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The Rapture

Firstborner

Active Member
What are you talking about putting on a shirt means your torso gets left behind?

That's what I am saying! yet you said, "To 'put on' means leaving behind the material/physical body and 'put on' a spirit body." and that makes absolutely no sense.

Paul is part of the 'little flock' [smaller group] of Luke [12v32] who are part of the first or earlier resurrection of Rev [20v6] who will reign in heaven with Jesus.

Then why does Paul say, "we ourselves groan inside ourselves, waiting for the adoption, that is, the redemption of our body." That redeeming of the body is explained by Job who says, "For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: " You see it is apparent that Job and Paul will share in the same type of resurrection.


Absolutely Daniel was looking forward to the kingdom of God as he recorded at: Daniel 7 vs13,14; 2v44.

Now here is the issue, you are claiming that Daniel is also awaiting the Kingdom of God, but has a physical resurrection. Jesus and others like Paul you claim receive a spiritual resurrection, yet all are expecting the SAME Kingdom of God. So by your reasoning Daniel, being flesh and blood can not be resurrected into it. Do you see the discrepancies?


The Jews thought Jesus was talking about the temple building itself.
When Jesus was resurrected by God the disciples understood that Jesus was Not resurrected in a fleshly body. Jesus gave his body as a ransom sacrifice [Matt 20v28] . Like Moses body, God disposed of Jesus fleshly body.

That is highly interpretive, there are no scriptures to back that up, and what we do read suggests otherwise. For example when Jesus stated "See that I am not a spirit, but flesh and bone."

The disciples [John 21v12] none of the disciples had the courage to ask Jesus " Who are you?" If they had recognized Jesus in his own fleshy body there would have been no reason for the question: Who are you.

Doesn't a stranger join the disciples on the road from Emmaus to Jerusalem
[7 mile walk] ? Luke 24v11 Peter only finds bandages, No body.
Verse 16 the reason their eyes were kept from recognizing Jesus is because Jesus was in a materialized body. Jesus was resurrected in the spirit so in order for humans to see the resurrected Jesus he put on a different fleshy or materialized body for them to see and talk with.

I already posted my response to these verses, and your response seems to be simply to reiterate them without plugging the holes in your reasoning.

John [21vs4,5] Jesus stood on the shore but the disciples knew Not that it was Jesus, then Jesus said to them.......they answered him, "No'.
They were in close proximity at that point.

No, verse 8 says exactly how far they were, it was 200 cubits, which is roughly the length of a football field. Close enough to see Jesus, yes, to hear him, yes, for instant identification, hardly.

Matthew [12v6] says:... That in this place is one greater than the temple.

Matthew [27v40] says: Thou that destroys [throws down] the temple, and builds it up in three days.

Mark [14v58] We heard him say, I will destroy [throw down] this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.

'Made without hands' or without physical. So a materialized body would be needed because the 'made without hands' spirit body would not be visible to humans.

Peter believed [1st Pt 3v18] Jesus was put to death in the flesh but make alive in the spirit.

You are equating "Made without hands" to mean non -physical, that is just silly, it means not made by men, like the temple was. God fashioned the whole of spiritual and physical creation, and hardly needed a "hand" to do it. A tree is not made by hands, the grand canyon was not made with hands, and neither are we, and yet we are all very physical.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
That's what I am saying! yet you said, "To 'put on' means leaving behind the material/physical body and 'put on' a spirit body." and that makes absolutely no sense.
Then why does Paul say, "we ourselves groan inside ourselves, waiting for the adoption, that is, the redemption of our body." That redeeming of the body is explained by Job who says, "For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: " You see it is apparent that Job and Paul will share in the same type of resurrection.
Now here is the issue, you are claiming that Daniel is also awaiting the Kingdom of God, but has a physical resurrection. Jesus and others like Paul you claim receive a spiritual resurrection, yet all are expecting the SAME Kingdom of God. So by your reasoning Daniel, being flesh and blood can not be resurrected into it. Do you see the discrepancies?
That is highly interpretive, there are no scriptures to back that up, and what we do read suggests otherwise. For example when Jesus stated "See that I am not a spirit, but flesh and bone."
I already posted my response to these verses, and your response seems to be simply to reiterate them without plugging the holes in your reasoning.
No, verse 8 says exactly how far they were, it was 200 cubits, which is roughly the length of a football field. Close enough to see Jesus, yes, to hear him, yes, for instant identification, hardly.
You are equating "Made without hands" to mean non -physical, that is just silly, it means not made by men, like the temple was. God fashioned the whole of spiritual and physical creation, and hardly needed a "hand" to do it. A tree is not made by hands, the grand canyon was not made with hands, and neither are we, and yet we are all very physical.

