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The Return of Christ
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I think it's true. The reason is both Quran and hadiths say the same thing. As well, I believe the Gospels are over all sublime and the word of God.
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I'm a believer of Jesus, but not the Paulinian side of Christianity so I don't believe in the rapture, Armageddon, and all that. I believe "Jesus" or the eternal soul we know by that name "may" return when all other souls have reached sanctification in this worldly life as he did. He was the first, IMB, to break the cycle of reincarnation and the progression of soul perfection. I also feel it could have been that he did not realize he would endure to the end, so his return may have been in reference to his next incarnation. But although he cried "why have you forsaken me?" he did not lose his faith, and became "the firstborn of the dead."
Tomef
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Bit late, eh? Typically when it gets to around the 2,000 year mark after someone says listen, I’ll be back with like loads of angels before some of you die (or ‘just going to the shop’), then it might be time to wonder if he got lost somewhere. So, in general I think Christians are a bit too optimistic.
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Jimmy
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Maybe he got lost at Quickie Mart
It just reminds me of all the other old stories that tell of some divine figure returning.
I think every group of guides have at least one who survives from them.
From the successors of Adam (a), you have Idris (Enoch) (a). From Ahlulbayt (a) of Musa (a) and Haroun (a), you have Elyas (Elijah) (a) and Isa (a) that survive.
There is a concept of "Baqeen" "(those who remain) in Surah Saffat. All such are offspring of Nuh (a) while Bani-Israel for example is said to be from offspring of people carried with Nuh (a).
Khidr (a) is also alive and most likely he was from Ahlulbayt (a) of Ibrahim (a).
I believe the 313 momineen with Imam Mahdi (a) are all chosen guides of the past including Isa (a) (Jesus). They are all security givers.
From the successors of Adam (a), you have Idris (Enoch) (a). From Ahlulbayt (a) of Musa (a) and Haroun (a), you have Elyas (Elijah) (a) and Isa (a) that survive.
There is a concept of "Baqeen" "(those who remain) in Surah Saffat. All such are offspring of Nuh (a) while Bani-Israel for example is said to be from offspring of people carried with Nuh (a).
Khidr (a) is also alive and most likely he was from Ahlulbayt (a) of Ibrahim (a).
I believe the 313 momineen with Imam Mahdi (a) are all chosen guides of the past including Isa (a) (Jesus). They are all security givers.
@King Phenomenon , pretty much, yes.
I don't view it as anymore special or important than any other religion's stories.
I don't view it as anymore special or important than any other religion's stories.
Jimmy
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Not asking if you think it's special I'm asking what you get out of it. I mean it's totally cool if you don't get anything out of it.
Trailblazer
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What it means to Christians is that Jesus in will come down in the physical clouds with the same body He had when He ascended into the clouds, but Jesus never promised to return to earth, not once in the New Testament. Jesus said His work was finished here and He was no more in the world.
John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
John 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more.
John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
That means that the 'return of Christ' has to be another Person.
As a Baha'i, I believe that Baha'u'llah was the return of Christ that was promised to the Christians in the New Testament and the messiah that was promised to the Jews in the Old Testament..
Trailblazer
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... or maybe he got caught up in the clouds.
Jimmy
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Perhaps not much more than the thought of the commonalities of various faiths.
Jimmy
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Jesus spoke of his second coming several times in the Bible.
rocala
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To be honest, I usually think how unimaginative and grasping these sad cases are.
Jimmy
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So these commonalities is that Divine figures will return. Now that we've established other religions believe this as well I'll go back to my original question. when you hear people talk of divine figures returning what do you think it really means?
Jimmy
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Thanks for sharin
That's not quite the same question, but I'll answer it anyways.
There could be a chance a divine figure will return. There's also a chance it'll signal in a change of an era.
I doubt any of it will be as literal as any religion claims; I assume its symbolic.