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The reasons why Islamic women wear the Veil

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Thanks for the info

You are welcome. I've always admired Islamic rules and I do think that polygamy is marvelous. In fact we all know that men are naturally inclined to fall in love with more than a woman. That's why lots of men have mistresses.
Polygamy solves this issue: because I think that a man has the right to have two women . But as for sex, I hope Islam forces men to satisfy the two wives equally.

If a man has the necessary sexual strength to satisfy two women on the same night, he has the right to marry two women.
(I mean in the hypothesis that both wives feel like having sex that night. It would be unfair to leave either of them unsatisfied)
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
You are welcome. I've always admired Islamic rules and I do think that polygamy is marvelous. In fact we all know that men are naturally inclined to fall in love with more than a woman. That's why lots of men have mistresses.
Polygamy solves this issue: because I think that a man has the right to have two women . But as for sex, I hope Islam forces men to satisfy the two wives equally.

If a man has the necessary sexual strength to satisfy two women on the same night, he has the right to marry two women.
(I mean in the hypothesis that both wives feel like having sex that night. It would be unfair to leave either of them unsatisfied)

Just for the record, Quraan says that if you can't do justice between them, marry only one. It is the only book which have the statement " marry only one"
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Just for the record, Quraan says that if you can't do justice between them, marry only one. It is the only book which have the statement " marry only one"

And yet people look up the pediphile prophet who had many wives and treat women like property.
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
And yet people look up the pediphile prophet who had many wives and treat women like property.

When the prophet had this much wives the verses were not revealed yet.

People at that time used to have more than 10 wives.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
When the prophet had this much wives the verses were not revealed yet.

People at that time used to have more than 10 wives.

Does not matter.

We get muslims in here defending pediphilia because of him.

And it does not address the fact women in these muslim countries are treated like property.
 

The Neo Nerd

Well-Known Member
And anyone killing a person it is as if he killed the whole of humanity. Do you know the source of that statement? The Quraan.

Being a muslim is defined by what Quraan tells you to do and by your heart. Not by what you say you are.

I am not making excuses. The deal is that some people are forcing women and oppressing women while majority is not.

Which of them is the true Islam?

Well surely the ones who are forcing and oppressing... Why? because if fits the way you want to see Islam.

No one gives a **** what the quraan says.

Muslims are doing these things.

Go tell a woman who has been beaten, raped and imprisoned whilst the her attackers go free "it is alright because those men are not real muslims". Go read the quraan to her. I am sure that will make her feel so much better.

Go tell her children "I know you mis your mummy, but it is alright because the men who beat,raped and imprisoned her are not real muslims. Here see this passage in the quraan, it proves they are not."

I have said it before and i will say it again "As fundamentalism increases, empathy decreases"
 
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Sabour

Well-Known Member
No one gives a **** what the quraan says.

Muslims are doing these things.

Go tell a woman who has been beaten, raped and imprisoned whilst the her attackers go free "it is alright because those men are not real muslims". Go read the quraan to her. I am sure that will make her feel so much better.

Go tell her children "I know you mis your mummy, but it is alright because the men who beat,raped and imprisoned her are not real muslims. Here see this passage in the quraan, it proves they are not."

I have said it before and i will say it again "As fundamentalism increases, empathy decreases"

Stop the non sense you are writing.

We are here discussing religions and we are talking about things in general.

Do you see me standing here and saying its okay to rape people?

If it annoys you that much than don't comment.

In order for a person to be a muslims he has to follow the Quraan. You start by saying no one gives a **** what the Quraan says but muslims are doing this and that. Well it does matter what the Quraan says because Quraan is what defines a muslim.

I am sorry that things are not the way that you want.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
The point is that everything Allah asks us to do is for our benefit and has the reasons. Take eating pork and its effect on the health for example.

And about reducing the risk of getting rape, this is not the main reason perhaps, but actually it does.

Do you have any studies or statistics showing that wearing a veil reduces the risk of getting raped?
 

