The Random, Meaningless Political post thread

[Stevicus]

Well...when Berlusconi said "it's better to be fond of beautiful girls than being gay", the entire nation laughed for months.
I guess you guys don't find that sentence funny, do you?

It may not translate well enough to get the humor.

Although, perhaps a similar trope might go back to the 1990s, when Seinfeld was on. There was an episode where some people thought that Jerry and George were gay. They had to keep denying that they were gay, while still not appearing to be homophobic. "I'm not gay! Not that there's anything wrong with that!"

 

[Estro Felino]

It may not translate well enough to get the humor.

What made people laugh was that he was rumored to cheat on his wife, it was 2010.
And since our male chauvinistic culture considers virility as "being fond or having sex with beautiful women"; so he is basically mocking gays who are not considered "men"; whereas he is a real man. So he basically meant "it's true I cheat on my wife, but at least I am a real man, unlike gays".
It sounds extremely homophobic, I know.
In that video you can see the audience applauding him and laughing...so...

Btw...this is the prostitute that told on TV what she did with Prime Minister SB. In detail.

Although, perhaps a similar trope might go back to the 1990s, when Seinfeld was on. There was an episode where some people thought that Jerry and George were gay. They had to keep denying that they were gay, while still not appearing to be homophobic. "I'm not gay! Not that there's anything wrong with that!"

LOL...that's LOL.
But much more refined wit than ours, for sure.

 

[Wu Wei]

 

[Stevicus]

What made people laugh was that he was rumored to cheat on his wife, it was 2010.
And since our male chauvinistic culture considers virility as "being fond or having sex with beautiful women"; so he is basically mocking gays who are not considered "men"; whereas he is a real man. So he basically meant "it's true I cheat on my wife, but at least I am a real man, unlike gays".
It sounds extremely homophobic, I know.
In that video you can see the audience applauding him and laughing...so...

Btw...this is the prostitute that told on TV what she did with Prime Minister SB. In detail.

Marital infidelity isn't generally looked upon too kindly in the U.S., Trump's antics notwithstanding. It does happen, and sometimes, cheaters are forgiven by their spouses or significant others - or maybe even by their support base, if they're politicians.

LOL...that's LOL.
But much more refined wit than ours, for sure.

The political and cultural landscape of what is considered acceptable nowadays - as opposed to 40-50 years ago - seems to have changed quite a bit in America. To some extent, what many regard as "political correctness" in the U.S. has been facing kind of a backlash lately.

 

[Estro Felino]

The political and cultural landscape of what is considered acceptable nowadays - as opposed to 40-50 years ago - seems to have changed quite a bit in America. To some extent, what many regard as "political correctness" in the U.S. has been facing kind of a backlash lately.

In the US there is not such a thing as political incorrectness.
In my country political correctness is something unheard.

Example:
Once on an Italian talk show (you know, like The View), some journalists were speaking of workers' rights.
A journalist asked the TV host: tell me the name of a male politician that fights for female employees' rights.
The TV host answered by saying the name of an openly gay politician .
The journalist got angry and said: I said a male politician! A male one!.

And the audience burst out laughing...the TV host, a woman fell on her knees, laughing for two minutes.

 

[Stevicus]

In the US there is not such a thing as political incorrectness.
In my country political correctness is something unheard.

Example:
Once on an Italian talk show (you know, like The View), some journalists were speaking of workers' rights.
A journalist asked the TV host: tell me the name of a male politician that fights for female employees' rights.
The TV host answered by saying the name of an openly gay politician .
The journalist got angry and said: I said a male politician! A male one!.

And the audience burst out laughing...the TV host, a woman fell on her knees, laughing for two minutes.

I remember things being much different in the 1970s and early 80s. We still had many of the same issues, but there was far more open and honest discussion. What we call "political correctness" didn't really descend until the mid to late 1980s. This can be exemplified in the way TV and movies started to move away from certain tropes and imagery which doesn't really fly nowadays. I started a thread about this after seeing an article about how many older shows and movies don't hold up to today's scrutiny.

Older TV shows and movies viewed through today's lens

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/10-harsh-realities-of-rewatching-cheers-41-years-later/ar-AA1mb1J5?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=b1782e8c5b5142bbab0fdb12369d8b99&ei=23 I came across this article about the TV sitcom "Cheers." 10 Harsh Realities Of Rewatching Cheers, 41 Years Later I...