Before Jesus came to earth Jesus had a spirit body.
Jesus 'put on' his spirit body after his resurrection.
Jesus did not remain in his physical body but returned to a spirit body.
-Hebrews 9v24; 1st Cor 15v50.

KJV has redemption of our body. [Romans 8v23]
Greek Interlinear has awaiting the release by ransom of the body of us.
In other words, the release of the body by ransom.
Redemption or redeemed as adopted sons or as Jesus' brothers.-Gal 4v5
-Rev 20v6; 5vs9,10

In Romans [8v12] Paul is addressing Jesus 'brothers'.
Verse 17 mentions Jesus 'brothers' who are joint-heirs, and are part of the first or earlier resurrection of Rev. 20v6.
Jesus 'brothers' are also those of Matthew 25v40,
they are Not the 'sheep' of verse 32.

No. Paul and Job do Not share in the same resurrection because everyone that died before Jesus died did Not ascend to heaven according to John 3v13.

Jesus death opened up the way to heaven.
That is why Acts [2v34] says David did not ascend to heaven.
And John the Baptist did not ascend to heaven. -Matthew 11v11.
[the least one in heaven is greater than John]

Please notice in Hebrews chapter 11 that none of those righteous ones according to verses 13 and 39 did Not receive the promise although they died faithful.

Isn't the kingdom of God ruling from heaven ?
Jesus said to pray 'thy kingdom come'
Then Jesus added that God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Isn't God's will for heaven peaceful conditions ?
No one thinks of going to war in heaven.
No one thinks of heaven being polluted, or a violent place.
No one thinks of going to heaven to die in heaven or be sick in heaven.

So, by praying God's will be done here [earth] as his will is being done in heaven, then we are praying for those same good peaceful conditions to be here on earth as those good conditions exist in heaven.

Yes, John [21v8] says 200 cubits, but please notice the change in verse 9.
At verse 9 they come to land.
Jesus then speaks to them when they reach land.
It isn't until verse 12 that the disciples had the courage to inquire of Jesus,
"Who are you?" No need to think of such a question although by that time they had already discerned he was the resurrected Jesus.
Instant recognition would not call for such a question as such close range.

Those that go to heaven are a small or 'little flock' [Luke 12v32] in comparison to the majority of mankind or larger 'other sheep' of John 10v16.

Many have lived and died that did not have the opportunity to put faith in Jesus.
Daniel [12v2] said 'many' that sleep in the dust [gravedom] will awake [resurrection] to everlasting life.
Wasn't Adam offered everlasting life on earth if obedient ?
Verse 13 says Daniel would sleep [RIP] in the grave [John 11vs11-14]
then Daniel would stand at the end of the days.
That is the end of the days of all badness on earth when Jesus ushers in peace on earth after ridding the earth of all the wicked.
-Isaiah 11v4; Rev 19vs11,15

The living 'sheep' of Matthew [25v32,46] can gain everlasting life on earth.
Whereas Jesus 'brothers' [verse 40] are heavenly joint-heirs with Christ.

With the exception of Matthew [12v32]; Hebrews [6vs4-6], [un-forgiven],
all of the dead will be delivered up [resurrected].

Jesus 'brothers' [Rev 20v6; 14vs4;5vs9,10] are resurrected first or have an earlier resurrection to heaven.
The rest of mankind will be earthly subjects of God's kingdom. -Psalm 72v8.-
Won't Jesus have subjects [citizens] from one end of earth to the other end of the earth ?
 

javajo

Well-Known Member
I believe at the Rapture, according to the following, our bodies will be changed, transformed to sinless, immortal, and glorified, but they are still our bodies:

51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53For this corruptible (sinful) must put on incorruption (sinlessness), and this mortal must put on immortality.

