the right religion

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Everyone has a certain position of religion
There are two types of Christianity
Christian East
And which took all the persecutions of Islam
And the Christian West
That they make enjoy me from Islamic persecution
Christian East lived scared sword of Islam
Websbbsiov Islam and lower echelon fondettes collapsed one after another over the past 1,400 years
In the West and in the world
No one speaks of religion freely refuse to accept but in any Muslim society could not even thinking right
I'm here with you
Tested and studied Islam
And I am a Christian from birth, too
But I am a Christian date accepted all persecution of Islam
For this lankol you refuse or stand out
But say you call
If gharrkm Islam, you will die
The high life
And beautiful life
And tolerance is not comparable in Western societies
Why convert to Christian Europe in the time period of its history
The denial of this religious heritage will bring you destruction
Beware
It is possible that he converted to Buddhism
If doctrine believes in peace
And any idea of peace believe it believes
Christian essence of love
And any religion or idea, does not believe in peace and encourage the fighting shifted and hate laao'mn by
My safes you, Europeans, Asians and all people in the world
To know the meaning of my words
Words of man does not have his dinner gland
Just loving you to pay attention to your door
This freedom does not mean you are stvkadoha but the next probate formalities
Hear the words of Jesus when he said of their fruits you will know them
Listen and listen

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Most people born to MIT graduates know the quadratic equation. Most born in Zimbabwe do not. Is the quadratic any less true? Not to mention Christianity's explosion in a nation hostile to it and conquering a powerful empire by conversion not the sword that was intent on destroying it. Is any truth that convinces a majority of those exposed to it, wrong?

You are right that church attendance is down in Europe which says more about the corporatization of religion than faith, since Christian faith adds the equivalent of the population of Nevada per year. Doing so even without Islam's mandating it in the crib or punishing leaving it by death.

Islam is also growing, so does that add to its truth? Muslims are about to hit 2 billion in number. Of course, the number of adherents does not determine the truth of something so that's a useless argument.

I see you're repeating fables about the Roman Empire and its conversion to Christianity, as well.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Islam is also growing, so does that add to its truth? Muslims are about to hit 2 billion in number. Of course, the number of adherents does not determine the truth of something so that's a useless argument.

I see you're repeating fables about the Roman Empire and its conversion to Christianity, as well.

That sexual reproduction one means Islam is spreading and penetration of Islam allows polygamy and divorce also
And the mukhala'ah
In terms of growth by reproduction of Islam is the problem in this area
And spread through reproduction style is followed in Europe
There is a saying from the Emir of Kuwait to the President of France
This is their reputation and I don't know how their health but good as an example dialogue
He said the Kuwaiti Prince
The desert
The French President said
We will take the Presidency of the stomachs of daughters
Have you heard that Europeans!
And its meaning and its significance
You analysis of these words
And how the spread of Islam in Europe and other parts of the world

 

[Viker]

The French President said
We will take the Presidency of the stomachs of daughters

Greatest sentence ever!

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Greatest sentence ever!

I'll say what I heard
Did not read the statement
But I have heard from friends
I speak honestly full


And this sentence in my memory since twenty years ago
The Emir said Kuwait
to French President
It's a very important sentence short and concise
It's the aspirations of Muslims in Europe today

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Greatest sentence ever!

If you are French
I tell you something
Very special idea
Muslims gather in southern France
The Afghanistan day is near and you hear or your children on the Islamist movement demanding independence for this region
In the simplest questions you will be asked to apply the Islamic law
Which means
You will not be able to wear a short dress and able leadership will not bike
It's the great taboo in Islam
Did you know
That Kuwait was prevented from photographing women
Wearing
Don't you know her important issues about the life of the woman in Islam
Therefore, I invite you to reap in your freedom
The basic teachings of the Christian religion or any religion to love
Greetings

 

[Shuttlecraft]

..The basic teachings of the Christian religion or any religion to love

Did the 9/11 hijackers love the 3000 people they killed?
Do ISIS love anybody?
Do Hamas love Israelis?

 

[Muffled]

So Jesus is the barrier which God put in place to keep all the people God doesn't want in Heaven out?

To me this seems exactly what Jesus accused the "Jews" of his time of doing. Placing themselves as a barrier between the people and God.

I believe Jesus is God in the flesh so there is no barrier.

I believe God wants everyone but He isn't forcing anyone albeit the alternative might seem to be compulsion to some.

I beleive Heaven is open because of Jesus but the physical Kingdom of God is open only to those who acknowledge Jesus as Lord and Savior.

I believe the Pharisees were setting up a barrier between people and God but Jesus does not do that. He welcomes all who will come to Him as Lord and Savior.

 

[Muffled]

The right religion is none.

