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The real Messiah!!!

David69

Angel Of The North
My understanding is the OP is claiming to be the jewish messiah. The bahai scriptures have no relevance to that claim. Enough said.
what is OP? Those bahai scriptures!!! I havent a clue who they are! are they even relivent to the messiah? all groups have different beleifs! are they muslims or something like that? Enough said what :confused: explain in layman turms in your own words plz
cheers!

Add: Enough said: dude, maybe thats why I am interested in Jewish and Christions veiws. Is it the old testiment or something?
 
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Humanistheart

Well-Known Member
what is OP? Those bahai scriptures!!! I havent a clue who they are! are they even relivent to the messiah? all groups have different beleifs! are they muslims or something like that? Enough said what :confused: explain in layman turms in your own words plz
cheers!

Add: Enough said: dude, maybe thats why I am interested in Jewish and Christions veiws. Is it the old testiment or something?

OP either means Original Poster or Original Post. The bahai scriptures are not relevant to the messiah's claims, at all. They're a post modern group that tries to merge all religions, in short, it's barely a real religion as it is. What I was saying to the person who quoted them is that he's point wasn't valid in debunked the OP's (you if I'm not mistaken) claim to be the messiah.
 

David69

Angel Of The North
OP either means Original Poster or Original Post. The bahai scriptures are not relevant to the messiah's claims, at all. They're a post modern group that tries to merge all religions, in short, it's barely a real religion as it is. What I was saying to the person who quoted them is that he's point wasn't valid in debunked the OP's (you if I'm not mistaken) claim to be the messiah.

Thanks man, I did wonder what he was on about!

Yes for real I stood up and declared myself as the Messiah to my jewish doctor a couple of years ago... if that! and what I said in my original post is very true. And I am being very serious :) I have three kids and I dont mention anything reguarding these matters. No one that knows me think I am nuts and I stand infront of medical profecionalls for them to prove that I have psycosis... they cannot do it. a nurse belonging to them has asked for my help with his daughter that has experiencd demons etc since she was 5 and thats what got him into psycosis 30 yrs ago.
The medication that they give people with psycosis stops them seeing and hearing things that are not there and to stop them thinking like they do without the meds? They do nothing for me but help me with sleeping disorders.

I am still taking there meds and I write like I do because I strongly feel like I am The one.
Sorry if I misunderstood your well intentioned aproach!
Thanks
David69
 

Demonic Kitten

Active Member
If your the messiah then can I be satan?

Sorry had to get that out of my system.

What proof can you offer that you in fact the messiah the Jews are waiting for?
 

David69

Angel Of The North
If your the messiah then can I be satan?

Sorry had to get that out of my system.

What proof can you offer that you in fact the messiah the Jews are waiting for?

Sure you can be my darkside anytime ;)

Prophecys that I have forfilled
That jewish rabbi guy who died in 2006 left details of who I am?
Im the guy that understands the mark of the beast
I am a subconscious communicator the so called power that I suposedly stole from God the father. It brings the world together.
I only have to write the book of my life!
Thats how I do it btw... no big majick there.
I can proove that I am of Jesus
and things that I say will be recognised by certain people around the world that hold these secrets!
did you read the first post by the way? you can question it if u r interested enough!

Thanks
David69 aka royaldavid69/ghostmaker
 

Demonic Kitten

Active Member
Sure you can be my darkside anytime ;)

Prophecys that I have forfilled
That jewish rabbi guy who died in 2006 left details of who I am?
Im the guy that understands the mark of the beast
I am a subconscious communicator the so called power that I suposedly stole from God the father. It brings the world together.
I only have to write the book of my life!
Thats how I do it btw... no big majick there.
I can proove that I am of Jesus
and things that I say will be recognised by certain people around the world that hold these secrets!
did you read the first post by the way? you can question it if u r interested enough!

Thanks
David69 aka royaldavid69/ghostmaker

In all honesty I tried to read all of it, but I got bored halfway through. I'll try to read it again and see what I can come up with.

Now for the rest of your post... Why should I believe what you say? I'm not a religious person and the Gods and Goddesses I believe in are my own. So how could you make someone like me believe in your words? (keep in mind I am a skeptic.)
 

David69

Angel Of The North
In all honesty I tried to read all of it, but I got bored halfway through. I'll try to read it again and see what I can come up with.

Now for the rest of your post... Why should I believe what you say? I'm not a religious person and the Gods and Goddesses I believe in are my own. So how could you make someone like me believe in your words? (keep in mind I am a skeptic.)
I'm not that bothered if you beleive me or not. I am not religious either and am also a big sceptic so I understand. I also have my own beleifs that differ from Religion so if you dont want to take part thats cool! I only want opinions for my mind. I am particulary interested in the Jewish and christions veiws.

cheers for your comments.
 

