The prophets tell us that THE SCRIBES HAD CHANGED THE GOD'S LAW

[Tumah]

Actually, I can deny it --- but then I know Hebrew and you don't. But even if I were to accept the translation, it still, in context, does not say what you think it says. As long as you pretend that it is possible to read a verse in a vacuum, without regard to person, time and place you'll never get it right.

Apparently my skill as a writer is insufficient to convince you of the need to conduct further inquiry, to expand your knowledge, so I will leave you to play happily in the little box you have locked yourself into.

It's about time!

I've found there to be a relationship between posters that use many colors and an inability to have any sort of meaningful exchange.

 

[CMike]

It isn't mi understanding. Simply the verses from Jeremiah 8:7-8 say that God's law was changed by the scribes. And this is written and you can not deny it.

The Gospel is which gives us the true Law that God gave to Moses. And is the gospel what must follow all peoples of the world.

There is no longer Jew or Greek, nor Roman, because the Gospel is God's law for all towns of the world:

"Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned". (Mark 16:15-16)

G-D warned about scribes whom can try and change jewish law. Some of these people may be Christians.

The Torah was from G-D and the prophets were from the individual prophets. The prophets also didn't make law, they by definition prophesized.

However you can't deny that jesus said that anyone whom doesn't want to be reigned/ruled over by jesus, jesus said should be slain before him.



Talk about a power trip.

 

[Scimitar]

Didn't Moses rally for the killing of Jews after he came down from Sinai with the ten commandments - only to discover a part of his flock had made a golden calf and were worshipping it?

Talk about power trip advocative eh?

 

[Prophet]

Didn't Moses rally for the killing of Jews after he came down from Sinai with the ten commandments - only to discover a part of his flock had made a golden calf and were worshipping it?

Talk about power trip advocative eh?

You clearly don't understand what the Torah is saying. Those were evil Jews following Satan. God says it is good to kill evil.

 

[dantech]

It's about time!

I've found there to be a relationship between posters that use many colors and an inability to have any sort of meaningful exchange.

Many colors and often,

Weird fonts with raNdom capiTals

 

[Tumah]

Many colors and often,

Weird fonts with raNdom capiTals

That's what I said.

 

[CMike]

Didn't Moses rally for the killing of Jews after he came down from Sinai with the ten commandments - only to discover a part of his flock had made a golden calf and were worshipping it?

Talk about power trip advocative eh?

No. He did what G-D said. Moses never claimed to be a divine being or anything of the sort.

In fact, when we have Passover, we read the entire lengthy Passover story.

Even though Moses had a central role, he was mentioned only once, and as a "humble servant".

Moses was the complete opposite of having a power trip.

Jesus could have learned from the example of Moses.

 

[dantech]

Jesus could have learned from the example of Moses.

He'd have to have power to begin with...

Good night ladies and gentlemen, dont forget to tip your waitress.
*drops mic*

 

[Prophet]

Jesus could have learned from the example of Moses.

Moses has much to teach us all on the bamboozling of simpletons.

And the Lord said to Moses, “Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow. Have them wash their clothes 11 and be ready by the third day, because on that day the Lord will come down on Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people. 12 Put limits for the people around the mountain and tell them, ‘Be careful that you do not approach the mountain or touch the foot of it. Whoever touches the mountain is to be put to death. 13 They are to be stoned or shot with arrows; not a hand is to be laid on them. No person or animal shall be permitted to live.’ Only when the ram’s horn sounds a long blast may they approach the mountain.”

So what Moses, you mean anyone who investigates Mt. Sinai for what's really going on up there must be put to death summarily without hearing a word from his mouth? And GOD told you this?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

 

[CMike]

Moses has much to teach us all on the bamboozling of simpletons.

Having G-D watch your back kind of helped, as well as all the miracles G-D just performed.

At least Moses never claimed to be anything other than a human being.

So what Moses, you mean anyone who investigates Mt. Sinai for what's really going on up there must be put to death summarily without hearing a word from his mouth? And GOD told you this?!

Confidence trick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No. You can go and investigate Sinai.

Wikipedia is not a legitimate source for anything concerning Judaism.

 

[Prophet]

Having G-D watch your back kind of helped, as well as all the miracles G-D just performed.

At least Moses never claimed to be anything other than a human being.

Moses was a con artist who manipulated simpletons into believing he was a representative of God. The story of the Ten Commandments is every bit as suspect as Joseph Smith's story about the golden plates or any of L. Ron Hubbard's "history" books.

No. You can go and investigate Sinai.

I'm obviously talking about a long past situation. So, actually I cannot.

Wikipedia is not a legitimate source for anything concerning Judaism.

