the right religion

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

1. You need to say whom you are replying to.


2. This is the General Religious DEBATES Forum.



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Welcome to-.
It seems that the words of provocation are also useful
Sorry you
You don't you believe in religion
You are free and live in intellectual freedom
This is a wonderful thing
You believe the principles of equality and freedom
And humanity
And you learned
Any of the religions is close to most of the principles of religious freedom
Any of the religions is the closest to human concepts

 

[Muffled]

The subject clearly
Religions have indeed
How proven
And subject does not need great philosophy if you does not believe in religion, leave the topic
Here the topic for people who believe in religion
Every religion says he possesses the truth
I think that Christianity and Judaism only have truth
It is incredible that it return to the teachings of all religion
Christianity and Judaism are coincident
While Islam is different from them too
This is what I think

I believe all religions may have some truth but that doesn't make them the right religion.

For instance as a Christian I believe in re-incarnation which is usually held to by a Hindu belief but in my evaluation a true one but that doesn't make Hinduism the right religion.

 

[1robin]

It is not a train wreck, - it is truth.


You are coming from a believer standpoint, but, you have not proven anything to us, and the supernatural stuff makes it even more impossible.



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For some reason God values faith. Faith precludes proof. There is no objective proof to give you (not that I think it would make the difference as many who had it did not change their mind). I however have and have given thousands of posts with mountains of evidence. It is not a proof or evidence problem. Many with the least evidence have the greatest faith and those who had actual proof chose not to believe. It is the heart that views the evidence that makes the difference.

Your analogy is not accurate nor even responsible. It uses the same tired tactics of semantic manipulation. It uses the spaghetti monster specifically because that concept is always associated with absurdity. That is its function. Second it demands what the claim necessarily can't provide and I think it does so by design. People who go to Mars can't prove what they saw there and you know that. That is the point. Whatever evidence your given you arbitrarily raise the bar at least one level beyond it. Third my analogy was about a type of claim and required no revision what ever. It was to demonstrate the relative massive difference in quality between experience and speculation. Your ridiculous counter analogy did nothing to make that any more clear. Fourth flying spaghetti monster are not coherent or logical entities and they have no evidence of any kind good or bad. It was an intention degradation of the actual subject God so as to artificially introduce absurdity.

I wish there was a rule here that you guys can't mangle my original claims into something thought to be more artificially convenient.

 

[1robin]

No one has the copy-right on simple things like do not murder (unless ..), do not lie, do not steal, do not engage in adultery, etc. Which religion do they belong to? Or you think some have invented these?

It is irrelevant what religion includes moral truth. It is relevant what being objectively founds moral truth.

 

[1robin]

I believe all religions may have some truth but that doesn't make them the right religion.

For instance as a Christian I believe in re-incarnation which is usually held to by a Hindu belief but in my evaluation a true one but that doesn't make Hinduism the right religion.

You can't hold to Christian doctrine and re-incarnation. They are mutually exclusive.

Hebrews 9:27King James Version (KJV)

27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

 

[Shuttlecraft]

..as a Christian I believe in re-incarnation..

But that's not a Christian belief!
The bible's quite clear that when our bodies die, we sort of "sleep" til judgement day..
"Don't grieve for those asleep,for they sleep in Jesus" (1 Thess 4:13/14)

Then we get a wake-up call and become spiritual beings-
"Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God.....
In the twinkling of an eye the dead shall be raised imperishable and we shall be changed" (1 Cor 15:42-52)

BOIINNGG!!