The only path one should treat is a philosophically sound path that promotes wellness and character development

I believe if one does not have Jesus as Lord and Savior one is never on that path.

 

[Muffled]

I feel there is no such thing as a right religion, true religion is only found within each one of us. If there was such thing as a right religion, then who's religion is right, and why, can anyone prove that their religion is the right one beyond all doubt, of course not, each one of us must find our own inner religion, our own inn being, anything else is second hand knowledge, and always objective, this is not religion.

I believe I know what is inside of me and it definitely isn't the right path. The Bible says no-one has anything good inside of them and I believe it.

A religion that promotes good and removes sin is the right religion and Christianity is the only one that qualifies.

My life and that of many others after receiving Jesus are proof.

I believe that is a prejuidiced statement.

I beleive the only way to make Jesus first hand experience is to ask Him to be Lord and Savior.

 

[1robin]

Islam is also growing, so does that add to its truth? Muslims are about to hit 2 billion in number. Of course, the number of adherents does not determine the truth of something so that's a useless argument.

I see you're repeating fables about the Roman Empire and its conversion to Christianity, as well.

1. Islam grows because some of the least able to care for children produce between 3 and 9 per couple while the west produces around 2.
2. Islam mandates a baby is a Muslim before they even know what truth is.
3. Islam in many places will not let you get out without risking your life.
4. Islam is a political necessity. Christianity is not, though at times it might help a bit.
5. Islam is a state enforced faith in many places.


That is just the start but that was not what I said. I said a thing is not false because it is available and believed. I said your argument was incorrect, I did not say it's opposite was necessarily true.

The availability of a concept is irrelevant to it's being true or false. It was just a bad argument. It is actually a genetic fallacy.

Now if you want to evaluate which faith has the most evidence of being true then we can do that but that was not the original topic.

 

[1robin]

I believe if one does not have Jesus as Lord and Savior one is never on that path.

I believe they can be on both. One of the greatest confirmations of my faith is philosophy. However one should never conclude faith from philosophical speculation alone.

 

[Nada]

I believe they can be on both. One of the greatest confirmations of my faith is philosophy. However one should never conclude faith from philosophical speculation alone.

1 Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

The philosophy of this world does not originate with God. Trying to use human wisdom to try to understand godly wisdom makes no sense.Only Gods Word holds the truth, and only by Gods grace can anyone come to understand what God is saying, and obtain an accurate knowledge of the truth.This is by way of the holy spirit.Not by attending Universities or listening to the thoughts of men.

 

[1robin]

1 Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

The philosophy of this world does not originate with God. Trying to use human wisdom to try to understand godly wisdom makes no sense.Only Gods Word holds the truth, and only by Gods grace can anyone come to understand what God is saying, and obtain an accurate knowledge of the truth.This is by way of the holy spirit.Not by attending Universities or listening to the thoughts of men.

That verse was not intended to suggest that all human knowledge is wrong. It was intended to compare man's knowledge with God's as a warning against using the former to contend with the latter. There are mountains of truth outside the bible. Physics works, calculus works, philosophy has principles with no known exceptions. None can be compared to divine knowledge but without extra biblical learning we would still be in the stone age. If I get cancer I will pray then get a CAT scan.

 

[Nada]

That verse was not intended to suggest that all human knowledge is wrong. It was intended to compare man's knowledge with God's as a warning against using the former to contend with the latter. There are mountains of truth outside the bible. Physics works, calculus works, philosophy has principles with no known exceptions. None can be compared to divine knowledge but without extra biblical learning we would still be in the stone age. If I get cancer I will pray then get a CAT scan.

I never claimed that scripture was suggesting what you have stated.All I suggested is that according to scripture human wisdom can never interpret godly wisdom.It is only by grace alone.Those who try to use human wisdom will get nowhere.It is a gift that has to be given to you by God.Thats why God states that the wisdom of this world is foolishness to Him.

This scripture is CEARLY speaking about the wisdom of God.Not the wisdom of other things in the world.

How does God view the “wisdom” offered by human philosophy?

1 Cor. 1:19-25: “It is written: ‘I will make the wisdom of the wise men perish, and the intelligence of the intellectual men I will shove aside.’ Where is the wise man? Where the scribe? Where the debater of this system of things? Did not God make the wisdom of the world foolish? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not get to know God, God saw good through the foolishness [as it appears to the world] of what is preached to save those believing. . . . Because a foolish thing of God [as the world views it] is wiser than men, and a weak thing of God [as the world may see it] is stronger than men.” (Such a viewpoint on God’s part is certainly not arbitrary or unreasonable. He has provided in the Bible, the most widely circulated book in the world, a clear statement of his purpose. He has sent his witnesses to discuss it with all who will listen. How foolish for any creature to think that he has wisdom greater than that of God!)




