The Pitifully Flawed, Unreliable Judgment Behind Voting for Trump for "No War"

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Anyone who claims Trump wasn't an obvious warmonger before voting for him is a liar or a fool. The man literally advocated invading foreign nations for "humanitarian reasons" and taking half of their oil in payment. He was obviously not, nor ever was he, the choice of peace-loving voters.

Buttery males!

 

[PureX]

Many Trump voters said they elected him instead of Hillary Clinton because he was "less warlike." Now a war with Iran is basically a reality, almost entirely thanks to Trump's ill-conceived handling of foreign relations and negotiations.

This, in my opinion, is a stark reminder for anyone who knows such Trump voters to thoroughly dismiss and disregard their political judgments in the future as unreliable, irrational, and flawed. We would all be better served by ignoring their input on future matters of considerable political gravitas.

Your low-rent political decision has now resulted in unrest for many of us living thousands of miles and an ocean away. Congratulations on "making America great again."

Since warmongering was not the real reason they wouldn't vote for Hillary, Trump's warmongering, nor any of his other many lies and false promises will dissuade them. They voted for Trump because he's a republican. That's it. They believe republicans are good for their stock portfolios, or they believe republicans will punish and humiliate "liberals" who they hate because they believe liberals hate them. And neither of these beliefs are effected by ANYTHING Trump does or doesn't do.

 

[LuisDantas]

At the time of that election, you didn't offer your prediction
of this latest debacle. Don't pretend you foresaw it.

Plenty of people did. It was, you know, obvious and ululant.

We have more data now. It will affect votes in 2020.
.

At this point I would be surprised if it did.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Many Trump voters said they elected him instead of Hillary Clinton because he was "less warlike." Now a war with Iran is basically a reality, almost entirely thanks to Trump's ill-conceived handling of foreign relations and negotiations.

This, in my opinion, is a stark reminder for anyone who knows such Trump voters to thoroughly dismiss and disregard their political judgments in the future as unreliable, irrational, and flawed. We would all be better served by ignoring their input on future matters of considerable political gravitas.

Your low-rent political decision has now resulted in unrest for many of us living thousands of miles and an ocean away. Congratulations on "making America great again."

I'm starting to wonder on just who's side some people are on.

News flash. We have been at war in the middle east since those sub human losers ran planes into the world trade center.

It's high time the the entire Middle gets a makeover anyways. Besides Americans are safer now that the 'beloved' general is gone. Trump did a service to Americans and sent a strong message as well.

At least he stands up to them and tells them to don't **** with Americans. I'm sure the families that general killed are very very grateful to Trump.

Not to mention Israel, our strongest ally.

Netanyahu Praises Trump’s Assassination of Soleimani

 

[Twilight Hue]

Since warmongering was not the real reason they wouldn't vote for Hillary, Trump's warmongering, nor any of his other many lies and false promises will dissuade them. They voted for Trump because he's a republican. That's it. They believe republicans are good for their stock portfolios, or they believe republicans will punish and humiliate "liberals" who they hate because they believe liberals hate them. And neither of these beliefs are effected by ANYTHING Trump does or doesn't do.

No. We voted for Trump because he's not a pathetic limp piece of celery like the socialist Democrats are.

 

[Twilight Hue]

If a president stuck to “no war under any
circumstances” the nation would be lost
to its enemies in no time.

Or stall for time while our enemies are essentially allowed to get stronger and even more dangerous.

I'm so grateful the socialist Democrats are not in charge.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

No. We voted for Trump because he's not a pathetic limp piece of celery like the socialist Democrats are.

Who was it who killed Bin Laden, again?

 

[Stevicus]

Many Trump voters said they elected him instead of Hillary Clinton because he was "less warlike." Now a war with Iran is basically a reality, almost entirely thanks to Trump's ill-conceived handling of foreign relations and negotiations.

This, in my opinion, is a stark reminder for anyone who knows such Trump voters to thoroughly dismiss and disregard their political judgments in the future as unreliable, irrational, and flawed. We would all be better served by ignoring their input on future matters of considerable political gravitas.

Your low-rent political decision has now resulted in unrest for many of us living thousands of miles and an ocean away. Congratulations on "making America great again."