I believe our earthly body as it is now cannot enter heaven, so it will be changed into a new and glorified body. The whole point is that flesh and blood IS raised from the grave as Jesus' body was, but is changed to sinless, immortal and glorified to enter Heaven. To not believe Jesus physically rose from the dead, I believe is heresy, for his body did not see corruption and is not in the tomb.
 

IsmailaGodHasHeard

Well-Known Member
I believe at the Rapture, according to the following, our bodies will be changed, transformed to sinless, immortal, and glorified, but they are still our bodies:

51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53For this corruptible (sinful) must put on incorruption (sinlessness), and this mortal must put on immortality.

I believe our earthly body as it is now cannot enter heaven, so it will be changed into a new and glorified body. The whole point is that flesh and blood IS raised from the grave as Jesus' body was, but is changed to sinless, immortal and glorified to enter Heaven. To not believe Jesus physically rose from the dead, I believe is heresy, for his body did not see corruption and is not in the tomb.
Amen to that.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Paul says Jesus was buried, not put in a tomb.

Burial or burial place.
The tomb would have been the burial place.

So, besides simple ground graves in Palestine, they did cut burial chambers in rock, so I think a person could be considered buried in a tomb.

Jesus 'brothers' at Romans [6vs3,4; Col 2v12] are also buried in the sense of being buried with Christ by baptism into his death.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I believe at the Rapture, according to the following, our bodies will be changed, transformed to sinless, immortal, and glorified, but they are still our bodies:

51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53For this corruptible (sinful) must put on incorruption (sinlessness), and this mortal must put on immortality.

I believe our earthly body as it is now cannot enter heaven, so it will be changed into a new and glorified body. The whole point is that flesh and blood IS raised from the grave as Jesus' body was, but is changed to sinless, immortal and glorified to enter Heaven. To not believe Jesus physically rose from the dead, I believe is heresy, for his body did not see corruption and is not in the tomb.

Yes, Jesus body did not decay [corruption] Just as Moses body did not see decay/corruption. God disposed of both bodies.
If Jesus was raised in his physical body then his body would not have been sacrificed. Physical bodies do Not walk through closed doors. -John 20v19

Yes, Jesus 'brothers' [1st Thess 4vs13] that are alive at the time of Matthew [25vs31,32,40] will not sleep in death, but at death will be resurrected in a spirit body as Jesus was resurrected in a spirit body.

That is why Paul gave the illustration of the plant at 1st Cor [ 15vs42-44].
A seed that is sown must give up the seed [body] in order to become a plant.
The physical body [seed] must be given up to become the plant [spirit body].

Jesus was caught up in the cloud [Acts 1v9] after his resurrection.
So, Jesus 'brothers' that are 'caught up' to meet the Lord are like Jesus 'caught up' [resurrected not raptured] and ascend to heaven to be part of the first or earlier resurrection of Revelation 20v6.
 

Awoon

Well-Known Member
Burial or burial place.
The tomb would have been the burial place.

So, besides simple ground graves in Palestine, they did cut burial chambers in rock, so I think a person could be considered buried in a tomb.

Jesus 'brothers' at Romans [6vs3,4; Col 2v12] are also buried in the sense of being buried with Christ by baptism into his death.



Burial place is not stated. Buried...covered with dirt.

Jesus wasnt resurrected, he was raised. Those who saw him were raised in their consciousness to percieve him.
 

Firstborner

Active Member
Amen to that.

And I'll Amen that Amen!

Yes, Jesus body did not decay [corruption] Just as Moses body did not see decay/corruption. God disposed of both bodies.

God did not "dispose" of either body. Moses' he retained and guarded while Jesus' he resurrected. There is not one passage of scripture saying these bodies "were disposed" of.

If Jesus was raised in his physical body then his body would not have been sacrificed. Physical bodies do Not walk through closed doors. -John 20v19.