Philosophy — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

 

[1robin]

I never claimed that scripture was suggesting what you have stated.All I suggested is that according to scripture human wisdom can never interpret godly wisdom.It is only by grace alone.Those who try to use human wisdom will get nowhere.It is a gift that has to be given to you by God.Thats why God states that the wisdom of this world is foolishness to Him.

This is what you said:

The philosophy of this world does not originate with God.

Several things necessarily follow from this.

1. Philosophy if true did not originate from God. Where did truth come from, if not God?
2. Philosophy is all wrong? That is just silly.
3. Philosophy is prevented from commenting on God. Why in the world would this be? Countless theologians have used philosophy for this very purpose. The most important theological text outside the bible was a work of philosophy.
4. Even if true how can you know that philosophy could never reveal anything about God? What is stopping it?
5. Humans do not create truth, they discover it. What is the source of truth?

This scripture is CEARLY speaking about the wisdom of God.Not the wisdom of other things in the world.

How does God view the “wisdom” offered by human philosophy?

1 Cor. 1:19-25: “It is written: ‘I will make the wisdom of the wise men perish, and the intelligence of the intellectual men I will shove aside.’ Where is the wise man? Where the scribe? Where the debater of this system of things? Did not God make the wisdom of the world foolish? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not get to know God, God saw good through the foolishness [as it appears to the world] of what is preached to save those believing. . . . Because a foolish thing of God [as the world views it] is wiser than men, and a weak thing of God [as the world may see it] is stronger than men.” (Such a viewpoint on God’s part is certainly not arbitrary or unreasonable. He has provided in the Bible, the most widely circulated book in the world, a clear statement of his purpose. He has sent his witnesses to discuss it with all who will listen. How foolish for any creature to think that he has wisdom greater than that of God!)

I can't help but conclude from your interpretation that the result will be that God will abolish 2 + 2 = 4, cause and effect, thermodynamics. They are part of our wisdom are they not abolished? If so why would God do that? Was he kidding when he made natural law? Was it April fools? Is the quadratic equation evil and in need of eradication?

This verse instantly means nothing if you apply it literally across the board. Millions of Christians have approached faith through academic study, the bible specifically says to test everything, in evangelism the worst possible thing to do with an atheist is to throw nothing but verses at them, textual criticism, historical evidence, philosophy, science they can get on board with but starting of with what verses say is meaningless to them. I and countless numbers of Christians got close to God by rational study. That last infinite step is all supernatural but I would have never gotten near God without some common sense answers.

Let me ask you give me a one sentence interpretation of that verse.

 

[Nada]

This is what you said: Several things necessarily follow from this.

1. Philosophy if true did not originate from God. Where did truth come from, if not God?
2. Philosophy is all wrong? That is just silly.
3. Philosophy is prevented from commenting on God. Why in the world would this be? Countless theologians have used philosophy for this very purpose. The most important theological text outside the bible was a work of philosophy.
4. Even if true how can you know that philosophy could never reveal anything about God? What is stopping it?
5. Humans do not create truth, they discover it. What is the source of truth?



I can't help but conclude from your interpretation that the result will be that God will abolish 2 + 2 = 4, cause and effect, thermodynamics. They are part of our wisdom are they not abolished? If so why would God do that? Was he kidding when he made natural law? Was it April fools? Is the quadratic equation evil and in need of eradication?

This verse instantly means nothing if you apply it literally across the board. Millions of Christians have approached faith through academic study, the bible specifically says to test everything, in evangelism the worst possible thing to do with an atheist is to throw nothing but verses at them, textual criticism, historical evidence, philosophy, science they can get on board with but starting of with what verses say is meaningless to them. I and countless numbers of Christians got close to God by rational study. That last infinite step is all supernatural but I would have never gotten near God without some common sense answers.

Let me ask you give me a one sentence interpretation of that verse.

I told you were done talking.I did not like how you put demon as the #4 choice of what Jesus could be.

 

[1robin]

I told you were done talking.I did not like how you put demon as the #4 choice of what Jesus could be.

You simply do not have the capacity to terminate my talking. Demon is a possibility but not one with any likelihood. Talk or not, cut this feigned "I am offended garbage" out. It is intellectually dishonest.

 

[Ingledsva]

I told you were done talking. I did not like how you put demon as the #4 choice of what Jesus could be.

You simply do not have the capacity to terminate my talking. Demon is a possibility but not one with any likelihood. Talk or not, cut this feigned "I am offended garbage" out. It is intellectually dishonest.

You need to reread that. He wasn't telling you to shut up.


He obviously just forgot the comma in we're.


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[1robin]

You need to reread that. He wasn't telling you to shut up.


He obviously just forgot the comma in we're.


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Your at least potentially right twice in one day. I am having a terrible dream. I had already realized I misread him though, but was too lazy to fix it.