David69

Angel Of The North
Your not ready for my beleif of Lucifers identity yet lol

Try me !!
Would like to know his REAL identity.

Gods proudest creation! My subconscious comunication comes by the 3s 333 3+3+3=9 Lucifer! I dont expect you to understand this. People see 666 as the Devil but if you turn that upside down you will see the truth. 999 now if I were to say that
if the mortal amongst us that crossed the abyss and no devil or godCAN stop him, was to do a simple sum that would reveil the true identity that would connect Lucifers chosen one with his lighter side (essence of) Jesus by his death and the moment Jesus sent his Angel forth!!! This person could only be the true Lucifer, false messiah, true messiah! you wouldnt beleive me wouyld you? and if anyman had such a code and understood the code he would be stinking ritch etc... so what I will say and I think crowly said it nicely (thats if I am not mistaken) and this is a hint...
something like: I will tell thee things and you will hang on to my every word but it will only be I jesting with thee for I am three three three! Only the mortal amongstus will cross the abyss as it is his birthright... yeah, I know Ive getting it back to front and inside out but he says that he will deceive the great thinkers of ages (reguarding 666) they will be looking for names in the 6s but he says clearly IT is his birthright!! what does that sugest John... go on hazard a guesss? no one in history has got it right for they been deceived but little old me knows and I cant spell or talk propperly etc!!!
I dont do books I only know of real experience thats passed down through dna! (well I thinkso anyways lol) want to know how my mind ticks, how I come about great visions and insights etc???
Sorry bud, It is late and I'm tired etc but what I beleive to be true is that God has a side to him like I have and for me it was some demon that would show up for real and other people would witness first hand! but it turned out to be this other side to me, Reaching out for recognition and acceptence!!! Thats alllll.
Lucifer is Gods subconscious imo. When Lucifers chosen one and Jesus Angel stands up to the world and brings it together with the only power that he has! Then he will say That he is the most high. Not because he is arrogant and thinks he is above the most high but because he and the farther also become one! Shocking eh!

How does the chosen one or the real Messiah pull it off? do you know? If it is not Gods will then why wont god stop it?
I said to my Jewish doctor Is the Messiah, Me, going to be recognised by the Jews or will they turn there backs? He said he will be recognised only if it IS Gods will! I said "thats right!!"
Through me Jesus forfills those prophecys and so does Lucifer and the father!
In this idiots opinion anyways *sighs*

Hey Guys lets have some serious questions. Surely all you Jews would love a peice of me... even if it is to poot me to the stake lol
 

Demonic Kitten

Active Member
I hope you are not expecting people to take you too seriously and I would venture to guess that most might actually see this as an insult or blasphemy...this is JMO of course. I don't really count because I don't have a religion.
 

David69

Angel Of The North
I hope you are not expecting people to take you too seriously and I would venture to guess that most might actually see this as an insult or blasphemy...this is JMO of course. I don't really count because I don't have a religion.

I do hope that they can help me out and show me that I am wrong, I wanna be healed from this nightmare. Look what happened to jesus! and the way he was seen but Look at how he is thought of today!

So I wont be seeing you again in this thread unless you wanna cross examen what I have written. I havent even started yet :)
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
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katiafish

consciousness incarnate
There is no external, just the Self and the ecstatic Self love :) You are the messiah into your Self, enough words said to prove it to your Self, now love your Self and be happy.
 

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
My understanding is the OP is claiming to be the jewish messiah. The bahai scriptures have no relevance to that claim. Enough said.

Incorrect.

The statement refers to ANY such claim at the present time REGARDLESS of which particular person the individual making it is claiming to be.

So I repeat:

End of story.

Peace,

Bruce
 

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
[The Baha'i Faith is] a post modern group that tries to merge all religions, in short, it's barely a real religion as it is.

You couldn't be more incorrect!

First off, the Baha'i Faith is an independant world religion, not part of Islam or anything else!

And it's very much a "religion," as you'll discover if you investigate it! We have roughly seven million followers already in literally every country on earth (except for the Vatican, the sole exception).

Further, our scriptures amount to about 200 volumes, plus many supplementary texts.

You can discover more at: www.bahai.org and www.bahai.us (among other sites).

Peace, :)

Bruce
 

David69

Angel Of The North
Incorrect.

The statement refers to ANY such claim at the present time REGARDLESS of which particular person the individual making it is claiming to be.

So I repeat:

End of story.

Peace,

Bruce

well maybe you should leave the conversation, I dont want your book rammed down my neck! It is irrelivent to me. imo What you quoted means nothing to me I was really after Jewish and Christian feedback.