Sure it would have been...Sacrifice has to do with giving up something...resurrection is conquering death, they are two different issues. Christ does not continually or perpetually sacrifice his body, that was done ONCE and resulted in his death. His resurrection came after the debt was paid.

Physical bodies do not walk on water either.

Yes, Jesus 'brothers' [1st Thess 4vs13] that are alive at the time of Matthew [25vs31,32,40] will not sleep in death, but at death will be resurrected in a spirit body as Jesus was resurrected in a spirit body.

Not a biblical doctrine, it is a theological position.

That is why Paul gave the illustration of the plant at 1st Cor [ 15vs42-44].
A seed that is sown must give up the seed [body] in order to become a plant.
The physical body [seed] must be given up to become the plant [spirit body].

Let me explain, since I grew up on a farm, the seed is found at various stages of transformation until it developes, using the same materials (flesh) into a full grown plant. It does not give up anything, it's all there, just changed.

Jesus was caught up in the cloud [Acts 1v9] after his resurrection.
So, Jesus 'brothers' that are 'caught up' to meet the Lord are like Jesus 'caught up' [resurrected not raptured] and ascend to heaven to be part of the first or earlier resurrection of Revelation 20v6.

And when he was caught up he was still in sight (physical) after having discoursed with them physically for 40 days.
 

javajo

Well-Known Member
Yes, Jesus body did not decay [corruption] Just as Moses body did not see decay/corruption. God disposed of both bodies.
If Jesus was raised in his physical body then his body would not have been sacrificed. Physical bodies do Not walk through closed doors. -John 20v19

Yes, Jesus 'brothers' [1st Thess 4vs13] that are alive at the time of Matthew [25vs31,32,40] will not sleep in death, but at death will be resurrected in a spirit body as Jesus was resurrected in a spirit body.

That is why Paul gave the illustration of the plant at 1st Cor [ 15vs42-44].
A seed that is sown must give up the seed [body] in order to become a plant.
The physical body [seed] must be given up to become the plant [spirit body].

Jesus was caught up in the cloud [Acts 1v9] after his resurrection.
So, Jesus 'brothers' that are 'caught up' to meet the Lord are like Jesus 'caught up' [resurrected not raptured] and ascend to heaven to be part of the first or earlier resurrection of Revelation 20v6.
This is about the Rapture, but I will address this 'spirit body' resurrection a bit. Jesus said, "'Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days'...the temple he had spoken of was his body" (John 2:19, 21)He said he'd raise his body from the tomb, and he did.

Jesus said, "Look at My hands and My feet. It is I Myself! Touch Me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have" (Luke 24:39)

Later Jesus cooked food and ate with them. Only a physical body could do that.

Jesus also said in John 10:17-18, "I lay down my life, that I might take it again...I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again."

That's why his body was not there. When he raised people from the dead, their physical bodies were alive again. This is resurrection power. Jesus is in his changed, transformed, immortal, sinless, glorified physical body. It is transformed, he can appear instantly in a room, he can also eat and be felt and seen.

This is what will happen at the Rapture when we are changed, first the dead, whom Christ will bring with him from Heaven, who's bodies will be raised, and then we who are alive shall be caught up and transformed immortal, sinless and glorified to be with Him in Heaven.
 

WALL

Member
Then why does Paul say, "we ourselves groan inside ourselves, waiting for the adoption, that is, the redemption of our body." That redeeming of the body is explained by Job who says, "For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: " You see it is apparent that Job and Paul will share in the same type of resurrection.

Will Paul and Job be in the same resurrection? The 1st. 1Cor.15. The dead in Christ
 

WALL

Member
No. Paul and Job do Not share in the same resurrection because everyone that died before Jesus died did Not ascend to heaven according to John 3v13.

Sorry bout earlier question. Just found this. Your right about no one going to heaven before Jesus. Could you show me sciptures that actually say that people after Christ now do ascend into heaven when they die.
 

WALL

Member
Is this the timeline for the rapture theory?
Last trumpet to be blown
1st ressurection
people raptured
7 year tribulation period
Day of the Lord (those raptured return with the Lord)
1000yr period of rest
2nd ressurection
Great White thrown judgement

What in the wide wide world of sports is a Frubal?
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Where does it say people raptured ?
Where does it say 7 year tribulation period ?

