The principle of vibration

[YmirGF]

Friend YmirGF,



Yes, that STILLNESS of mind [thought] is what is being discussed through various posts.

Love & rgds

I see that, it just doesn't sound like folks have gotten very far away from the mud of their thinking.

A question for you, Zenzero. Have you "heard" Aum rolling out of the silence? If you did, feel free to describe what you heard.







I can.

 

[zenzero]

Frined ymirGF,

Precisely, but it all sounds so wonderful, doesn't it?

OM! SHANTI! OM!

Love & rgds

 

[zenzero]

Friend YmirGF,

I see that, it just doesn't sound like folks have gotten very far away from the mud of their thinking.

To each their own karma!

Love & rgds

 

[YmirGF]

To each their own karma!

Hehe. I don't believe in karma either.

 

[zenzero]

Friend YmirGF,

in the Mystical dictionary the word *belief* is not there!

Mystic YmirGF, what doest though say?

Love & rgds

 

[katiafish]

Hehe. I don't believe in karma either.

I dont believe ether.. I know And more I know more i dont know!

 

[Tiapan]

Under the influenece of psychedelics such as psilocybin , mescaline, or LSD, profound states of altered consciousness occur. I have concluded, they are the sum of the transient thought processes the brain entangles itself with without the filters.

Sounds and lights and the observance of something as simple as a branch of moss show that there is significance in all living things.

Cheers

 

[YmirGF]

I dont believe ether.. I know And more I know more i dont know!

I realized many years ago that I know nothing... but I do know it fairly well.








A question for you, Zenzero. Have you "heard" Aum rolling out of the silence? If you have, feel free to describe what you heard.

 

[zenzero]

Friend YmirGF,

A question for you, Zenzero. Have you "heard" Aum rolling out of the silence? If you have, feel free to describe what you heard.

Heard being heard.
Personally am yet to hear the sound AUM itself though the soundless sound is heard in the form of *sound of cricket* and in deeper modes *temple bells*.
Yes, efforts [if any] are on!

Love & rgds

 

[katiafish]

I realized many years ago that I know nothing... but I do know it fairly well.

Oh the beauty and freedom of knowing nothing

 

[Mr Cheese]

Under the influenece of psychedelics such as psilocybin , mescaline, or LSD, profound states of altered consciousness occur. I have concluded, they are the sum of the transient thought processes the brain entangles itself with without the filters.

Sounds and lights and the observance of something as simple as a branch of moss show that there is significance in all living things.

Cheers

perhaps you would gain morwe insight if you stopped using drugs....?

although, we can carry on examining, instead of "be-ing" if we like...

 

[YmirGF]

Friend YmirGF,


Heard being heard.
Personally am yet to hear the sound AUM itself though the soundless sound is heard in the form of *sound of cricket* and in deeper modes *temple bells*.
Yes, efforts [if any] are on!

Love & rgds

I thoughts so.

Tell me, my dear fellow. When you have heard that sound... then we can discuss "vibrations". Until then... this discussion is one for the crickets...

 

[zenzero]

Friend YmirGF,

thoughts so.

Tell me, my dear fellow. When you have heard that sound... then we can discuss "vibrations". Until then... this discussion is one for the crickets...

The sound of crickets and temples bells have been also confirmed as *soundless sound* besides *huu* etc. by others.
Besides crickets too are BEINGS which carries the same energy as any other in this existence and if someone wishes to leave it is again his own karma and not those of any illusionary humans.

Love & rgds

 

[Tiapan]

perhaps you would gain morwe insight if you stopped using drugs....?

although, we can carry on examining, instead of "be-ing" if we like...

Not for one second would I have had the insight to the cosmological and psychological bounds of the human psyche without the use of Sandoz LSD-25.

Very little is more profound than actually seeing your soul displayed before you.

People on "natural highs" and meditation have not got a clue compared to what I have seen.

Cheers

 

[zenzero]

Friend Tiapan,

Not for one second would I have had the insight to the cosmological and psychological bounds of the human psyche without the use of Sandoz LSD-25.