The Neo Nerd

Well-Known Member
Stop the non sense you are writing.

We are here discussing religions and we are talking about things in general.

Do you see me standing here and saying its okay to rape people?

If it annoys you that much than don't comment.

In order for a person to be a muslims he has to follow the Quraan. You start by saying no one gives a **** what the Quraan says but muslims are doing this and that. Well it does matter what the Quraan says because Quraan is what defines a muslim.

I am sorry that things are not the way that you want.

Do you follow the quraan word for word?

Do you practise islam the same way it was practised upon its inception?

People are doing horrible things in the name of islam. Who are you to say your interpretation of islam is any more right than theirs.

What i object to is that, instead of defending the people who are being mistreated, you are defending your religion.

You are choosing religion over people. You have no empathy.
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
Do you follow the quraan word for word?

Do you practise islam the same way it was practised upon its inception?

People are doing horrible things in the name of islam. Who are you to say your interpretation of islam is any more right than theirs.

What i object to is that, instead of defending the people who are being mistreated, you are defending your religion.

You are choosing religion over people. You have no empathy.

Are we talking about a certain case that happened and you saw me not sympathizing and defending the people? We are discussing matters in general, we are not referring to a certain accident for you to judge my intentions.

Islam is not a matter of personal interpretation. The word of God is not for us for everyone to understand the way he likes.

I repeat the people that are doing horrible things in the name of Islam aren't muslims and muslims are standing up against that.

And it is not religion vs people for me to pick a side. There is not a single religion about killing what so ever.
 

beenie

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
If the men are barbaric in some places of the world, I think it is good that you cover up and hide the beauty of women, if the men cannot control themselves.

Its a shame this primitive behaviour is even tollerated in this modern age.

It would be ideal if men would get used to seeing some skin and *gasp* hair, and get the hell over themselves. Covering the women is only enabling the beast.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
It would be ideal if men would get used to seeing some skin and *gasp* hair, and get the hell over themselves. Covering the women is only enabling the beast.

I hope that these cultures evolved forward sooner, rather then later.


I agree with you


I was fishing for answers from the boys ;)
 

outhouse

Atheistically
The word of God is not for us for everyone to understand the way he likes.

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That's the problem with your fundamentalism, you think you are justified for any action, or reaction, right or wrong.


And you have no idea what a gods word is. :facepalm:


What if god is just mythology? Because at this point in time, no god exist scientifically or historically or currently. And your plagiarized version of god surely should require some evidence for you to find belief.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I hope that these cultures evolved forward sooner, rather then later.


I agree with you


I was fishing for answers from the boys ;)

Religion has nothing to do with Culture. Western Culture is much more different than Eastern Culture. In fact, I read a document where an Arabian geographer described the Emirate of Cordoba, that is Spain when it was dominated by Muslims.
And Muslim women used to wear make-up, sexy clothes and so on.
and we are talking about the Middle Ages.

so...please...religion is not about cultural traditions. And the veil IS a cultural tradition. It is sad to acknowledge that when Muslims come to Europe, they immediately become modern about sexuality.

Source:
http://www.musulmanesandaluces.org/hemeroteca/59/La%20mujer%20en%20al-Andalus.htm

Era costumbre de aquellas mujeres presentarse en las reuniones maquilladas, adornadas y perfumadas. Las peluqueras no escatimaban ningún esfuerzo en embellecer a sus clientes, peinándolas con los mejores moños. Para sacar partido a su belleza, las mujeres se aplicaban exquisitos perfumes (al-`itr), fragancias (asnan), agua de rosas (ma'al-ward) y agua de azahar (ma'zhar). Se depilaban las cejas y las piernas y se pintaban tatuajes con una serie de utensilios como al-minsas, al-mintaj y al-minqas.
I hope you understand Spanish


and when Sicily was Islamic, women dressed like this
Costume_Odalisca_Araba_NEFFY_SEC7424_thumb.jpg

 
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