• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

The Real Root of All Evil

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
And what better way to better oneself than through Gods inspired word and living the life he wants us to live>

Can't we see by the daily news that where there is an absence of obeying the laws, standards, morals, and principles of Scripture is resulting in badness?

Since all of God's way of living is summed up in the kingly or royal law ( James 2:8) to love neighbor as self, who was ever arrested for breaking that law?

Who can improve on Jesus Sermon on the Mount?
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
Satan was invented by the guilty as a means of passing off ones actions against the God they worship to an external source.

Its all to easy and pathetic to blame satan for ones problems.

What the bible should teach is that we should take responsibility for our actions and learn from them rather than repeating them constantly and palming the blame off to something else to make ourselves feel better.
 

imaginaryme

Active Member
Can't we see by the daily news that where there is an absence of obeying the laws, standards, morals, and principles of Scripture is resulting in badness?
Absolutely, positively, beyond the shadow of a doubt - this is false. Scripture states the love of money is the root of all evil, and this prophecy is revealed when one is ready to understand that the "daily news" is a fabrication of global banking interests. I've seen too much news, I've read to much history; but, hey, if one looks towards me for guidance, I have absolutely no problem preaching the gospel of anarchy. Burn it all. Burn the church, burn the bank, burn the government; burn it all... :D

Did not Jesus kick the moneychangers out of the temple? Did not Jesus speak of removing the plank from one's own eye before the mote in another's? As far as I am concerned, the only validation Christianity has to speak of morality in the modern world would be if Christians were to first remove this plank of vested money interests from the church. But Christians follow neither Christ nor Scripture, they follow the dictates of their ministers; they are being ad-ministered. :D
 

.lava

Veteran Member
Fear and greed.

Anything else, including religion, are merely tools in the implementation of evil - not the root cause.

That being said, religion is a tool which seems to be particularly well-suited for making people willing to do evil.

i find it difficult to believe you assume fear and greed have no roots. i mean, really? :)




.
 

zenzero

Its only a Label
Friend ATS,

The Real Root of All Evil

If you can explain what you consider EVIL and WHY, shall clarify your query.

Personal understanding is that there is nothing as EVIL or SACRED!

Love & rgds
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Satan was invented by the guilty as a means of passing off ones actions against the God they worship to an external source.

Its all to easy and pathetic to blame satan for ones problems.

What the bible should teach is that we should take responsibility for our actions and learn from them rather than repeating them constantly and palming the blame off to something else to make ourselves feel better.

The world says that the devil made me do it. Devil may tempt, but as James (1:14,15) brings to our attention we are responsible for our actions.

Who corrupted the people of Deuteronomy 32:5? Wasn't it themselves?

Doesn't the Golden Rule imply being responsible for our own actions?
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
Fear and greed.

Anything else, including religion, are merely tools in the implementation of evil - not the root cause.

That being said, religion is a tool which seems to be particularly well-suited for making people willing to do evil.

I think we can boil it down even further and say self-importance is the root of fear and greed.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Absolutely, positively, beyond the shadow of a doubt - this is false. Scripture states the love of money is the root of all evil, and this prophecy is revealed when one is ready to understand that the "daily news" is a fabrication of global banking interests. I've seen too much news, I've read to much history; but, hey, if one looks towards me for guidance, I have absolutely no problem preaching the gospel of anarchy. Burn it all. Burn the church, burn the bank, burn the government; burn it all... :D

Did not Jesus kick the moneychangers out of the temple? Did not Jesus speak of removing the plank from one's own eye before the mote in another's? As far as I am concerned, the only validation Christianity has to speak of morality in the modern world would be if Christians were to first remove this plank of vested money interests from the church. But Christians follow neither Christ nor Scripture, they follow the dictates of their ministers; they are being ad-ministered. :D

Twice Jesus kicked the money changers out of God's House of Worship.

The so-called Christianity of today is a far cry from the 1st-century Christianity of the Bible. What we see today is a mixture or fusion of old pagan ideas and beliefs with Christian names or labels on them. Not what Jesus actually taught.