Drugs again are part of existence /reality and use of them for an experience is absolutely fine BUT not to have similar experience without it would be meaningless. Initially during college days used lots of marijuana , charas, bhang etc but left their use as soon as leaving college for good as could find the same silence any place required and within moments.
Finally one has to drop all attachments and use of drugs is one big attachment.

Love & rgds

 

[Mr Cheese]

Not for one second would I have had the insight to the cosmological and psychological bounds of the human psyche without the use of Sandoz LSD-25.

Very little is more profound than actually seeing your soul displayed before you.

People on "natural highs" and meditation have not got a clue compared to what I have seen.

Cheers

well one that has to use drugs...is lost, as they have to keep opening the door
through meditation the door may remain open whenver one wants...

There is much more than just one's "soul"....

Personally I have seen far more without drugs than with....far more
But I understand some prefer LSD...to me LSD etc is like a quick fix, a short cut, without doing any of the work... and thus ultimatly, the rewards are far lesser compared to something that is long term....

 

[zenzero]

Friends Tiapan & Cheese,

But I understand some prefer LSD...to me LSD etc is like a quick fix, a short cut, without doing any of the work... and thus ultimatly, the rewards are far lesser compared to something that is long term....

Agree true efforts are a must. Besides experiences happen on its own, one simply prepares the vessel or vehicle to receive the universal energy that finds any free space i.e. minds *without thoughts*. Drugs are only limited to its own chemical reactions and a drug free experience is permanent.

Love & rgds
Love & rgds

 

[YmirGF]

well one that has to use drugs...is lost, as they have to keep opening the door
through meditation the door may remain open whenver one wants...

what door?

There is much more than just one's "soul"....

"Just" one's soul, Cheesey? "Just..." *Giggles*

Personally I have seen far more without drugs than with....far more
But I understand some prefer LSD...to me LSD etc is like a quick fix, a short cut, without doing any of the work... and thus ultimatly, the rewards are far lesser compared to something that is long term....

But who is to say? It should be noted that I retired from the use of all external agents in 1977. My "rewards" have been more than most of my fellow human animals could possibly imagine. On that note I have managed to duplicate, if not greatly transcend, any experience generated by an external agent.

But... back to the topic. I am still just a bit leery of this "nonesense" about "vibrations". It sounds - so 1960's and wooshy gooshy.

 

[Mr Cheese]

But... back to the topic. I am still just a bit leery of this "nonesense" about "vibrations". It sounds - so 1960's and wooshy gooshy.

back to the topic....

why?

Granted we could get all hippy..and go like wow man...good vibes....pass the crystal and stuff.....

but at a fundamental level vibration is about energy and matter
surely then noting things about viibration and thing like the "sound" OM or AUM (which has many other parralells, which I am sure you know....which mostly all mean mother in some way, which always makes me smile)... we are simply acknowledging the flux and change of the universe....and that matter itself is singing, so to speak....

Or we could just stare at some goats

 

[skydivephil]

Once again I think you're putting too much faith in the modern scientific method. Just because something cannot be tested by our scientific instruments, which in the grand scheme of existence, may actually be quite crude, does not mean that it isn't so. Since you seem to be up to date on modern science you should be well aware that there exists occurrences in quantum theory, even in their own experiments, which the scientists still cannot explain. Even dark matter and energy, which you spoke of earlier, is more of a mystery to modern science than not.

We've attained a certain degree of scientific knowledge but to say that it encompasses all of existence is a naive assumption. It can be likened to those who, centuries ago, said that the world was flat, that the earth was the center of the universe and believed this without a doubt. With the scientific knowledge the individuals that believed this had, they felt this was the most logical conclusion they could make. How foolish do we think these ideas are now? I can envision a time in the future where the same view is held as to how we see things now.

You are making a straw man argument. No one is suggesting that science has all the answers , if that were the case there wouldn't be any point in doing new science. Science knows it doesn't have all the answers, but the answers that we do have come through science and answers we will get in the future will also come through science. If you think people go the shape of the earth wrong because they followed scientific method you are very mistaken. it was science that enabled us to deduce the true shape of the world, not some mystical gurus who's "not even wrong".