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The Obama Celebration Party thread

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lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
In my Opinion they will view it as a soft touch, unless proved otherwise
That's so funny. Likely you and I have seen the same pictures and heard the same stories of the entire world celebrating this U.S. election. You seem to see it as hostile forces who are anticipating a weaker U.S. in order to do their dastardly deeds. I see it as fellow human beings on this planet who are relieved that a hostile force inside the U.S. has been voted out of power.
 

texan1

Active Member
It's true that Obama has become a symbol and it will be impossible for him to live up to all that is expected. But part of why I got so emotional when he was elected is because the mere fact that he was elected by a majority of voters shows how much we as a country have ALREADY changed. Also, the fact that he has inspired so many people to get involved in the process again, to feel empowered. That is no small feat. It seems like when our parents were young - well, I can't assume the ages of everyone here on RF-but during the Civil Rights movement and during World War II, there was that sense of pulling together and making some sacrifices to help our fellow human beings and make the country a better place. I feel like Obama has helped to create that same feeling. My generation (myself included) has been living in a "me me me" world and now it seems we have the desire to become a part of something bigger. Hopefully that feeling will last and translate into positive action.
 

lilithu

The Devil's Advocate
Also, the fact that he has inspired so many people to get involved in the process again, to feel empowered. That is no small feat. It seems like when our parents were young - well, I can't assume the ages of everyone here on RF-but during the Civil Rights movement and during World War II, there was that sense of pulling together and making some sacrifices to help our fellow human beings and make the country a better place. I feel like Obama has helped to create that same feeling. My generation (myself included) has been living in a "me me me" world and now it seems we have the desire to become a part of something bigger.
I know!! :D Obama is asking for us to work hard and sacrifice for the greater good, and people are happy to hear it!! I am!! This is what Kennedy asked of us ("Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.") It's what Lincoln asked of us. It's what all great presidents/leaders have asked, for us to be the great nation and people that we want to be. And to encourage us, "Yes, we can."

Contrast that to Bush, who after 9/11 and the whole country was united in patriotism and wanting to do something meaningful for the greater good, told us to go out and "shop." :thud: Gah!! I get so mad just thinking about it!
 

Alceste

Vagabond
give me a clue someone what is going to change? i dont want to rain on your bonfire but the world is in a mess, and as much as i like Obama i wonder how he is going to live up to expectations.I think everyones is getting a little carried away her , Have a look at the news ,to change the world is going to take decades

Well, first you have to assume Obama's administration will attempt to follow through on at least some of their promises, and that the widespread testimonials regarding Obama's character are generally true. If this is the case, here are some significant changes we should see within his administration:

Increasingly, we should see diplomacy take the place of force wherever possible, responsiveness to the advice of foreign policy analysts and military professionals where diplomacy is not possible, and a general movement away from additional military conflicts (i.e. Iran), allocating military resources where they are needed most - Afghanistan. (This should interest you as someone who generally has to fight in all America's wars, however badly managed). It's likely Obama will support the UN, which will help to reestablish its international power and credibility. Other nations (like Russia) that have been getting increasingly aggressive during the Bush administration will not be able to hide behind the even more aggressive behavior of the US and the UK to justify their actions, so it's likely their aggressiveness will decrease in proportion to any increase in international diplomacy.

We should also see a general shift away from the Bush administration's unprecedented cronyism, back to the appointment of credentialed professionals who are experts in their field in agencies like the EPA, FEMA, the pentagon and the Justice Department. Candidates are more likely to be selected on their academic and professional merits than on their willingness to manipilate their work to suit the propaganda objectives of the White House press room. If this occurs the impact on public psychology will be significant. Americans have propaganda fatigue - this much is clear due to their failure to be influenced or persuaded by McCain's smear campaign. If Obama maintains his promise to "be honest about the challenges facing America", which seems likely (apart from foreign policy), therapists from coast to coast will be going out of business. A culture of intense propaganda and lack of government transparency creates intense psychological discomfort for the public, and the last 8 years in America have been downright Kafka-esque.

