The ONLY religious question!

[djhwoodwerks]

There is no "truth" that is constant or absolute. Though for many, truth is usually just something they've decided to believe in.

The only truth for me is now. Each moment of existence. Since now is constantly changing, the truth is constantly changing. Truth is not something you can point to and say here is truth. The truth is experienced in each moment of existence. Therefore my truth is going to be different than your truth since my experience differs from yours.

How long have you had this belief?

Shouldn't this say, "though for EVERYONE, truth is something they've decided to believe in"? Or are you saying, for some, they don't get to choose what they believe in?

Then how does your post hold any weight?

If this is TRUE, then we all make our own truth. Because what people experience each moment is due to the choices we make. That's not TRUTH, that's cause and effect, action and reaction.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

I've tried my best to define god in the most logical, scientific way

The problem with most people that don't believe in God!

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Bible 'truths' are not understood by all people. and those to whom accurate understanding is given, all speak in agreement.

That leaves the witnesses out, your understanding is constantly changing! You haven't received "accurate understanding" yet.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Matthew 28:19-20. Such ones united obey the commands of Jesus, and Matthew 24:13-14 tells us how long that will continue. see John 17:17

Matthew 24:14 (ESV Strong's) 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Please search the Epistles, where the Apostles preached "the Gospel of the Kingdom" and tell us what they preached! Tell us if they preached, God's name is Jehovah, or, paradise earth.

 

[Daisies4me]

That leaves the witnesses out, your understanding is constantly changing! You haven't received "accurate understanding" yet.

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Au Contraire, mon ami--- accurate understanding allows for the scriptural prophecy of 'new light'....as the 'end' gets closer, things that were 'sealed up' until the time of the end, (Daniel 12:4) become clearer, when the 'light of truth' is shined upon them in clarification of God's Purposes for His people. What does Proverbs 4:18 tell us?
Amazingly, as 1 Corinthians 1:10 shows, all of Jehovah's worshippers globally , are in agreement, having no divisions among us, as to scriptural understanding. Who else does that? None, according to my experience in examining other faiths previous to becoming one of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses.
We are united in worship of the Only True God. (John 17:3)
You are cordially invited to come and observe any meetings held by JW's, anywhere in the world. We welcome all visitors.
(edited to correct typo)

 

[Daisies4me]

Matthew 24:14 (ESV Strong's) 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Please search the Epistles, where the Apostles preached "the Gospel of the Kingdom" and tell us what they preached! Tell us if they preached, God's name is Jehovah, or, paradise earth.

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note, please, that when the 'good news about the Kingdom of God' has been preached in 'the entire inhabited earth', what happens next? ah, yes. then the 'end' will come.
who, today, have canvased the entire earth with the 'good news about the Kingdom of God'?
suffice it to say, the standing joke around the world is 'Knock knock', etc. everyone knows who has done the global preaching work as it was assigned by Jesus to His Apostles.
It will be my pleasure to share with you the Biblical account of Jesus and His Apostles as they preached the 'good news', about the coming Kingdom of God.
Jesus summoned the 12 Apostles and divided them into pairs, making 6 teams of preachers. He then gave them clear instructions as found in Matthew 10:57. What did he there tell them to preach? He said, "as you go, preach, saying 'The Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near'," didn't he?
IN the sense that Jesus, as God's designated King, was present with them, the Kingdom was 'near' to them. Jesus empowered them to represent His Kingdom government by curing the sick and raising the dead, all of this at no charge. Jesus also warned them , after giving them excellent instructions, that they would meet many opposers. see Matthew 10:16-22. Jesus also showed his followers the need to be discreet, in order to remain free to carry out this work. vs 23 show that the work would not be completed until "the Son of man arrives". Thus, His congregations worldwide, continue the preaching and Bible education work on a global scale even today. When the glorified King Jesus Christ arrives as God's judge, the circuit of preaching will be complete.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

What does Proverbs 4:18 tell us?

Yes, what does Proverb 4:18 tell us, people that have not been deceived!

Proverbs 4:18 (ESV Strong's) 18 But the path of the righteous is like the light of dawn,
which shines brighter and brighter until full day.

The walk of a righteous one.

The walk of a righteous one is LIKE the dawn, it gets clearer and clearer how they should walk.

When the sun appears at dawn and gets brighter, is the light at 10 am NEW light, or is just BRIGHTER and makes everything more clear? The light doesn't change, does it?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

note, please, that when the 'good news about the Kingdom of God' has been preached in 'the entire inhabited earth', what happens next? ah, yes. then the 'end' will come.
who, today, have canvased the entire earth with the 'good news about the Kingdom of God'?