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[Father Heathen]

In the US there is not such a thing as political incorrectness.
In my country political correctness is something unheard.

Politically incorrect humor is popular in the U.S., but the humor also has to be clever and have a point or punchline. Simply being homophobic or misogynous isn't funny.

Example:
Once on an Italian talk show (you know, like The View), some journalists were speaking of workers' rights.
A journalist asked the TV host: tell me the name of a male politician that fights for female employees' rights.
The TV host answered by saying the name of an openly gay politician .
The journalist got angry and said: I said a male politician! A male one!.

And the audience burst out laughing...the TV host, a woman fell on her knees, laughing for two minutes.

Wow, that's pretty trashy. I hope Italy can catch up with the rest of Europe some day.

 

[Estro Felino]

Politically incorrect humor is popular in the U.S., but the humor also has to be clever and have a point or punchline. Simply being homophobic or misogynous isn't funny.

Listen: but why are we supposed to be identical?
I like that we are different.
We have a different kind of humor. The refined, delicate wit doesn't make us laugh.
Vulgarity, innuendos about sex are what makes us laugh.

That's why the bleeping out (we call it the "beep") is something of the nineties. Now it's completely gone on Italian TV. Profanity anywhere, even on national TV, paid for by taxpayers.

Wow, that's pretty trashy. I hope Italy can catch up with the rest of Europe some day.

Very trashy.
Our TV is filled with female nudity, profanity, etc...

 

[Father Heathen]

What made people laugh was that he was rumored to cheat on his wife, it was 2010.
And since our male chauvinistic culture considers virility as "being fond or having sex with beautiful women"; so he is basically mocking gays who are not considered "men"; whereas he is a real man. So he basically meant "it's true I cheat on my wife, but at least I am a real man, unlike gays".
It sounds extremely homophobic, I know.
In that video you can see the audience applauding him and laughing...so...

Nothing wrong with having carnal desires, but how does that justify deceiving and betraying one's spouse? I suppose Italians view sexual harassment/assault in the same light?

 

[Estro Felino]

Nothing wrong with having carnal desires, but how does that justify deceiving and betraying one's spouse?

Unfortunately in Italy a politician who cheats on his wife with a beautiful woman...is not condemned by the society. Or by voters.
Quite the opposite. He is considered a real man.
He is ridiculed if he cheats on his wife with a man. It has happened. After the media exposed him, he retired from politics.

I suppose Italians view sexual harassment/assault in the same light?

Absolutely not.
Sexual assault is a crime.
But if we speak of catcalling, most Italians consider it normal.

 

[Revoltingest]

A Maga just claimed that only the 1st 10
Amendments to the Constitution grant
any rights.
And the 9th apparently doesn't either.

 

[Father Heathen]

Listen: but why are we supposed to be identical?
I like that we are different.
We have a different kind of humor. The refined, delicate wit doesn't make us laugh.
Vulgarity, innuendos about sex are what makes us laugh.

Who said American's have a problem vulgarity, innuendos, etc. (other than Christian conservatives)?

That's why the bleeping out (we call it the "beep") is something of the nineties. Now it's completely gone on Italian TV. Profanity anywhere, even on national TV, paid for by taxpayers.


Very trashy.
Our TV is filled with female nudity, profanity, etc...

Nudity and profanity isn't the problem.

btw, what do you think of this compilation?:

 

[Father Heathen]

But if we speak of catcalling, most Italians consider it normal.

Do you enjoy it?

 

[Estro Felino]

Who said American's have a problem vulgarity, innuendos, etc. (other than Christian conservatives)?

The bleeping out thing on TV?

Nudity and profanity isn't the problem.

I know. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

btw, what do you think of this compilation?:

I do like Family Guy humor.
Stereotypes are always witty... and all Italians find them funny.

 

[Revoltingest]

Italy's greatest character is Milhouse Mussolini Van Houten.

 

[Estro Felino]

Do you enjoy it?

It has happened to me, yes.
I find it normal.

 

[Revoltingest]

Learning Italian for Italian-Ameristanians....

 

[Estro Felino]

In my opinion, FG screenwriters have watched Italian TV and how porn it was...and they wrote the scene...
LOL

Rattattattatà !!!! I don't know

 

[justaguy313]

 

[Father Heathen]

The bleeping out thing on TV?

Any sort of media censorship regarding sex and profanity is usually due to Christian conservative influence.