There is NO love in eternal hell. No one has ever given me a good, convincing argument otherwise.
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There is NO love in eternal hell. No one has ever given me a good, convincing argument otherwise.
AmbiguousGuy
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Nah. God doesn't send anyone anywhere. It looks like you got some bad info somehow.
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
With unconditional love, he will send us to Hell if he pleases, even if we do not fully understand why?
With unconditional love, he will send us to Hell if he pleases, even if we do not fully understand why?
A parent who holds his disobedient child's hand over a hot stove would be arrested and charged with cruelty in most countries. Men are not as merciful or loving as the true God is.
The teaching that God will torment people eternally in Hell is a slander against the true God. The Bible reveals that there is but one true God (John 17:3). He clearly tells us in his Word that "the wages sin pays is death." (Romans 6:23) He also explains that the dead cannot feel, think, or suffer. (Ecclesiastes 9:5,10) The soul dies when the body dies. (Ezekiel 18:4) This God-dishonoring hellfile doctrine has it's roots in pagan religions and was adopted by apostate "Christianity" in the 2nd century CE forward. It is not supported by the Bible and the true religion does not teach this lie.
waitasec
Veteran Member
question is, how would one find out what the true god is?
AmbiguousGuy
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Just ask me. The Holy Spirit tells me everything.
Ok. How can I know which, if any, is the one true God?
waitasec
Veteran Member
wonder if the holy spirit told those parents god would heal their children by faith...
there is no difference between this way of thinking and the thinking that justified people flying into buildings.
our own moral sense will distinguish what is bad behavior done in the name of religion, so what is the point of religion if it can justify just about anything?
Self-improvement, discipline, hope (thus sanity), etc., as long as it's not misused. IOW, personal things.
The true God reveals himself to those searching for Him. Since God gives us the intelligence to investigate our world and to have a spiritual hunger, it is logical that he would provide the means to satisfy that hunger with accurate knowledge. (Matthew 5:3) The Bible reveals God as inviting us to seek for him and really find him. (Acts 17:27,28) The Bible answers the fundamental questions of life:
Why we are here, why there is evil and suffering, what the future will be.
Millions are convinced that the Bible is God's means to reveal himself and his purposes to mankind. Obviously, they needed to be convinced of this by a careful investigation of the Bible's credentials, the evidence that it is God's word.
As for the other gods people worship, they cannot supply such credentials, nor any evidence for their godship.(Isaiah 46:5-10) In contrast, Bible prophecies have proven accurate down till our day.
Only 'cause they're either self-fulfilling (fall of civilization), so vague that they could literally apply to anything, or likely interpolations added later. No one's ever convinced me that prophecies of any kind are genuine.
As mentioned, each person needs to examine the evidence for the Bible's inspiration for himself to determine if it is, indeed, the Word of God. As to Bible prophecies, many are very explicit as to time, place, and what would occur. Cyrus, the conqueror of Babylon, was named by Isaiah some 200 years before the events prophecied took place.(Isaiah 44:28, 45:1-3) Just one example of many.
islam abduallah
Active Member
agree with you , that proves that this piece of bible is a word of god, but not all the bible is the word of god
BruceDLimber
Well-Known Member
That is does, as do various other scriptural works!
IOV there IS only one God, and ALL the great religion worship this same God!
Very true!
INCLUDING, please note, those Biblical prophecies (primarily in Daniel and Revelation) predicting the year of the Advent of the Baha'i Faith and various details about its appearance!
Details are available here: http://www.bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled
What a pity so many folks haven't recognized this yet.
Peace,
Bruce
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Again, this could be an interpolation added later.
The Srimad Bhagavatam (the holy book of Gaudiya Vaishnavas - those who worship Krishna) speaks of the Buddha in the future-tense, and that he'd come to lead people away from the Vedas since they would, at that time, be misused. Accurate prophecy, or interpolation added later?
Muffled
Jesus in me
I suppose then that your idea of love is rewarding evil. Give Hitler a place of honor and congratulate him for the deaths of millions of Jews. I can't identify with that concept of love. It may be allright for you but I have a problem with it.
Muffled
Jesus in me
The Bible and God Himself. Perhaps you would like to share where your info comes from?
Muffled
Jesus in me
If your god is Hitler then I want no part of him.
Bob Dixon
>implying
Now, hold on! Hitler was evil and all, but not even killing millions of people merits ETERNAL TORMENT! Especially not from a loving, understanding God. I'm sure God won't applaud him for his evil and wouldn't leave this unpunished. Yes, Hitler will taste the penalty of a grievous day, but ETERNAL? Hmm...
Also, slippery slope fallacy.
So would I. Hitler was a young, immature soul with MUCH to learn. That soul won't get anywhere near God until he learns what compassion is.
Naraka is a concept in Hindu philosophy and mythology. It's just not eternal, nor is it limited to the afterlife. Hitler would have experienced Naraka while he was still alive; otherwise, why did he commit suicide?