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The prophets tell us that THE SCRIBES HAD CHANGED THE GOD'S LAW

Porque77

The Gospel is God's Law
The point is that you got things backwards.

Just repeating the same lies doesn't make it true.

Gobbles proved that.

Look, buddy. Imagine that I know nothing of religion, and I read the Old Testament and then I read the Gospel ... What could happen to me?...

The thing is very easy ... That's what happened to me, but in reverse. I first met the Gospel and then I met the Old Testament and saw that the gospel is love and mercy, and the laws of the Old Testament were hatred, slavery, wars death sentences. The difference was very large.

Since then, I realized that the only Word of God was the Word of Jesus Christ written in the Gospel.

Sorry, but my way is Jesus Christ and there is no return.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
Your kidding?

The Christian bible is filled with hate.

It also about worshipping a false god also know as idol worship.

The Jewish bible is filled with love and ethics.
 

Scimitar

Eschatologist
A Jew and a Christian arguing over which book holds more love :D this is funny.

Ok ok, first of all - both were revealed knowledge from God... which over time was corrupted.

You can ask me for proof and I willl ask you "why are there so many versions of the NT" and "why is the Torah a book full of re-edits?"

Surely God does not make mistakes.

And the proof of that is "The Quran". Not even a letter has been changed since its revelation...

...and here I find a Jewish brother and a Christian brother arguing over words of love... tell me, do your books contain verses which promote understanding (which can only come from love and compassion) such as these?

"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

"...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

"O you who believe! Be helpers of God -- as Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, 'Who will be my helpers in (the work of) God?' Said the disciples, 'We are God's helpers!' Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved. But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed" (61:14).


The answer is a clear NO....

....are your hearts truly blinded by light instead of being enlightened by it?

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Tali018

Member
Since then, I realized that the only Word of God was the Word of Jesus Christ written in the Gospel.

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Go back to the FIRST post of this thread ans read it a few times. Due to numerous items not matching up from Aramaic to Hebrew to Greek to English, many words have been changed/added/deleted plus on top of the scribes in each generation added in their own views and changed it. The only who can prove it you is you. So unless yon read it in its original (or close to) then you are blindly following a translation that is possibly very different from its original form. You are going against the grain of logic of why only four gospels went into the NT as even they knew there were things that didn't line up.
 

Tali018

Member
A Jew and a Christian arguing over which book holds more love :D this is funny.

Ok ok, first of all - both were revealed knowledge from God... which over time was corrupted.

You can ask me for proof and I willl ask you "why are there so many versions of the NT" and "why is the Torah a book full of re-edits?"

Surely God does not make mistakes.

And the proof of that is "The Quran". Not even a letter has been changed since its revelation...

You seem to also fall under the same issue of what was written in post #1. Do you not understand why it was stated in order to understand the Quran is to read it in it's original language and form so there is no loss in translation. This was put in because they knew the scribes would and have made adjustments through the generations. Some of changes are barely noticeable, but they are there. How do you think the salutation of Al Ileh became Allah? How do you think the line that states in the original form as saying the names of god was written as 100 minus 1 to now being stated as the 99 names of god? Neither is the same.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
Look, buddy. Imagine that I know nothing of religion, and I read the Old Testament and then I read the Gospel ... What could happen to me?...

The thing is very easy ... That's what happened to me, but in reverse. I first met the Gospel and then I met the Old Testament and saw that the gospel is love and mercy, and the laws of the Old Testament were hatred, slavery, wars death sentences. The difference was very large.

Since then, I realized that the only Word of God was the Word of Jesus Christ written in the Gospel.

Sorry, but my way is Jesus Christ and there is no return.

Yeah, lots of love.

ANTI-SEMITISM IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

“The children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” (Matthew 8.12)

“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold your house is left unto you desolate.” (Matthew 23.37,38)

Then answered all the people (Jews) and said, “His blood be on us and on our children” (Matthew 27:25).

1 “But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you to councils, and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten” (Mark 13.9)

“He that believeth not shall be damned” (Mark 16.16)

“Ye are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And I say the truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God” (John 8.43-47)

“Stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so you do. Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which showed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers” (Acts 7.51-53)

“It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing you put it from you and judge yourself unworthy of everlasting life, we turn to the Gentiles” (Acts 13.45-51)

“For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake ... wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.” (Titus 1.10-14).

“The Jews, who both killed the Lord Jesus and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God and are contrary to all men: forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.” (l Thessalonians 2.14-16)

“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is an antichrist, that denieth the father and the son. Whoever denieth the son, the same hath not the father” (l John 2.22,23)

“I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan ...” (Revelation 2.9,10)

“Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews and are not but do lie; behold I will make them to come and worship before thy feet...” (Revelation 3.9)
 
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CMike

Well-Known Member
More love

No wonder so many christians mass murdered jews.