[Just like the days of Noah right [Matt 24v37] ?
The Flood did not last 7 years. It came hard and swift. Fast.]

1st resurrection is heavenly [Rev 20v6; 5vs9,10]
After the first or earlier heavenly resurrection is the earthly resurrection.
They do not come to earthly eternal life or everlasting life until the end of the 1000 years.
So, they are resurrected on earth during the thousand years, but not considered as eternally living until after the final test.

In other words, the ones resurrected on earth are not resurrected with the human perfection of a perfectly sound heart, mind and body as Adam had at his creation.
They will grow, so to speak, to human perfection during that millennial time period.
By the end of the thousand years mankind will have reached that same relative human perfection that Adam originally had before sinning.
 

javajo

Well-Known Member
Where does it say people raptured ?
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thess 4:17 Caught up--Latin 'rapio' from where we get 'rapture'. We meet him in the air to be with him in Heaven where he is preparing a place for us that where he is we may be also, see John 14:1-3.

Where does it say 7 year tribulation period ?
70th Week of Daniel is Seven Years or 7x360 days=2520 starts in Dan. 9:27 with the signing of the covenant. Rev. 13:5, in the middle of the Tribulation, the Antichrist sets up the abomination for three and a half years, (1,260 days) See here: What is the Tribulation? How do we know the Tribulation will last seven years?
[Just like the days of Noah right [Matt 24v37] ?
The Flood did not last 7 years. It came hard and swift. Fast.]
As Jesus will come hard and swift at the end of the Tribulation. Note, God shut Noah's family up for seven days before it rained.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Sorry bout earlier question. Just found this. Your right about no one going to heaven before Jesus. Could you show me sciptures that actually say that people after Christ now do ascend into heaven when they die.

1st Cor [15 vs50-54] talks of Jesus 'brothers' putting on: immortality
[life in the heavens]. Earthly subjects gain everlasting life or eternal life.
The immortal have life within. Earthly subjects are dependent on eating and drinking. Can not continue to live without food and breathing, etc.
I see in verse 52 mentioning the time of the last trumpet. [trumpet call]
That trumpet sound is in connection to 1st Thess 4v16.
Verse 16 concludes that the dead in union with Christ rise: 'first'.
They are part of the first or earlier resurrection of Rev 20v6; 14v4;5vs9,10.
Heavenly resurrection first before earthly.

The holy ones or saints are mentioned at Rev [19v8] being in heaven before the earthly action of verses 11-15. Wouldn't that show some or many are already resurrected and ascended to heaven?

I found Psalm 45 to be of interest.
The events in that Psalm connect to Revelation.
1st] the crowned king rides in conquest of enemies [verses 1-7]
2nd] marriage with heavenly symbolic bride with earthly companions [8-15]
3nd] marriage becomes fruitful with resurrected mankind gaining human perfection under the oversight of 'princes' in the earth.
'Princes' in the sense that king and bride have children. [verses 16,17]
-Isaiah 32v1

Heavenly Jesus [king] and heavenly bride [saints/'brothers] and earthly family.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thess 4:17 Caught up--Latin 'rapio' from where we get 'rapture'. We meet him in the air to be with him in Heaven where he is preparing a place for us that where he is we may be also, see John 14:1-3.
70th Week of Daniel is Seven Years or 7x360 days=2520 starts in Dan. 9:27 with the signing of the covenant. Rev. 13:5, in the middle of the Tribulation, the Antichrist sets up the abomination for three and a half years, (1,260 days) See here: What is the Tribulation? How do we know the Tribulation will last seven years?
As Jesus will come hard and swift at the end of the Tribulation. Note, God shut Noah's family up for seven days before it rained.

When was Jesus 'caught up' in the clouds [Acts 1v9]
That wasn't until his ascension up to heaven.

The 70 'weeks of years' starts with Nehemiah 2 vs 1,5,7,8.
Verse 5 start of 62 weeks plus 7 = 69.
A day for a year takes forward to 483 years or Luke 3vs1-3 when something expected happens. The people were aware or in expectation of the Messiah to make his presence on the scene.

