Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I guess we could boil down even further and say that conciousness is the root of self-importance.
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The Real Root of All Evil
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I guess we could boil down even further and say that conciousness is the root of self-importance.
Jeremiah
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Sorry no, I don't feel like haggling over examples. But what about lust, pride and anger/aggression? Not only that, but what about the non-emotional elements? Such as; ignorance, uncompassionate rationalizations and learned behavioral patterns.
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My answer is simply perceived separation causes all Vice. Virtue brings harmony. Harmony brings order. Order becomes Unity. All "evil" humanity inflicts on itself is caused by a perceived separateness from one another. All "evil" humanity inflicts on the Earth is caused by a perceived separateness from our planet.
and.... all evil humanity that inflicts such separateness will be removed from earth. Rev 11:18 B: God will bring to ruin all evil humanity that brings ruin to earth.
Proverbs 2:21,22;10:30 brings out the upright will dwell on the earth and the perfect or righteous will 'remain' or stay on earth, it is the wicked, all evil humanity, that will be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors will be rooted out of the earth. Psalm 92:7 brings out when the wicked, all evil humanity, spring up or sprout like grass or vegetation over the earth...it is that they will be destroyed forever.
God preserves all that love him, but all the wicked, all evil humanity, he will destroy. -Psalm 145:20.
If the earth were like a beautiful home that became infested with rats, the owner would not let the rats destroy the beautiful home but rather the owner would call in an exterminator to get rid of the rats. In this case get rid of all evil humanity or all rat-like people.
If Evil (as in force of) exists then it proves one of two things... either the imperfection of God, or its necessity as part of the Cosmic Order.
From my perspective Evil is not a thing, but is simply harm caused through ignorance of what is good. No one intends to do evil. They cause evil because they place fulfilling desire above those actions that bring the greatest benefit without understanding of the Unity of all things.
From my perspective Evil is not a thing, but is simply harm caused through ignorance of what is good. No one intends to do evil. They cause evil because they place fulfilling desire above those actions that bring the greatest benefit without understanding of the Unity of all things.
Beaudreaux
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If God created everything, including Satan, greed and fear, then isn't HE the root of all evil?
Beaudreaux
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God created Satan as a perfect spirit creation. Angels like Adam and Eve were created with free will. Satan, like Adam, abused his gift of free will and Satan turned himself into a Satan or resister of God. Satan had many angels fall with him into sin. Ezekiel 28:13-19
Evil in Scripture is not always synonymous with wrongdoing.
God used an 'evil' that brought 'calamity' to evildoers such as at the Red Sea.
Thought Criminal
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footprints
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LOL the root of evil is the human brain. Human intelligence. It is also the root of good.
Do you even know what those words mean?
Omnipotence (from Latin: Omni Potens: "all power") is unlimited power.
Well hello!!!!!!!!!!! He created the universe and still sustains it today. Also Jehovah has stood from times indefinate to times indefinate. What does that say about being all powerful?
Omniscience (pronounced /ɒmˈnɪsiəns/)[1] (or omniscient point-of-view in writing) is the capacity to know everything infinitely, or at least everything that can be known about a character including thoughts, feelings, life and the universe, etc
He can read hearts and knows what you need before you do. So this tells us that he is also this.
But people take it to mean that he must have known the future. That by creating that test or trial he would know this was to all happen. Maybe he looked and saw the good to start with, but then later they (adam and Eve) allowed their hearts to harden and then thats why they sinned.
ZYou miss all concept of what you are talking about by not studying the bible. But by studying what some guy told someone else who told someone else who told you. Its Chinese Whispers all over again.
READ the BIBLE, It clears a heap of mess up. If read looking at it in God's view and not that view that a HUMAN has put into your head from misinterpretation of scripture ad traditions of men
Thought Criminal
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Omniscience means being all-knowing. If he doesn't know what I'm about to right, he's simply not all-knowing.
TC
"Gift" When someone gives you a free 'gift' are you not entitled to do with it what you want ?
When our Creator knows the finale (Isa 46:10) it is not talking about the final outcome of each and every person. We definitely know the outcome or end of Matt 24:14 is about the Good News of God's kingdom being a witness to all nations before the end of all badness on earth will finally come. (Psalm 92:7)
Matt 25:40,45 has not happened yet, but please notice the judgment basis of the separation of those on Jesus left and those on his right is by the reaction of people not only to the message of the kingdom as being Good News, but judging also by the treatment to Jesus 'brothers' on earth that are bringing that Good News at that time of separation.
This is where the 'gift' of free will has allowed our Creator to give us the opportunity to use our gift to choose to be on Jesus right hand of favor or not.
Definitely, the 1000-year rule of Jesus over earth will come, but as for those individuals living or alive on earth at the start of that time it is each one's use of his own free will to choose sides that will determine one's individual outcome.
The righteous will keep on living or remain alive right into Jesus Millennial Rule whereas the rest face destruction. Proverbs 2:21,22;10:30
What would be the need, or basis, for Jesus to do any judging if the final outcome was already known beforehand? _______________
Who would need a judge after a judgment has already been made?
God has chosen Not to use his foreknowledge in general on individuals.
Like Adam, we have the opportunity to obey God or not. Adam choose independence from God, and God honored Adam's choice because of the gift or present God gave mankind of voluntary free will of choice.
The bad earth-wide situation today is showing that choosing independence from God does not bring Peace on Earth on. Jesus, as king of God's kingdom, can and will usher in Peace on Earth toward men of goodwill.
The choice is ours and ours alone to make.
I found the dcitionary example of Omniscience... look it up for yourself if you dont beleive me.....