ANTI-SEMITISM IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

Origen: “Their rejection of Jesus has resulted in their present calamity and exile. We say with confidence that they will never be restored to their former condition. For they have committed a crime of the most unhallowed kind, in conspiring against the saviour.”

St. Gregory: “ Jews are slayers of the Lord, murderers of the prophets, enemies of God, haters of God, adversaries of grace, enemies of their fathers’ faith, advocates of the devil, brood of vipers, slanderers, scoffers, men of darkened minds, leaven of the Pharisees, congregation of demons, sinners, wicked men, stoners and haters of goodness.”

St. Jerome: “....serpents, haters of all men, their image is Judas ... their psalms and prayers are the braying of donkeys..”


St. John Chrysostom: “I know that many people hold a high regard for the Jews and consider their way of life worthy of respect at the present time... This is why I am hurrying to pull up this fatal notion by the roots ... A place where a whore stands on display is a whorehouse. What is more, the synagogue is not only a whorehouse and a theater; it is also a den of thieves and a haunt of wild animals ... not the cave of a wild animal merely, but of an unclean wild animal ... When animals are unfit for work, they are marked for slaughter, and this is the very thing which the Jews have experienced. By making themselves unfit for work, they have become ready for slaughter. This is why Christ said: “ask for my enemies, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them and slay them before me’ (Luke 19.27).”


St. Augustine: “Judaism is a corruption. Indeed Judas is the image of the Jewish people. Their understanding of the Scriptures is carnal. They bear the guilt for the death of the saviour, for through their fathers they have killed the Christ.”


St. Thomas Aquinas: “It would be licit to hold Jews, because of the crimes, in perpetual servitude, and therefore the princes may regard the possessions of Jews as belonging to the State.”
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
Here are some of th 613 commandments in the Torah.

Love and Brotherhood

  1. To love all human beings who are of the covenant (Lev. 19:18) (CCA60). See Love and Brotherhood.
  2. Not to stand by idly when a human life is in danger (Lev. 19:16) (CCN82). See Love and Brotherhood.
  3. Not to wrong any one in speech (Lev. 25:17) (CCN48). See Speech and Lashon Ha-Ra.
  4. Not to carry tales (Lev. 19:16) (CCN77). See Speech and Lashon Ha-Ra.
  5. Not to cherish hatred in one's heart (Lev. 19:17) (CCN78). See Love and Brotherhood.
  6. Not to take revenge (Lev. 19:18) (CCN80).
  7. Not to bear a grudge (Lev. 19:18) (CCN81).
  8. Not to put any Jew to shame (Lev. 19:17) (CCN79).
  9. Not to curse any other Israelite (Lev. 19:14) (by implication: if you may not curse those who cannot hear, you certainly may not curse those who can) (CCN45).
  10. Not to give occasion to the simple-minded to stumble on the road (Lev. 19:14) (this includes doing anything that will cause another to sin) (CCN76).
  11. To rebuke the sinner (Lev. 19:17) (CCA72).
  12. To relieve a neighbor of his burden and help to unload his beast (Ex. 23:5) (CCA70). See Love and Brotherhood.
  13. To assist in replacing the load upon a neighbor's beast (Deut. 22:4) (CCA71). See Love and Brotherhood.
  14. Not to leave a beast, that has fallen down beneath its burden, unaided (Deut. 22:4) (CCN183). See Love and Brotherhood.
The Poor and Unfortunate

  1. Not to afflict an orphan or a widow (Ex. 22:21) (CCN51).
  2. Not to reap the entire field (Lev. 19:9; Lev. 23:22) (negative) (CCI6).
  3. To leave the unreaped corner of the field or orchard for the poor (Lev. 19:9) (affirmative) (CCI1).
  4. Not to gather gleanings (the ears that have fallen to the ground while reaping) (Lev. 19:9) (negative) (CCI7).
  5. To leave the gleanings for the poor (Lev. 19:9) (affirmative) (CCI2).
  6. Not to gather ol'loth (the imperfect clusters) of the vineyard (Lev. 19:10) (negative) (CCI8).
  7. To leave ol'loth (the imperfect clusters) of the vineyard for the poor (Lev. 19:10; Deut. 24:21) (affirmative) (CCI3).
  8. Not to gather the peret (grapes) that have fallen to the ground (Lev. 19:10) (negative) (CCI9).
  9. To leave peret (the single grapes) of the vineyard for the poor (Lev. 19:10) (affirmative) (CCI4).
  10. Not to return to take a forgotten sheaf (Deut. 24:19) This applies to all fruit trees (Deut. 24:20) (negative) (CC10).
  11. To leave the forgotten sheaves for the poor (Deut. 24:19-20) (affirmative) (CCI5).
  12. Not to refrain from maintaining a poor man and giving him what he needs (Deut. 15:7) (CCN62). See Tzedakah: Charity.
  13. To give charity according to one's means (Deut. 15:11) (CCA38). See Tzedakah: Charity.
Business Practices