By all means ask me questions about what I have written! But you need to be versed in Jewish, christian or even muslim faiths, or any that understands what I am talking about. :facepalm:
Any jews here?
 

David69

Angel Of The North
israel today > Politics > Rabbi Reveals Name of the Messiah

Looks like Im on my own then... oh well.. what will be will be...


Rabbi Reveals Name of the Messiah
Shortly before he died, one of Israel's most prominent rabbis wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was opened, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah.

A few months before he died, one of the nation’s most prominent rabbis, Yitzhak Kaduri, supposedly wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was unsealed, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah.
With the biblical name of Jesus, the Rabbi and kabbalist described the Messiah using six words and hinting that the initial letters form the name of the Messiah. The secret note said:
Concerning the letter abbreviation of the Messiah’s name, He will lift the people and prove that his word and law are valid.
This I have signed in the month of mercy,
Yitzhak Kaduri
The Hebrew sentence (translated above in bold) with the hidden name of the Messiah reads: Yarim Ha’Am Veyokhiakh Shedvaro Vetorato Omdim
The initials spell the Hebrew name of Jesus, Yehoshua. Yehoshua and Yeshua are effectively the same name, derived from the same Hebrew root of the word "salvation" as documented in Zechariah 6:11 and Ezra 3:2. The same priest writes in Ezra, "Yeshua son of Yozadak" while writing in Zechariah "Yehoshua son of Yohozadak." The priest adds the holy abbreviation of God’s name, ho, in the father’s name Yozadak and in the name Yeshua.
With one of Israel’s most prominent rabbis indicating the name of the Messiah is Yeshua, it is understandable why his last wish was to wait one year after his death before revealing what he wrote.
When the name of Yehoshua appeared in Kaduri’s message, ultra-Orthodox Jews from his Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva (seminary) in Jerusalem argued that their master did not leave the exact solution for decoding the Messiah’s name.
The revelation received scant coverage in the Israeli media. Only the Hebrew websites News First Class (Nfc) and Kaduri.net mentioned the Messiah note, insisting it was authentic. The Hebrew daily Ma'ariv ran a story on the note but described it as a forgery.
Jewish readers responded on the websites' forums with mixed feelings: "So this means Rabbi Kaduri was a Christian?" and "The Christians are dancing and celebrating," were among the comments.
Israel Today spoke to two of Kaduri’s followers in Jerusalem who admitted that the note was authentic, but confusing for his followers as well. "We have no idea how the Rabbi got to this name of the Messiah," one of them said.
Yet others completely deny any possibility that the note is authentic. Kaduri’s son, Rabbi David Kaduri, said that at the time the note was written (September 2005), his father’s physical condition made it impossible for him to write.

KADURI'S PORTRAYAL OF THE MESSIAH
A few months before Kaduri died at the age of 108, he surprised his followers when he told them that he met the Messiah. Kaduri gave a message in his synagogue on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, teaching how to recognize the Messiah. He also mentioned that the Messiah would appear to Israel after Ariel Sharon’s death. (The former prime minister is still in a coma after suffering a massive stroke more than a year ago.)
Other rabbis predict the same, including Rabbi Haim Cohen, kabbalist Nir Ben Artzi and the wife of Rabbi Haim Kneiveskzy.
Kaduri’s grandson, Rabbi Yosef Kaduri, said his grandfather spoke many times during his last days about the coming of the Messiah and redemption through the Messiah.
His spiritual portrayals of the Messiah—reminiscent of New Testament accounts—were published on the websites Kaduri.net and Nfc:
"It is hard for many good people in society to understand the person of the Messiah. The leadership and order of a Messiah of flesh and blood is hard to accept for many in the nation. As leader, the Messiah will not hold any office, but will be among the people and use the media to communicate. His reign will be pure and without personal or political desire. During his dominion, only righteousness and truth will reign.
"Will all believe in the Messiah right away? No, in the beginning some of us will believe in him and some not. It will be easier for non-religious people to follow the Messiah than for Orthodox people.
"The revelation of the Messiah will be fullled in two stages: First, he will actively confirm his position as Messiah without knowing himself that he is the Messiah. Then he will reveal himself to some Jews, not necessarily to wise Torah scholars. It can be even simple people. Only then he will reveal himself to the whole nation. -The people will wonder and say: ‘What, that’s the Messiah?’ Many have known his name but have not believed that he is the Messiah."