Weren't the religious leaders of Jesus day also corrupt according to Jesus words to them at 23rd chapter of Matthew? See also Mark 7:7; Matthew 15:9.

The world's religious sector is described as a religious 'queen' at Rev 18:7.
A queen that lives in luxury and thinks she will never see mourning.
Please notice at Rev (17:17) that God will put into the hearts of the world's political rulers or 'kings' (Rev 17:2) to one day quickly turn on the world's religious queen.

The United Nations sees a dangerous religious climate brewing in the world in the form of religious terrorism, and perhaps with a bad economy they will want the wealth the world's religions have amassed. With backing the U.N. could be strengthened to do exactly that.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
*cough cough* King of Tyrus *cough cough*

There is a two-fold application:

At Ezekiel 28:13,14,15 the King of Tyre (Tyrus) this Tyrian Ruler was not in the paradise of Eden. The king was not the covering or anointed cherub (angel) to oversee the paradise Garden of Eden. The king was not perfect until lawlessness was found in him, etc.
 

OneThatGotAway

Servant of Yahweh God Almighty
Fear and greed.

Anything else, including religion, are merely tools in the implementation of evil - not the root cause.

That being said, religion is a tool which seems to be particularly well-suited for making people willing to do evil.

Shabbath Shaluum,

The root of evil is the goal of Shatan (The Devil): To be The God Almighty.
Is this same root that Shatan has enticed mankind from the beginning.
Evil and greed goes hand-in-hand. The desire for evil only leads to greed.
Evil is desiring something that was not meant to be for that person.
In this case, Shatan's case: Being The God Almighty.
Today, many men desire to be their own god to a certain degree; thus achieving greed to a certain degree. Yes, some will use religion to achieve their goal.
However, in the beginning: True Religion has always been used to show good everywhere. :angel2:

OTGA
Obed YHWH
 

Jeremiah

Well-Known Member
Fear and greed.

Anything else, including religion, are merely tools in the implementation of evil - not the root cause.

That being said, religion is a tool which seems to be particularly well-suited for making people willing to do evil.


Sounds like an oversimplification to me. I would imagine, like most everything else, unmoral behavioral patterns are a result of a variety of different environmental and biological influences and that no single thing is "the root of all evil".
 
Last edited:

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Desire and Fear are two sides of the same coin. The one entails the other. And the one is not when the other is not.
 

mohammed_beiruti

Active Member
Fear and greed.

Anything else, including religion, are merely tools in the implementation of evil - not the root cause.

That being said, religion is a tool which seems to be particularly well-suited for making people willing to do evil.

lets symbolize following

human = Iron
fear = beeing hammered
greed= beeing heated
faith(relegion) = energy balance inside iron atom between electrons and proton

if that human has fear and greed his faith will be affected (unless he strenghthen his faith)

Qura'an Ch.57:25
25. We sent aforetime our apostles with Clear Signs and sent down with them the Book and the Balance (of Right and Wrong), that men may stand forth in justice; and We sent down Iron, in which is (material for) mighty war, as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allah may test who it is that will help, Unseen, Him and His apostles: For Allah is Full of Strength, Exalted in Might (and able to enforce His Will).
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
God IS love.... There is no fear in love, but perfect love throws fear outside, because fear exercises a restraint. Indeed, he that is under fear has not been made perfect in love. We love because God first loved us.
If anyone makes the statement: "I love God" and yet is hating his brother, he is a liar. For he who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot be loving God, whom he has not seen. And this commandment we have from him, that the one who loves God should be loving his brother also.
-First John chapter Four
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Sounds like an oversimplification to me. I would imagine, like most everything else, unmoral behavioral patterns are a result of a variety of different environmental and biological influences and that no single thing is "the root of all evil".

That being said, could you please illustrate a few "unmoral behavioral patterns" which are not rooted in fear and/or greed?
 
Top