  1. Not to do wrong in buying or selling (Lev. 25:14) (CCN47).
  2. Not to make a loan to an Israelite on interest (Lev. 25:37) (CCN54).
  3. Not to borrow on interest (Deut. 23:20) (because this would cause the lender to sin) (CCN55).
  4. Not to take part in any usurious transaction between borrower and lender, neither as a surety, nor as a witness, nor as a writer of the bond for them (Ex. 22:24) (CCN53).
  5. To lend to a poor person (Ex. 22:24) (even though the passage says "if you lend" it is understood as obligatory) (CCA62).
  6. Not to demand from a poor man repayment of his debt, when the creditor knows that he cannot pay, nor press him (Ex. 22:24) (CCN52).
  7. Not to take in pledge utensils used in preparing food (Deut. 24:6) (CCN58).
  8. Not to exact a pledge from a debtor by force (Deut. 24:10) (CCN59).
  9. Not to keep the pledge from its owner at the time when he needs it (Deut. 24:12) (CCN61).
  10. To return a pledge to its owner (Deut. 24:13) (CCA63).
  11. Not to take a pledge from a widow (Deut. 24:17) (CCN60).
  12. Not to commit fraud in measuring (Lev. 19:35) (CCN83).
  13. To ensure that scales and weights are correct (Lev. 19:36) (affirmative).
  14. Not to possess inaccurate measures and weights (Deut. 25:13-14) (CCN84).
 

Scimitar

Eschatologist
You seem to also fall under the same issue of what was written in post #1. Do you not understand why it was stated in order to understand the Quran is to read it in it's original language and form so there is no loss in translation. This was put in because they knew the scribes would and have made adjustments through the generations. Some of changes are barely noticeable, but they are there. How do you think the salutation of Al Ileh became Allah? How do you think the line that states in the original form as saying the names of god was written as 100 minus 1 to now being stated as the 99 names of god? Neither is the same.

Such a shame that the last shred of Aramaic speaking peoples were dispersed in other lands from their home town of Maloula (Syria) then isnt it?

As for your keen observation that Arabic is still a preserved language, the Quran memorised by heart by tens of millions of Muslims.... yet I've yet to hear of one Christian of Jew who has memorised their scripture in its entirety...

...you see, Allah has blessed the Muslims with a miracle - the Quran - lit. "The Recital".... so even if some BIG agency out there wanted to change the Quran, they'd have to change the hearts of tens of millions of Muslims, and not just some edits in a publishing house, as per Christianities woes...

...God never promised the Jews nor the Christians that HE would preserve their scriptures, no... God specifically told you in your scriptures that a NEW LAW WILL COME... yet you all cleverly and conveniently seem to bypass that part because it would put you on the back foot.

God promised Muhammad peace be upon him, that HE would protect the Quran, til the day of judgement. 1435 years have elapsed man... think about it.

The truth is, the Quran has not changed, and I am reading a Jew and a Christian trying to claim their book has more verses of love in them... and so far, you havent replied to my question, where I asked if your scriptures have lovely ideas and promotes peace between members of the Abrahamic faiths?

You couldn't answer because (as much as you claim your scriptures have verses on love) they don't have any which promote the ideals of love - ie: tolerance towards people from other faiths... the contexts themselves are skewed and this is why you go round in circles.

What really makes me giggle though, is that some moron on this forum will copy pasta verses from the Quran out of context, such as "kill them wherever ye may find them" - not realising that the context is meant for self defence against oppressors who come to take your life, land, wealth away from you.

This is what really makes me giggle.

As a Muslim, I see now why many Muslims prefer to keep quiet after they've said their bit... its because their "bit" was an invitation to the truth which got torn up without even being read.

So us Muslims are reminded of the verses in the Quran which speak about such people who would throw away the good behind their back in lieu of their own ego's...

...I hope you all are open to the truth, and not like those mentioned in the Quran. The Real Losers.

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Tali018

Member
A Jew and a Christian arguing over which book holds more love :D this is funny.

Ok ok, first of all - both were revealed knowledge from God... which over time was corrupted.