I see what you're saying, but this is not something that Trump personally caused. Our foreign and military policies have been essentially the same for several decades. Trump's main fault is in following the precedents set by his predecessors in terms of foreign policy. He claimed he would be different, that he would "drain the swamp," but he ended up still following the swamp-inspired foreign policy that all the others have followed.

It's still Trump's fault for what he's doing, but I reject the suggestion that he's any different than anyone else would have been.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Who was it who killed Bin Laden, again?

Nobody was complaining. Nobody should be complaining about what Trump decided now.

As to the specifics of your question....

Robert J O'Neill

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Nobody was complaining. Nobody should be complaining about what Trump decided now.

The point is that you're wrong about Democrats.

Admit it.

 

[Audie]

There is a useful path to peace in the vast
continuum between appeasement & war lust.

We’d hope so.

 

[Audie]

I'm not talking about "any circumstances"; this is about the specific circumstances in which General Suleimani was assassinated. And the assassination could have indeed been avoided.

Really. Then why did you go off talking about other things
and never mention what you are ostensibly talking about.

Of course, btw, it “could have been avoided”.
The USA could have avoided war with Japan too.
You could avoid paying taxes.

 

[Audie]

In context, "lashing out" and "venom" seem overly dramatic terms to describe the points I made. There's sometimes a fine line between viciousness and plain realism.

The true viciousness and venom I see are in continually defending such a corrupt and unreliable leader and demonizing his critics until he got us to this point. Few things can match how disastrous and ill-advised that is.

The drama queen lingo is noted- vicious venom corrupt demonize disastrous.

 

[tytlyf]

The MIC controls the republican party. That's why they like wars ($$).
I told republicans long before the election their 'Hillary hawk" fantasies were nothing compared to the republican party. If people would look at history, there wouldn't be a discussion.

 

[BSM1]

Considering we aren't at war and Iran took the best possible tack for them, directly aiming for no American casualties, perhaps you should reconsider your own political judgement.

When he attacked an embassy he went too far, and Iran seems to have understood that with their response. We'll see going forward.

I actually slept all night and I may have missed it, but what embassy did Trump attack?

 

[Cooky]

Iran is dangerous. The U.S. cannot just let Iran do whatever it wants without consequences.

...Doesn't matter who's president. It's the U.S. military generals who advise presidents, and they are the experts.

 

[Cooky]

I see what you're saying, but this is not something that Trump personally caused. Our foreign and military policies have been essentially the same for several decades. Trump's main fault is in following the precedents set by his predecessors in terms of foreign policy. He claimed he would be different, that he would "drain the swamp," but he ended up still following the swamp-inspired foreign policy that all the others have followed.

It's still Trump's fault for what he's doing, but I reject the suggestion that he's any different than anyone else would have been.

Surely we shouldn't drain out our military leadership. Should we?

...My gut instinct tells me that's a really bad idea.

 

[Cooky]

The MIC controls the republican party. That's why they like wars ($$).
I told republicans long before the election their 'Hillary hawk" fantasies were nothing compared to the republican party. If people would look at history, there wouldn't be a discussion.

"MIC" is just derogatory terminology for our military leadership. Eisenhower was wrong.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And I thought it wrong to vote for someone who voted to start & continue wars.
War is worse than unwanted touching....or at least it is to some of us.

I get that. How can you expect a bully who did encourage violence to not go to war?

 

[Revoltingest]

There is no error. I'm sure you know what you are doing and what you have defended before, and I certainly see no reason to apologize for calling out morally dubious political stances.

Oh, dear....I've a foe incapable of error.
Well, that explains some things.

If you're so well informed of my "dubious" stances, why
not state one to challenge? Make it a real discussion.
But no....you offer naught but vague generality.
Come on.....at least try to be interesting.

The fact that you focus on emotional appeals by repeatedly invoking words like "venom," "viciousness," and "hostility" demonstrates a lot, although it is also quite predictable and doesn't surprise me in the least.

I'm describing your tone.
Your OP was personal invective devoid of addressing serious issues.
This is wrong, & I stated why.

I've analyzed & vigorously opposed the risk of war from Trump's policies.
But you're silent on that. Instead, you fulminate over my supporting actions
which I specifically & repeatedly oppose. Tis as though you don't even read.