FAREWELL TO A 'TSADIK'
Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri was known for his photographic memory and his memorization of the Bible, the Talmud, Rashi and other Jewish writings. He knew Jewish sages and celebrities of the last century and rabbis who lived in the Holy Land and kept the faith alive before the State of Israel was born.
Kaduri was not only highly esteemed because of his age of 108. He was charismatic and wise, and chief rabbis looked up to him as a Tsadik, a righteous man or saint. He would give advice and blessings to everyone who asked. -Thousands visited him to ask for counsel or healing. His followers speak of many miracles and his students say that he predicted many disasters.
When he died, more than 200,000 people joined the funeral procession on the streets of Jerusalem to pay their respects as he was taken to hisfinal resting place.
"When he comes, the Messiah will rescue Jerusalem from foreign religions that want to rule the city," Kaduri once said. "They will not succeed for they will fight against one another."

THE RABBI'S FOLLOWERS REACT
In an interview with Israel Today, Rabbi David Kaduri, the 80-year-old son of the late Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri, denied that his father left a note with the name Yeshua just before he died.
"It’s not his writing," he said when we showed him a copy of the note.
During a nighttime meeting in the Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva in Jerusalem, books with the elder Kaduri’s handwriting from 80 years ago were presented to us in an attempt to prove that the Messiah note was not authentic.
When we told Rabbi Kaduri that his father’s official website (www.kaduri.net) had mentioned the Messiah note, he was shocked. "Oh no! That’s blasphemy. The people could understand that my father pointed to him [the Messiah of the Christians]."
David Kaduri confirmed, however, that in his last year, his father had talked and dreamed almost exclusively about the Messiah and his coming. "My father has met the Messiah in a vision," he said, "and told us that he would come soon."
Israel Today was given access to many of the rabbi's manuscripts, written in his own hand for the exclusive use of his students. Most striking were the cross-like symbols painted by Kaduri all over the pages. In the Jewish tradition, one does not use crosses. In fact, even the use of a plus sign is discouraged because it might be mistaken for a cross.
But there they were, scribbled in the rabbi's own hand. When we asked what those symbols meant, Rabbi David Kaduri said they were "signs of the angel." Pressed further about the meaning of the "signs of the angel," he said he had no idea. Rabbi David Kaduri went on to explain that only his father had had a spiritual relationship with God and had met the Messiah in his dreams.

Orthodox Jews around the Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva told Israel Today a few weeks later that the story about the secret note of Rabbi Kaduri should never have come out, and that it had damaged the name the revered old sage.israel today > Politics > Rabbi Reveals Name of the Messiah

David69
 

David69

Angel Of The North
No one wanting to discuss this with me? I have mentioned about this article and have discussed this and I have been blanked. People carnt be bothered to read the first post even. I mentioned the Rabbi and that he left papers that reveil the messiah. He handed some papers over to officials but not all of them ofcourse!
Even if the old sage did write Jesus name I can account for that!!! But he left a code with no clear instruction on how to decipher! Jesus has not let the Jews down! The crosses stand for the second coming of Jesus and through me he will forfill the prophecys!! Theres lots of swings and roundabouts in THE GOD GAME!!! REMEMBER these words:
JESUS: " I send forth my ANGEL,I am the Root of DAVID, WE ARE ONE!!!!!!"
no one on the planet apart from selected few know the true meaning imo
Remember the crosses drawn all over the papers? Look at my avatar!
This was errected right infront of where I was born, and mark my words the pope will pass this wonder this year and things will come together in his mind and he will see the picture!!! My powers? Subconscious communication... Brings the whole world together as sure as we are here right now!!!
Next I will Talk about :
He also mentioned that the Messiah would appear to Israel after Ariel Sharon’s death. (The former prime minister is still in a coma after suffering a massive stroke more than a year ago.) In fact he slipped into a coma in 2006 and is still there today... waiting!!!
The shows not over untill its over!!!

Hey BRUCE!!! Enough said m8 Enough said!!! :D

Dam! I might of ran into my first brick wall... I am not even Jewish!!! :banghead3
:confused:
namaste.
David69... the psycotic prophet :rolleyes:
 

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
ittle as you appreciate the fact, I didn't "ram" (your term) anything! I simply quoted the relevant passage. (I'll be charitable and not quote the thing about if you can't stand the heat.)

And we are as Christian as any of the 35,000 other flavors of Christanity, thankyouverymuch, in that every one of us reveres both Christ and the Bible (and indeed can't even become one of us without doing so)! We ourselves are thus directly responsible for teaching literally millions of non-Christians to love and respect Christ.

So like it or not, this passage is as relevant as any other response you're likely to get here.

Oh--and I was Christian long enough to have an excellent knowledge of its details--not to mention that I've edited and indexed several books (totalling over 500 pages) on the Bible.

And BTW, while it's nice that a rabbi gave the name Yeshua, BOTH the Jewish and Christian scriptures promise that the Spirit will have a new name! This has indeed come to pass.

Peace,

Bruce
 
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