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

I respect any religion not trespass on others in written texts and actions taken
That dialogue with them is easier than religion to kill you
And the words to kill you and your persecution
So I respect any religion, any ideology not trespass on other people's texts
Faith-based matters like finding God
Type of machine
This can be a dialogue of reason when there is common ground for dialogue, including respect for others
And I mean respect for others to come to dialogue with any says I of unbelievers
Here for initiating dialogue
I also go to the dialogue, but if I say I am better than others
The value of dialogue because it will be a dialogue of the deaf

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

When the humanitarian principles and carries the pagan morality of humanity
Be better than the religion of God is one and he also says that we kill everyone in his Prophet Muhammad
Yes I respect any religion __a in killing and fighting even if Buddhist or Hindu
Because God is inherent in their minds
While the CTA aayaat and fighting and Jihad and **** and *****
This means that God is not God and that lies in their minds is the devil
So I know the true religion

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

China is a large country and its history and culture
Never heard of in the history of terrorism beyond its borders
They believe in a religion does not believe we are doing
But
Do the Chinese attacked another human being
Besbban his religion tells him you will be master of the world
I brought you my
Download myths and God don't know her Chinese House
Latest news says that there was a Chinese province where Islam has spread
It is msadralarhab in the news we hear about China

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

When the two men with me one atheist and Muslim
Dialogue with non-religious have an easier dialogue with Muslim
For the non-religious gods you infidel
But he says that our minds to believe myths

But I say the Muslim infidel
This is a very large difference
La religion without any thought to believe persecution
In dialogues with non-religious followers of other religions
Mixing Christianity and Islam waihodih
Put them in one basket
This distortion to Christianity and Judaism
We cleared the human mind from this
Yes, Christians have errors
Yes, Christians have ambitions
But it is not true that Christian thought holds orders to kill awalktal and it is not true that Christianity or Judaism encourage hatred and racism
So I guessed the Gentiles
If this machine is just not ordering the man to kill his brother man

Because the machine is like Jesus also
When the great commandment is love
This pagan matches my faith
While admittedly not be or become identical with my faith
He says fighting Jews and Christians
This explicit appeal murder
Yes, the Hindu God of God

 

[1robin]

When the two men with me one atheist and Muslim
Dialogue with non-religious have an easier dialogue with Muslim
For the non-religious gods you infidel
But he says that our minds to believe myths

But I say the Muslim infidel
This is a very large difference
La religion without any thought to believe persecution
In dialogues with non-religious followers of other religions
Mixing Christianity and Islam waihodih
Put them in one basket
This distortion to Christianity and Judaism
We cleared the human mind from this
Yes, Christians have errors
Yes, Christians have ambitions
But it is not true that Christian thought holds orders to kill awalktal and it is not true that Christianity or Judaism encourage hatred and racism
So I guessed the Gentiles
If this machine is just not ordering the man to kill his brother man

Because the machine is like Jesus also
When the great commandment is love
This pagan matches my faith
While admittedly not be or become identical with my faith
He says fighting Jews and Christians
This explicit appeal murder
Yes, the Hindu God of God

I think I agree with you many times but you are the hardest poster to understand I have ever seen. Is English like a third language to you or something. You have one interesting style.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

I think I agree with you many times but you are the hardest poster to understand I have ever seen. Is English like a third language to you or something. You have one interesting style.

English

Thank you my friend
There is no full agreement on all the details
I think or believe
Pagan religions
And people who don't they believe in any religion
I respect their ideas over for the following reasons
They do not advertise any hostility against Christians or Jews
They don't they declare that the fighting is a means of spreading their religion
The suggestions of goodness does not say they are fighting on behalf of God
Can dialogue with them and communicate with them
So this side I respect religious and pagan
And if you say what is the difference between Pagan and Muslim
I say
Muslims accept the black stone
And pagan worships an Idol without a soul
Pagan don't say that you should fight the Jews and Christians
While Muslim says fighting Jews and Christians
Islam encourages hatred
Islam means
That man is able to launch the freedom to lust and under the cover of legitimate
In its Europe stand today on the zero on the left
Permission
The best religion is the teachings of love
I am in love with the teachings of the Gospel and with no education corresponds to the Gospel in this education
Even if Pagan
Accept my respect

 

[Ingledsva]

For some reason God values faith. Faith precludes proof. There is no objective proof to give you (not that I think it would make the difference as many who had it did not change their mind). I however have and have given thousands of posts with mountains of evidence. It is not a proof or evidence problem. Many with the least evidence have the greatest faith and those who had actual proof chose not to believe. It is the heart that views the evidence that makes the difference.

