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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
He had four years to do that and didn't do anything but build a few hundred miles of wall that weren't very effective. He did break federal and international humanitarian laws, and separated childrn from their families.

What part of free trade includes tariffs? Many economists conclude Trump's ideas will cause massive inflation.

What taxes for the middle class does Trump intend to cut? And in what way does Trump and Vance advocate for a smaller government when they intend to round up migrants and devort them?

Like eliminating the dept of education will mean states will have to set their own standards which could mean rather dumbing down of science standards for poor red states. And the poor red states won't have federal grants anymore to help pay for education, meaning fewer resources, and more burden on schools, teachers, and parents.
None of that happened. Trump did well so far.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
No one is suggesting that. But it is nice isn't it? Meanwhile Trump is as delusional as ever and claimed that he was still ahead in the polls just yesterday.

I don't even know whether that counts as delusion anymore. Trump knows that he can pour anything out of his mind and have people around him try very hard indeed to perceive it as some sort of sage saying no matter what. The has perfected the art of "tactical compulsive lying". I would not be surprised if we come to learn that he has fully lost the ability to tell fiction (and lies) from truth; he certainly shows no evidence of having used that skill since 2014 or so.

At heart, he is just a particularly insufferable and ill-mannered thug ruining the reputation of the Hominidae Clade.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
If it was actually that bad Trump wouldn't be able to run. Clearly it's not that bad.
We thought so back in 2014 or so, remember?

We were wrong. He can run despíte indeed being that bad.

Shame for... well, for humanity as whole, really.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
We thought so back in 2014 or so, remember?

We were wrong. He can run despíte indeed being that bad.

Shame for... well, for humanity as whole, really.
I repeat , if it was actually that bad, Trump would not be able to run for office.
 

Tomef

Well-Known Member
He had four years to do that and didn't do anything but build a few hundred miles of wall that weren't very effective. He did break federal and international humanitarian laws, and separated childrn from their families.

What part of free trade includes tariffs? Many economists conclude Trump's ideas will cause massive inflation.

What taxes for the middle class does Trump intend to cut? And in what way does Trump and Vance advocate for a smaller government when they intend to round up migrants and devort them?

Like eliminating the dept of education will mean states will have to set their own standards which could mean rather dumbing down of science standards for poor red states. And the poor red states won't have federal grants anymore to help pay for education, meaning fewer resources, and more burden on schools, teachers, and parents.
More ignorance -> more Trump votes.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That’s a total phantom. Even if it were possible, which it isn’t, Trump would never fix his best vote winner. As long as there are (massively exaggerated) problems at the border, he has something to get people riled up over.
Trump wouldn't stoop that low with such backwards antics, he gets more votes for securing the border, not letting it get worse.
 

Tomef

Well-Known Member
The people who dislike/hate Trump give him more publicity than those that like him.
He is talked about every where.
Including in all the right wing press. I don’t know how you’d measure that, he doesn’t feature all that much in the press I read, although he did for a good few months back in 2016 and again in 2022.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Including in all the right wing press. I don’t know how you’d measure that, he doesn’t feature all that much in the press I read, although he did for a good few months back in 2016 and again in 2022.
Example is here. There are more threads started about Trump by people who dislike/hate him.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
If it was actually that bad Trump wouldn't be able to run. Clearly it's not that bad.
What's clear is that conservatives have committed to an unethical, corrupt, conman and can't bring themselves to understand their judgment is as poor as it is. Critics have been saying that Trump is unfit for office and most everything he has done proves those critics correct. But conservatives need to justify their commitment and sink deeper in delusion with every new example of Trump being a mentally disturbed and corrupt person. The Never Trumpers have allowed themselves to see Trump for who he is. The rest of Trump supporters have some serious introspection do to once Trimp is gone. A small portion of Trump supporters remain a serious threat to society as another Jan 6 type attack could happen if Trump loses again. There is literally nothing good that comes from Trump being involved in politics,
 
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