
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