Apart from the above two points, I can't think of anything else that's likely to change very much, considering Obama is a centrist. But these two things are more than enough reason to post dancing party smilies, so here:

:punk::guitar1:
:clap2::cheer::jam:
:disco:
 
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Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
For whatever perverted reason, I have been humming all day Obama girl's song.. "I got a crush on Obama"

:D
 

Circle_One

Well-Known Member
So I wasn't here to celebrate on election night, but I'm here now and I just want to say how ecstatic I am that Obama won. Proof of societal evolution, if you ask me. I couldn't be more happy for him, his family, and the US as a whole.

WOOOOO!!
 

kai

ragamuffin
That's so funny. Likely you and I have seen the same pictures and heard the same stories of the entire world celebrating this U.S. election. You seem to see it as hostile forces who are anticipating a weaker U.S. in order to do their dastardly deeds. I see it as fellow human beings on this planet who are relieved that a hostile force inside the U.S. has been voted out of power.



i don't find it funny, and the pictures are interesting for about 5 seconds, but i hope you are right and i am wrong. and don't get me wrong i like the guy but all this euphoria is beginning to annoy me, i am begining to sound a little like scrooge,for that i apologize its your party enjoy!
 
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kai

ragamuffin
Well, first you have to assume Obama's administration will attempt to follow through on at least some of their promises, and that the widespread testimonials regarding Obama's character are generally true. If this is the case, here are some significant changes we should see within his administration:

Increasingly, we should see diplomacy take the place of force wherever possible, responsiveness to the advice of foreign policy analysts and military professionals where diplomacy is not possible, and a general movement away from additional military conflicts (i.e. Iran), Yes Ahmadinejad seems happy allocating military resources where they are needed most - Afghanistan. (This should interest you as someone who generally has to fight in all America's wars, however badly managed). OH yes it interests me greatly i think anything thing other than a large escalation in troop numbers will cause failure there It's likely Obama will support the UN, which will help to reestablish its international power and credibility.Reestablish what? its |International power and credibility thats a joke when did it ever have those two qualities? first thing then could be some international power and credibility in the Congo ?Other nations (like Russia) that have been getting increasingly aggressive during the Bush administration will not be able to hide behind the even more aggressive behavior of the US and the UK to justify their actions, so it's likely their aggressiveness will decrease in proportion to any increase in international diplomacy.And that is wishful thinking, Russia does as it pleases.

We should also see a general shift away from the Bush administration's unprecedented cronyism, back to the appointment of credentialed professionals who are experts in their field in agencies like the EPA, FEMA, the pentagon and the Justice Department. Candidates are more likely to be selected on their academic and professional merits than on their willingness to manipilate their work to suit the propaganda objectives of the White House press room. If this occurs the impact on public psychology will be significant. Americans have propaganda fatigue - this much is clear due to their failure to be influenced or persuaded by McCain's smear campaign. If Obama maintains his promise to "be honest about the challenges facing America", which seems likely (apart from foreign policy), therapists from coast to coast will be going out of business. A culture of intense propaganda and lack of government transparency creates intense psychological discomfort for the public, and the last 8 years in America have been downright Kafka-esque.

Apart from the above two points, I can't think of anything else that's likely to change very much, considering Obama is a centrist. But these two things are more than enough reason to post dancing party smilies, so here:
:punk::guitar1:
:clap2::cheer::jam:
:disco:


well i am a skeptic by nature but his "in tray" is waiting.
 
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Alceste

Vagabond
OH yes it interests me greatly i think anything thing other than a large escalation in troop numbers will cause failure there.

Don't know if you have been paying attention, but Obama agrees with you. That is his plan.