Dan 9v26 Messiah cut off. Jesus was baptized, and at age 30 presented himself right on time as the Messiah. Then Jesus was 'cut off' in death.

Why capitalize antiChrist ? There is no Scripture showing a single person?
 

javajo

Well-Known Member
When was Jesus 'caught up' in the clouds [Acts 1v9]
That wasn't until his ascension up to heaven.

The 70 'weeks of years' starts with Nehemiah 2 vs 1,5,7,8.
Verse 5 start of 62 weeks plus 7 = 69.
A day for a year takes forward to 483 years or Luke 3vs1-3 when something expected happens. The people were aware or in expectation of the Messiah to make his presence on the scene.

Dan 9v26 Messiah cut off. Jesus was baptized, and at age 30 presented himself right on time as the Messiah. Then Jesus was 'cut off' in death.

Why capitalize antiChrist ? There is no Scripture showing a single person?
I believe 69 7's or weeks have been fulfilled when Messiah was cut off at Jesus' death, there is one week of 7 years yet to happen. We are in the Age of Grace or Church Age, the Great Parenthesis, after which, after the rapture, with the signing of the peace treaty by the Antichrist, the last Week of Daniel will commence as it says, Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. We know Israel must be gathered together and at some point the temple rebuilt for the Antichrist to desecrate it. The Antichrist has at least 25 different names and while there is a spirit of antichrist and many antichrists at work, there will be one Man of Sin who will set himself up as God at the mid-point of the Tribulation. Here are 25 names: The Antichrist - CHAPTER FOUR. NAMES AND TITLES OF THE ANTICHRIST.
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
javajo-

In Scripture: 1st John 2 vs18,22; 4v3 and 2nd John verse 7 do Not capitalize antichrist.

Messiah, or Jesus, was cut off in death within the one week [7 yrs]

During that 70th week [7 years] Gabriel said that period of '70 weeks' had been determined in order to:
After '62 weeks' Messiah would be cut off. [midst of that one week or 3 1/2 yrs]
-Daniel 9v26 A; 27 A.

That makes the critical time at the half of that week [3 1/2] years.
In other words, the middle of the last week of those 7 years.

The need for animal sacrifices under the Mosaic law ceased even though the Jewish priests continued to make offerings until the temple's destruction in 70 CE.
As we know such sacrifices were no longer part of God's purpose.
They were replaced by a better sacrifice once for all time.
-Hebrews 10vs12,14.

So, although by means of Christ's death the law covenant or contract was removed,
that still left 3 1/2 years left out of those last 7 years.
That was not because the law covenant was in force, but the Abrahamic covenant.
In other words, God extended the blessings of the Abrahamic covenant to Abraham's fleshly Hebrew offspring or descendants for 3 1/2 more years.

It was Not until 3 1/2 years later [after Jesus death] that the 70 weeks ended for the Jews with the start of the gentile nations [Cornelius] being brought into the Christian congregation.
-Acts 3vs25,26; 10vs1-48; Gal. 3vs8,9,14.

Although the actual desolation of the temple took place in the year 70, it was still the result from the direct happening during that final week when Jesus as Christ was rejected by the Jewish nation putting Jesus to his death.
-Matthew 23 vs37,38; 24 vs15,16; Acts 2 vs22,23; 3 vs12-15

That 'last week' or 7 years is not yet to happen, but past tense did already happen.

Rapture has to be heavenly resurrection because the living [flesh and blood] can Not inherit the heavenly kingdom of God. [1st Cor 15v50]

Since Pentecost the 'Israel of God' is now spiritual [not fleshly or natural] Israel.
-Gal. 4v26; 6v16; Romans 2 vs28,29; 1st Peter 2 vs9,10
The Israel of today exists apart as a national group not Christian.

The man of sin, or the son of perdition [destruction], of 2nd Thess 2vs2-8, is the composite clergy that sit themselves in the temple [houses of worship] as if they are God when they are really anti-God. -Acts 20 vs29,30
 
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