Wikipedia is a rich source for information for information about many things including religions and confidence tricks. I wasn't citing the source. I was just leaving you some valuable information about confidence tricks as you seem particularly vulnerable.

 

[Porque77]

Actually, I can deny it --- but then I know Hebrew and you don't. But even if I were to accept the translation, it still, in context, does not say what you think it says. As long as you pretend that it is possible to read a verse in a vacuum, without regard to person, time and place you'll never get it right.

You can say whatever you want, but the Christian scriptures are translated from the Greek text, the earliest we have of the words of the prophets.

The Hebrew text disappeared when the emperors of Rome destroyed the temple.

The Christians retained the wording of SEVENTY elderly (the Septuagint), and this text written in Greek is the oldest scripture.

Jeremiah says that God's law was changed, and this is written in the Greek scriptures. And that is confirmed by Jesus Christ when he said that the Jews taught precepts of men. And Jesus confirms these things when He abolished many commandments of the Old Testament.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Well, that's what you say. But Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth and the life". These words tell us clearly that Jesus Christ is God. Then, He had all authority.

I do not see that Jesus Christ came to change the law of God. What I see is that Jesus Christ came to show us the true Law of God.

I agree

 

[dantech]

I understood the question perfectly. But I say you are who does not understand that Jesus Christ gives the true Law. So I wrote this the Gospel says.

The Gospel says:

"Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets" (Matthew 7: 12)

Jesus Christ says that this is the Law. Then?...

He was simply quoting one of our greatest Jewish teachers. That sentence does not abolish or permanently fulfill the other laws, in any way.

 

[metis]

The Hebrew text disappeared when the emperors of Rome destroyed the temple.

You honestly believe that there was only one copy of Torah? What do you think were at the numerous synagogues during Jesus' time, and what Jesus read from at one of them? It certainly wouldn't have been from the Alexandrian text.

 

[CMike]

Moses was a con artist who manipulated simpletons into believing he was a representative of God. The story of the Ten Commandments is every bit as suspect as Joseph Smith's story about the golden plates or any of L. Ron Hubbard's "history" books.



I'm obviously talking about a long past situation. So, actually I cannot.



Wikipedia is a rich source for information for information about many things including religions and confidence tricks. I wasn't citing the source. I was just leaving you some valuable information about confidence tricks as you seem particularly vulnerable.

That all the jewish people heard G-D's voice kind of helped too.

 

[CMike]

You can say whatever you want, but the Christian scriptures are translated from the Greek text, the earliest we have of the words of the prophets.

The Hebrew text disappeared when the emperors of Rome destroyed the temple.

The Christians retained the wording of SEVENTY elderly (the Septuagint), and this text written in Greek is the oldest scripture.

Jeremiah says that God's law was changed, and this is written in the Greek scriptures. And that is confirmed by Jesus Christ when he said that the Jews taught precepts of men. And Jesus confirms these things when He abolished many commandments of the Old Testament.

Yeah...it was changed by christians. Jews ignored the incorrect changes

The hebrew text didn't dissapear for jews. They kept using it since the time of Moses.

 

[RabbiO]

You can say whatever you want, but the Christian scriptures are translated from the Greek text, the earliest we have of the words of the prophets.

The Hebrew text disappeared when the emperors of Rome destroyed the temple.

The Christians retained the wording of SEVENTY elderly (the Septuagint), and this text written in Greek is the oldest scripture.

Jeremiah says that God's law was changed, and this is written in the Greek scriptures. And that is confirmed by Jesus Christ when he said that the Jews taught precepts of men. And Jesus confirms these things when He abolished many commandments of the Old Testament.

The legend regarding the Septuagint, the 72 sages who did the translation, only refers to the Torah, not the rest of the Tanakh. Nor is there anything about the translators being elderly.

The Hebrew texts did not disappear at the time of the destruction of the 2nd Temple.

Every time I think I'll give it another shot at trying to communicate with you I wind up dismayed over both your ignorance and your undeterred determination to remain ignorant.

 

[Tumah]

The legend regarding the Septuagint, the 72 sages who did the translation, only refers to the Torah, not the rest of the Tanakh. Nor is there anything about the translators being elderly.

The Hebrew texts did not disappear at the time of the destruction of the 2nd Temple.

Every time I think I'll give it another shot at trying to communicate with you I wind up dismayed over both your ignorance and your undeterred determination to remain ignorant.

What are you talking about?!?! You've made a ton of progress!! He's not typing in colors anymore!!

Don't sell yourself short!

 

[Prophet]

That all the jewish people heard G-D's voice kind of helped too.

What also helped is that they weren't allowed to see what Moses had set up on the mountain to fake God's presence. The Jews in here have no place talking down to porque77 as you all are highly hypocritical in your own denials of reason where you perceive them to be to your benefit. You're judging with a double-standard.