You can ask me for proof and I willl ask you "why are there so many versions of the NT" and "why is the Torah a book full of re-edits?"

Surely God does not make mistakes.

And the proof of that is "The Quran". Not even a letter has been changed since its revelation...

...and here I find a Jewish brother and a Christian brother arguing over words of love... tell me, do your books contain verses which promote understanding (which can only come from love and compassion) such as these?

"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

"...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

"O you who believe! Be helpers of God -- as Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, 'Who will be my helpers in (the work of) God?' Said the disciples, 'We are God's helpers!' Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved. But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed" (61:14).


The answer is a clear NO....

....are your hearts truly blinded by light instead of being enlightened by it?

Scimitar

I think it's sad when a supposed Muslim has to use dots to make their Surats fit their agenda. And what's worse the translations are either off or wrong.

So I will include links to the entire Surat and the entire Surah so others may see the missing/incorrect words so the context of it may be understood.

The Noble Qur'an - ?????? ??????

(2) Surat Al-Baqarah - The Noble Qur'an - ?????? ??????
(5) Surat Al-Ma'idah - The Noble Qur'an - ?????? ??????
(61) Surat As-Saf - The Noble Qur'an - ?????? ??????

I guess this servant of Allah missed the part about loss in translation.
http://www.al-islam.org/articles/quranic-lessons
 
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Tali018

Member
Scimitar, If you're going to act like an adult then I will discuss the topic of this thread with you. But if you are going to act like a ranting child then I won't. FWIW I'm fluent in Levant Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew and English.
 

Porque77

The Gospel is God's Law
The Christian bible is filled with hate.
True Christian Bible is actually only the Gospel, which is the true teaching of the Christians. And in the Gospel there is no hate but love. Christians should consider the other scriptures in the light of the Gospel, and must understand that everything what contradict the Gospel is not true Christian teaching.

Thus, we can see that many laws of the Old Testament are contrary to the Gospel and were abolished by Jesus Christ, therefore, those laws were not true Law of God because Jesus came not to abolish the true law of God. All what Jesus abolished from the old testament (and the Tanakh) were only precepts of men.


It also about worshipping a false god also know as idol worship.
That's what thought many Jews, and they ordered that Jesus Christ was crucified, so they killed the Author of Life. At that time many Jews did not accept that Jesus Christ was God, and now many continue without accepting it. But Jesus Christ was God become ​​Man.

The Jewish bible is filled with love and ethics.
Do you call "love" to the precepts that command slavery, wars, stoning people to death, etc.? You do not tell the truth. The Gospel is the one that really teaches love and forgiveness:

"If you had known what this means, I want mercy and not sacrifice, you wouldn’t have condemned the innocent" (Matthew 12: 7)

Jesus commanded to forgive seventy times seven:

"Then Peter came and said: Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Till seven? Jesus said: I tell you, not seven times, but seventy times seven." (Matthew 18: 21-22)

 
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Tali018

Member
True Christian Bible is actually only the Gospel, which is the true teaching of the Christians. And in the Gospel there is no hate but love. Christians should consider the other scriptures in the light of the Gospel, and must understand that everything what contradict the Gospel is not true Christian teaching.



When in history have the Jews done anything even close to the Crusades?
 

Scimitar

Eschatologist
Scimitar, If you're going to act like an adult then I will discuss the topic of this thread with you. But if you are going to act like a ranting child then I won't. FWIW I'm fluent in Levant Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew and English.

Act like an adult? what part of my previous post was childish? you're clearly confusing me with some one else or you are on the back foot here tali - you don't want to discuss the horrendous nature of the talmud - so obvious.

You're the one who is being childish by refusing to debate me here.

You say you are fluent in the old languages - good for you. You should have no problem addressing the context of the Talmud then right?

Bring it :) rise to it... surely you have the conviction of your faith? :D
 

Scimitar

Eschatologist
True Christian Bible is actually only the Gospel, which is the true teaching of the Christians. And in the Gospel there is no hate but love. Christians should consider the other scriptures in the light of the Gospel, and must understand that everything what contradict the Gospel is not true Christian teaching.

Thus, we can see that many laws of the Old Testament are contrary to the Gospel and were abolished by Jesus Christ, therefore, those laws were not true Law of God because Jesus came not to abolish the true law of God. All what Jesus abolished from the old testament (and the Tanakh) were only precepts of men.

So was the NT - MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE AND JOHN... anonymous characters - you believe in a book which has no credible author - but 4 random men.

In Islam, we call this a very weak book of ahadeeth - meaning, narratives. The reason for the weakness is the case of the NT is that there are 1) no credible authors whom we know anything about
2) too many versions each promoting a slightly different theology
3) interpolation galore - proven by over 50 Christian denominations

oh I can go on but you get the picture.