Your analogy is not accurate nor even responsible. It uses the same tired tactics of semantic manipulation. It uses the spaghetti monster specifically because that concept is always associated with absurdity. That is its function. Second it demands what the claim necessarily can't provide and I think it does so by design. People who go to Mars can't prove what they saw there and you know that. That is the point. Whatever evidence your given you arbitrarily raise the bar at least one level beyond it. Third my analogy was about a type of claim and required no revision what ever. It was to demonstrate the relative massive difference in quality between experience and speculation. Your ridiculous counter analogy did nothing to make that any more clear. Fourth flying spaghetti monster are not coherent or logical entities and they have no evidence of any kind good or bad. It was an intention degradation of the actual subject God so as to artificially introduce absurdity.

I wish there was a rule here that you guys can't mangle my original claims into something thought to be more artificially convenient.

BULL! You started it with a statement of fact, and you do not have facts, you have BELIEF. Therefore I changed it to the REALITY! A mythic being, miracles, dead rising, etc., and people having real reason to doubt the story.


You would not believe their Flying Spaghetti Monster - miracle , dead rising story, -

and in like kind, why would we believe your mythic being, Jesus Messiah, miracle, dead rising story?

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An analogy would be like a hundred people who have been to Mars and say it is cold coming home and having 500 tell them they are mistaken. Which group has the proper grounding for knowing.

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No, not really.

More like 100 people who have been to Mars and say they met Flying Spaghetti Monster, and he performed impossible miracles, brought one of them back to life, etc., - and 500 saying to them - I don't think so! Prove it!

 

[Shuttlecraft]

You would not believe their Flying Spaghetti Monster - miracle , dead rising story, -
and in like kind, why would we believe your mythic being, Jesus Messiah, miracle, dead rising story?

I think you'll find that the FSM never walked the earth and wasn't seen by millions like like JC was!
You'll be telling us Santa Claus existed next..

 

[Viker]

I think you'll find that the FSM never walked the earth and wasn't seen by millions like like JC was!
You'll be telling us Santa Claus existed next..

Saint Nicholas existed. It's just modern culture turned him into a fictitious character from who he originally was.

 

[Ingledsva]

I think you'll find that the FSM never walked the earth and wasn't seen by millions like like JC was!
You'll be telling us Santa Claus existed next..

You keep telling us this happened - but without any actual proof of such happening. Even if a man named Jesus existed, the miracles and rising dead are just myth.

And why would I tell you Santa existed? Santa's "components" can be traced back to Northern Shaman, their reindeer, and Amanita muscaria use. I think I can fly!


EDIT - Forgot to add, - for those wondering, - yes these people worshiped Oden.


Our ancestors knew this. Just walk into any antiques store that sells Christmas items. You will find Santa with the amanita mushroom!


Pictures - -

https://www.google.com/search?q=San...dh4HoDQ&ved=0CB8QsAQ&biw=1067&bih=527&dpr=1.5


https://www.google.com/search?q=San...w=1067&bih=527&dpr=1.5#tbm=isch&q=sami+people





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[Shuttlecraft]

..Even if a man named Jesus existed, the miracles and rising dead are just myth..

Prove it..

 

[Ingledsva]

Prove it..

As you have been told, over and over, - we don't have to prove myth to be myth.


You want us to believe the myth, - it is up to you to prove to us that your myth is true.


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[Shuttlecraft]

..You want us to believe the myth, - it is up to you to prove to us that your myth is true..

Why should I "want" you to believe anything? If you and anybody else refuse Jesus's invite to the party there'll be more cream and jam sponge cake for the rest of us..

Jesus said- "The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son...he told his servants- go out and invite to the banquet anyone you find" (Matt 22:2)

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Saint Nicholas existed. It's just modern culture turned him into a fictitious character from who he originally was.

Santa Claus is largely based on Northern European lore and folk tradition. I've seen it said that Santa is Odin, Thor or a combination of both.