Reestablish what? its |International power and credibility thats a joke when did it ever have those two qualities? first thing then could be some international power and credibility in the Congo ?
The UN is a symbol of international diplomacy that everyone understands can not function with the US just doing whatever they like without international agreement, particularly since the US supplies most of the resources for any military action the UN does approve. There is a movement to reform it to be more effective (ie, reconsider the notion of permanent members with veto powers to democratize the institution). International diplomacy is not just war, or interventions in local conflicts. The UN does a lot of good work unrelated to these topics.

And that is wishful thinking, Russia does as it pleases.
In my view, Russia's increasing aggression is the direct result of the actions of the US and the UK. Of course they will do as they please when the US/UK coalition is obviously attempting (and miserably failing) to consolidate their power and influence and building permanent military bases in the middle east. It would be rather stupid to do otherwise. How do you think the UK would react if Russia was building permanent military bases in France and widely distributing policy papers stating that they intend to rule the whole world forever by force? You think the Russians can't read English?
 

Apex

Somewhere Around Nothing
i don't find it funny, and the pictures are interesting for about 5 seconds, but i hope you are right and i am wrong. and don't get me wrong i like the guy but all this euphoria is beginning to annoy me, i am begining to sound a little like scrooge,for that i apologize its your party enjoy!
You should have seen the recent episode of south park. I think they portrayed the "annoyance factor" of Obama supporters quite well. I also think all the partying is getting fairly annoying. I think we need to wait and see if this guy is going to hold to his promises. And I hope he does.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
If the party thread annoys you, don't click the link. It's really quite simple.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
You should have seen the recent episode of south park. I think they portrayed the "annoyance factor" of Obama supporters quite well. I also think all the partying is getting fairly annoying. I think we need to wait and see if this guy is going to hold to his promises. And I hope he does.

Part of the party is because we have a non-white president. That's huge. It's one of the biggest events in the history of this country. Part of the partying is for the fact that this country just took a huge step in the direction of progress and community, even if Obama is a terrible president.

Part of the party is because we've been subjected to Bush for 8 years, and we're finally free, and free also from his twin brother McCain. It's a new beginning after a terrible period in our country's history. I think that's cause for celebration, but maybe I'm just sentimental that way.

Also, I saw that episode. I guess we got different things out of it. I didn't see it at all as a commentary on the "annoyance factor" of Obama partyers.
 

Apex

Somewhere Around Nothing
If the party thread annoys you, don't click the link. It's really quite simple.
I knew I was going to get these responses. :( I wasn't talking about this thread. I guess my point is lost upon those who vehemently support Obama. Not that I don't like or support the guy, but some of his supporters were/are, in my opinion, overly animated.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
I knew I was going to get these responses. :( I wasn't talking about this thread. I guess my point is lost upon those who vehemently support Obama. Not that I don't like or support the guy, but some of his supporters were/are, in my opinion, overly animated.
Well, if you knew you were going to get such responses, why didn't you make your point more clearly? Feel free to do so now.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
I knew I was going to get these responses. :( I wasn't talking about this thread. I guess my point is lost upon those who vehemently support Obama. Not that I don't like or support the guy, but some of his supporters were/are, in my opinion, overly animated.

And of course you never expected to have to interact with such people on the "Obama victory celebration party thread" or whatever this is called....

;)
 

texan1

Active Member
I knew I was going to get these responses. :( I wasn't talking about this thread. I guess my point is lost upon those who vehemently support Obama. Not that I don't like or support the guy, but some of his supporters were/are, in my opinion, overly animated.

I have heard others say this and there are videos online making fun of Obama supporters. But honestly, I think it's just that we are so used to apathy in this country that when people actually show that they care about something or are happy about a political figure it annoys people. :)
 

stacey bo bacey

oh no you di'int
I really don't give two craps worth if I annoy you, kai or apex...grow up and stop raining on people's well-deserved parade.

We are ecstatic for all those reasons mball listed and more...

I still get these little moments during the day where I can't believe it and I am so happy...it's the hugest breath of fresh air. It's going to take awhile for it to sink in. Plenty of people around me, here and in my daily life, share my sentiment.

Party on! Wooo!!! :cheer: :trampo:
 
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