The point I'm making is, anyone can write a book and have ideals of love within it... it doesn't make it credible does it? A serial killer might right a book like that.

True Revealed Scripture, which has withstood the test of time, The Quran, wins more converts to Islam than any religion in the world, the fastest growing religion in the world despite the media storm on Islam and Muslims in general - proves that TRUTH PREVAILS.

Scimi
 

Tali018

Member
You should have no problem addressing the context of the Talmud then right?

Bring it :) rise to it... surely you have the conviction of your faith? :D

I can discuss the Talmud (which one?), but in my POV it's a book of opinions as much as the Hadith is. Its an expansion on what the Torah says, but in no way is it totally correct. For example the Sabbath states the 7th day is a day of not doing things related to work. Pretty easy to understand. I didn't need some person to create me an additional 39 things I cannot do on a day of rest and turn it into a day of burden. The Torah is mostly in Aramaic using Hebrew letters and thus most of the words are not used conversationally. But this thread is not about the Talmud. Now is it? And there no where I really typed words that I wanted to discuss it. But if you have questions related to it, go ahead and ask.
 

Scimitar

Eschatologist
If you don't mind, I will - why does the talmud(s) claim the following?

And can you explain the contexts please?

To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be
equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about
them, they would kill us openly.

Libbre David 37


A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books
contain anything against them.

Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17


When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves.

Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D


On the house of the Goy one looks as on the fold of cattle.

Tosefta, Tractate Erubin VIII


When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same
Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall
be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to
no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it.

Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156


If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the
Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the
face of the earth.

Choschen Hamm 388, 15


That the Jewish nation is the only nation selected by God, while all the
remaining ones are contemptible and hateful.

That all property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which
consequently is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox
Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other
tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews
in general.

A Jew may rob a Goy, he may cheat him over a bill, which should not be
perceived by him, otherwise the name of God would become dishonoured.

Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat, 348


If a goy killed a goy or a Jew he is responsible, but if a Jew killed a goy
he is not responsible.

Tosefta, Aboda Zara, VIII, 5


Kill the Goyim by any means possible.

Choshen Ha´mishpat 425:50


Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice.

Zohar, Shemoth


Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to
be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form,
and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.

Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L


A Jew may do to a non-Jewess what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a
piece of meat.

Hadarine, 20, B; Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348


A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl.

Gad. Shas. 2:2


Do not save Goyim in danger of death.

Show no mercy to the Goyim.

Hilkkoth Akum X1

Your help will be appreciated.

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Tali018

Member
If you don't mind, I will - why does the talmud(s) claim the following?

And can you explain the contexts please?

To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be
equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about
them, they would kill us openly.

Libbre David 37


A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books
contain anything against them.

Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17


When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves.

Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D


On the house of the Goy one looks as on the fold of cattle.

Tosefta, Tractate Erubin VIII


When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same
Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall
be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to
no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it.

Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156


If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the
Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the
face of the earth.

Choschen Hamm 388, 15


That the Jewish nation is the only nation selected by God, while all the
remaining ones are contemptible and hateful.

That all property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which
consequently is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox
Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other
tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews
in general.

A Jew may rob a Goy, he may cheat him over a bill, which should not be
perceived by him, otherwise the name of God would become dishonoured.

Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat, 348


If a goy killed a goy or a Jew he is responsible, but if a Jew killed a goy
he is not responsible.

Tosefta, Aboda Zara, VIII, 5


Kill the Goyim by any means possible.

Choshen Ha´mishpat 425:50


Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice.

Zohar, Shemoth


Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to
be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form,
and condemned to serve the Jew day and night.

Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L


A Jew may do to a non-Jewess what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a
piece of meat.

Hadarine, 20, B; Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348


A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl.

Gad. Shas. 2:2


Do not save Goyim in danger of death.

Show no mercy to the Goyim.

Hilkkoth Akum X1

Your help will be appreciated.

Scimitar

All of them are fake quotes. Even most of the books and chapters don't exist. All are fabrications.

Hence the following links
Jewish Talmudic Quotes - Facts Are Facts
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/van_hyning.html


I'm guessing you know this and this was a test. How about you supplying the Hebrew versions and listing the full chapter and verses as I did for quotes out of the Quran?

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Scimitar

Eschatologist
:) in time Tali :)

I just want to know one thing - you took the comment of one Becca Schooler whom is a nobody to claim these are fake quotes?

Are you exercising your right to lie to a goyim?

As for Acahrya S - that wiki had no item on judaism, jews, or talmud at all.... trying to trick me now?

Please do explain the contexts tali

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