NOTE: if witnesses have "canvased the ENTIRE" earth with their "good news of the kingdom" why hasn't the end come yet? Apparently you're preaching the WRONG good news, huh?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

It will be my pleasure to share with you the Biblical account of Jesus and His Apostles as they preached the 'good news', about the coming Kingdom of God.
Jesus summoned the 12 Apostles and divided them into pairs, making 6 teams of preachers. He then gave them clear instructions as found in Matthew 10:57. What did he there tell them to preach? He said, "as you go, preach, saying 'The Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near'," didn't he?
IN the sense that Jesus, as God's designated King, was present with them, the Kingdom was 'near' to them. Jesus empowered them to represent His Kingdom government by curing the sick and raising the dead, all of this at no charge. Jesus also warned them , after giving them excellent instructions, that they would meet many opposers. see Matthew 10:16-22. Jesus also showed his followers the need to be discreet, in order to remain free to carry out this work. vs 23 show that the work would not be completed until "the Son of man arrives". Thus, His congregations worldwide, continue the preaching and Bible education work on a global scale even today. When the glorified King Jesus Christ arrives as God's judge, the circuit of preaching will be complete.

The old avoidance routine!

I didn't say anything about what Jesus said or did. Jesus said, "THIS good news will be preached" so, search the Epistles and tell us what the good news was that all the Apostles preached, THE EPISTLES, NOT THE GOSPELS! Starting with Acts and going thru to Revelation, what did the Apostles preach?

 

[Daisies4me]

Yes, what does Proverb 4:18 tell us, people that have not been deceived!

Proverbs 4:18 (ESV Strong's) 18 But the path of the righteous is like the light of dawn,
which shines brighter and brighter until full day.

The walk of a righteous one.

The walk of a righteous one is LIKE the dawn, it gets clearer and clearer how they should walk.

When the sun appears at dawn and gets brighter, is the light at 10 am NEW light, or is just BRIGHTER and makes everything more clear? The light doesn't change, does it?

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think about the light of dawn for a moment. say, for example, you are walking along a dirt road out in the country, with trees and no signs of people or residents around. when the dawn begins you see nothing except the small light you are using to navigate your steps. then, off in a distance, you see what appears to be a shadow, but you are unable to discern the identity of what it is you are looking at... then, as you get nearer, it appears to be a building of some sort. still not able to make out any other details---then, as light becomes brighter, and you get closer, you see that it is a house. then as the light of day becomes brighter, you can then distinguish the color of the outside of the house, that it has a porch, a fireplace, etc. . the house didn't change, did it? No, your ability to discern more indepth as to what the shadow was, happened because the light got brighter, and then you were able to see better.
Same with our 'eyes of discernment' and Scriptural understanding.
Daniel, for example, didn't understand what he wrote in the Bible Book bearing his name, did he? Neither did others, until the 'time' for it to be understood came to pass, and God then shined the 'light' of understanding on to His loyal ones who represented Him on earth.

 

[Daisies4me]

The old avoidance routine!

I didn't say anything about what Jesus said or did. Jesus said, "THIS good news will be preached" so, search the Epistles and tell us what the good news was that all the Apostles preached, THE EPISTLES, NOT THE GOSPELS! Starting with Acts and going thru to Revelation, what did the Apostles preach?

(quote) in case you missed what was said to you in the previous post , read, please, paying particular attention to Matthew 10:7, where we read, "As you go, preach, saying,'The Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near'."
So, what was to be the main thrust of their preaching?

Right-- The Kingdom of God.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

(quote)
think about the light of dawn for a moment. say, for example, you are walking along a dirt road out in the country, with trees and no signs of people or residents around. when the dawn begins you see nothing except the small light you are using to navigate your steps. then, off in a distance, you see what appears to be a shadow, but you are unable to discern the identity of what it is you are looking at... then, as you get nearer, it appears to be a building of some sort. still not able to make out any other details---then, as light becomes brighter, and you get closer, you see that it is a house. then as the light of day becomes brighter, you can then distinguish the color of the outside of the house, that it has a porch, a fireplace, etc. . the house didn't change, did it? No, your ability to discern more indepth as to what the shadow was, happened because the light got brighter, and then you were able to see better.
Same with our 'eyes of discernment' and Scriptural understanding.
Daniel, for example, didn't understand what he wrote in the Bible Book bearing his name, did he? Neither did others, until the 'time' for it to be understood came to pass, and God then shined the 'light' of understanding on to His loyal ones who represented Him on earth.

For the sake of time and picking thru your post, I'll say that I agree with some of it. But please explain how, when the light gets BRIGHTER, witnesses interpret it to mean NEW light?


Do you believe what your founder taught?

"With God there is no variableness, neither shadow of turning, and so it is with truth; any knowledge or light coming from God must be like it’s author. A new view of truth never can contradict a former truth. “New light” never extinguishes “older light” but adds to it. …So it is with the light of truth; the true increase is by adding to, not by substituting one for another." C.T. Russell

Hence, THE LIGHT GETS BRIGHTER

 

[djhwoodwerks]

(quote) in case you missed what was said to you in the previous post , read, please, paying particular attention to Matthew 10:7, where we read, "As you go, preach, saying,'The Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near'."
So, what was to be the main thrust of their preaching?

Right-- The Kingdom of God.

Why do you avoid searching and quoting what the Apostles DID preach? You seem to refuse to want to leave the Gospels to find out what was actually preached. Are you afraid? Would you like me to do it for you? I know you don't want to because it will shoot your Kingdom down. If you don't after this, I will post the quotes from the Epistles of what the Apostles DID preach.

