There are many "Christians" who believe a lot of things that Christ never taught......so? One thing he never taught was evolution.....but the YEC's are equally wrong in their assertions about creation. They made this an "either/or" scenario when it doesn't have to be. The "Christians" who think God created evolution have sold out to peer pressure, not wanting to appear to be 'uneducated'. There is no way to blend the two. If you take the Genesis account in the original language, you get a very different scenario. It allows true science (as opposed to theoretical science) and the Bible to speak for themselves. They are in harmony, not opposition.
Yeah, yeah, no true Scotsman and all that. You say he’s not a Christian, she says you aren’t, they say he isn’t, blah, blah. Maybe let the rest of us know, once you guys have figured it out amongst yourselves. I think you’ve met your quota on logical fallacies by now.
Oh, but it is a dead end theory. If evolution is true, and we are just the product of a series of accidental unguided events that took over millions of years to get to the stage where our planet and everything on it could become extinct in a matter of hours (thanks to men of science).....which way do you want the world to end?....by its own hand, or by God's? At least with God, there will be survivors....and the earth itself will not be rendered uninhabitable. There is a future that does not depend on "intelligent" humans.
Thank God!!!
Boy, you really are pessimistic.
To me, it’s absolutely amazing that we are here at all, and we should make the most of our short time in this incredible place.
Not even in the same ball park, you should be embarrassed to compare them.
Nope. Like I explained already, they’re in the
exact same ballpark. Germ theory and the theory of evolution are both scientific theories. Both were arrived at using the same scientific methodology and standards. In fact, you could even say that evolution has
more evidence supporting it than germ theory does.
You should be embarrassed that you refuse to accept science that conflicts with your pre-conceived views of the world that were written by people who knew far, far, far less about the world than we do today – because they wrote it down in some old book.
But you guys don't blindly believe in science's interpretation of its evidence, do you?
I don’t. But I can’t speak for others.
The beauty of science is that you don’t have to blindly believe anything. As I’ve pointed out to you countless times before.
I see you’ve sidestepped the point … hmmm
I am a believer in Intelligent Design because I see it everywhere.
Believe all you want. But, if you can’t show it, you don’t
know it.
You see what I see and believe science when it tells you that we are just flukes of nature. How many unplanned flukes did it take to get us here? When do the stats become just a little too unbelievable? What are the odds of life itself arising by chance? How many zeros can you count?
I see what is there – that organisms evolve over time.
What are the odds that the specific God you believe in even exists? What are the odds of life arising by God-magic? What are the odds of any God arising at all? I can play this game too. The problem is, that you have yet to actually demonstrate anything you believe. So far, all you’ve got are assertions.
That would be nice if it were even remotely true. Poverty is under everyone's nose every time they hit the pavement of any city. Homelessness and hunger are still rampant even in affluent nations who do not take care of their poor and disadvantaged, but spend billions on weapons to kill people. In Africa and in war torn nations where there is little to address the starvation or disease, or no aid permitted to help those whose children are wasting away, what hope do you give them? Smallpox is a small problem if you are subjected to abandonment, abuse and sex trafficking in Bangladesh, India or Asia....for goodness sake! What are you talking about?
Again, wow, you certainly are pessimistic! There are people in the world, as we speak, trying to address those issues. I sure don’t see any gods doing anything about it.
I’m talking in comparison to our past. Would you really argue that we aren’t better off now than say, during the dark ages, or even the Victorian era? Because I sure wouldn’t.
Do you honestly see humans coming to the rescue? Do you ignore the problem, keep on harming the world, and hope someone else will clean up the mess? This is the reality. Humans can't address the problems because humans ARE the problem. Where is science helping?
I try to address problems and correct them, rather than avoid them. The only beings I see around anywhere who can address any problems whatsoever are us. That’s all there is.
Multiple people have pointed out the vast benefits of science to you. But you’re far too pessimistic to see them, apparently.