 

[Daisies4me]

NOTE: if witnesses have "canvased the ENTIRE" earth with their "good news of the kingdom" why hasn't the end come yet? Apparently you're preaching the WRONG good news, huh?

(quote) Again, I point you to your Bible, and to Matthew 10:23. what does that say?

When you then turn over to Matthew 24:13-14, what does that say to you?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

(quote) Again, I point you to your Bible, and to Matthew 10:23. what does that say?

When you then turn over to Matthew 24:13-14, what does that say to you?

Matthew 10:23 (ESV Strong's) 23 When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next, for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

Matthew 24:13-14 (ESV Strong's) 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

It tells me, witnesses are preaching a false gospel. Witnesses brag about preaching the "Gospel" in EVERY land across the globe, which Matthew 24:14 says. Matthew 10:23 says you WON'T go thru ALL the towns before the Son of man comes, so you MUST be preaching a false gospel if the end hasn't come yet, right? I mean come on, witnesses have been preaching the "kingdom" for over 100 years and the world is still going strong!

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Why do you avoid searching and quoting what the Apostles DID preach? You seem to refuse to want to leave the Gospels to find out what was actually preached. Are you afraid? Would you like me to do it for you? I know you don't want to because it will shoot your Kingdom down. If you don't after this, I will post the quotes from the Epistles of what the Apostles DID preach.

(quote) Again, I point you to your Bible, and to Matthew 10:23. what does that say?

When you then turn over to Matthew 24:13-14, what does that say to you?

You know nothing of the Epistles, do you? That's why you are avoiding my request. You won't leave the Gospels, how come? In the Gospels, Jesus told the Apostles what to do and how to do it, the Epistles are the Apostles doing what Jesus told them to do. Check them out, you might be amazed at how deceived you've been!

 

[djhwoodwerks]

(quote) Again, I point you to your Bible, and to Matthew 10:23. what does that say?

When you then turn over to Matthew 24:13-14, what does that say to you?

I'll make it real simple for you, please quote ONE verse from the New Testament where either Jesus or one of His Disciples ever said or taught the Name Jehovah, (besides QUOTING from the Old Testament). Just one, that should be pretty easy, right?

 

[Daisies4me]

Matthew 10:23 (ESV Strong's) 23 When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next, for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

Matthew 24:13-14 (ESV Strong's) 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

It tells me, witnesses are preaching a false gospel. Witnesses brag about preaching the "Gospel" in EVERY land across the globe, which Matthew 24:14 says. Matthew 10:23 says you WON'T go thru ALL the towns before the Son of man comes, so you MUST be preaching a false gospel if the end hasn't come yet, right? I mean come on, witnesses have been preaching the "kingdom" for over 100 years and the world is still going strong!

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you are entitled to your own opinion. I see those scriptures as depicting exactly what JW's have done, as Jesus spoke to, in 240 lands that can be reported, and 31 that cannot be reported on, as we are underground due to the dangers.
Jesus gave indications that the preaching work would continue until His "return" in Kingly power over the earth, and He brings forth the Holy war of God that will cleanse the earth of all 'ungodly' ones who are against the Kingdom.
Rev. 16:14, 16.
He tells us in Matthew 24:13-14, that the time is very near now.

 

[Daisies4me]

I'll make it real simple for you, please quote ONE verse from the New Testament where either Jesus or one of His Disciples ever said or taught the Name Jehovah, (besides QUOTING from the Old Testament). Just one, that should be pretty easy, right?

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John 8:54 Matthew 6:9, John 17:26. Acts 15:14, 1John 2:12.
The preface of the Revised Standard Version explains why they removed the Name of God from their translation of the HOly Scriptures. THey admittedly follow the example of the adherents of Judaism, of whom Jesus said, "You have made the word of God invalid because of your traditions." at Matthew 15:6.
"Matthew, who is also Levi, and who from a pulican came to be an apostle, first of all composed a Gospel of Christ in Judean in the Hebrew language and characters for the benefit of those of the circumcision who had believed.." said Jerome, in the 4th century writings . This Gospel includes 11 direct quotations of portions of the Hebrew Scriptures where the Tetragrammaton is found. There is no reason to believe that Matthew did not quote the passages as they were written in the Hebrew text from which he quoted.
Most translations removed the Divine Name from where it originally appeared in the ancient manuscripts. Out of fear of the Jewish tradition that the Name of God was not to be spoken. IN direct conflict with what Jesus said, when he said in prayer to His God, Jehovah,"I have made your name known and will continue to make in known'.
Jesus prayed to His God, "our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified" (or, iows, let the reproach and falsehoods be removed, and His Name be held Holy, or revered by all.

 

[Daisies4me]

The old avoidance routine!

I didn't say anything about what Jesus said or did. Jesus said, "THIS good news will be preached" so, search the Epistles and tell us what the good news was that all the Apostles preached, THE EPISTLES, NOT THE GOSPELS! Starting with Acts and going thru to Revelation, what did the Apostles preach?

Apostles of Christ were sent forth by Him as individuals appointed by HIm to preach the gospel of the kingdom. Do you deny this to be fact according to the Holy Scriptures?

John 17:18