The Sin of Pornography

[Shadow Wolf]

he was asked in an interview if there was a single event early on that turned him from normal to abnormal. he said it started with porn mags when he was a young teen and by the time he was in his young 20s he was into the porn/rape/death films.
if i was making it up as i went i would have said i was implanted by the CIA.

Porn just isn't going to turn someone into a psychopath murderer.

 

[Sutekh]

Yeah probably. Young people need parental guidance, and its reasonable to protect them from seeing porn by accident.

When it comes to parental guidance I think it should be handled differently, many people tend to have this morality instinct of right or wrong which is challenging to overcome this instinct. I think a child should be responsible and understands of what he is doing. If I had a child viewing Porn I wouldn't have a problem with it. As a matter of fact I believe that every child should be raised differently instead of adding in this so called "Parental guidance." You might argue that Parental Guidance is important to make sure that your child isn't doing drugs or alcohol but soon your child might get curious about the taste of alcohol that he or she have never tried, I believe that a person should give his child plenty of freedom to let him experiment various things that he has never done before. Am I personally against drug use? It kindve depends I believe that every person is responsible within his or her actions not mine as I am responsible for my own general well being.

 

[RedDragon94]

Is watching porn a sin? If so, why?

The issue is not whether it is a sin. The question is, is porno real sex? According to some on this thread (if not most) it isn't.

 

[Sutekh]

The question is, is porno real sex?

It's real Sex if you are the actor or actress doing it.

 

[RedDragon94]

It's real Sex if you are the actor or actress doing it.

Not in every video. The industry does have directors.

And not for the viewer.

 

[whirlingmerc]

Yes. Many reasons.

Makes it harder to bond for life to one person or at least makes more obstacles
Demeans women and dehumanizes people

 

[Sutekh]

Not in every video. The industry does have directors.

And not for the viewer.

Well we may never really know that unless if we see it within our own eyes. Even if the director supposedly directs it the actor and actress are still experiencing the sexual acts and sensations even if directed.

 

[CG Didymus]

Is this in the Bible? Got a chapter and verse?

Exactly what is wrong with one's god-given desire to lust?

lust
noun
1[mass noun] Strong sexual desire: ‘he knew that his lust for her had returned’

[in singular] A passionate desire for something: ‘a lust for power’​

verb
[NO OBJECT]
1 Have strong sexual desire for someone:
‘he really lusted after me in those days’

1.1 Have a strong desire for something:
‘pregnant women lusting for pickles and ice cream’

Source: Oxford English Dictionaries​

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Assuming God did create people, then he put the desire for sex in humans. To be overly lustful and intense while having sex is that some evil spirit that is tempting the person or is it an overdose of hormones that God put into some people? And when men get older and things don't work like they used to, is that because they are more spiritual or loss of testosterone?

I think religious people just want to control people from screwing around too much, so they declare anything outside of sex in marriage a sin... but how many of them do it anyway?

 

[jaybird]

He changed his story a number of times. He bs'd interviewers a lot. He never took any responsibility for his crimes and never felt any guilt over them. Mental health and forensics experts know better, though, and so Anti-Social Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder are the best diagnoses for him.

Read: Ted Bundy - Wikipedia

im sure he changed his story a lot but the interview im thinking was at the end, a few months before his death. he was long past the ponit of proclaiming his innocence.
the video i watched on it was how porn is common with most killers and they are all addicted to it mostly to the hard core not so normal stuff.
i dont think porn or sex is a big deal but i think like many things you can take it to far. watching porn when your gf/wife is gone a few days, who cares, watching porn with women getting beat, raped, stabbed and killed is taking it to far.

 

[Brickjectivity]

When it comes to parental guidance I think it should be handled differently, many people tend to have this morality instinct of right or wrong which is challenging to overcome this instinct. I think a child should be responsible and understands of what he is doing. If I had a child viewing Porn I wouldn't have a problem with it. As a matter of fact I believe that every child should be raised differently instead of adding in this so called "Parental guidance." You might argue that Parental Guidance is important to make sure that your child isn't doing drugs or alcohol but soon your child might get curious about the taste of alcohol that he or she have never tried, I believe that a person should give his child plenty of freedom to let him experiment various things that he has never done before. Am I personally against drug use? It kindve depends I believe that every person is responsible within his or her actions not mine as I am responsible for my own general well being.

I am not a parent, but I know one parent over-reacts while another parent under-reacts. There isn't a formula that always works, but there are tips and techniques and forward progress. If I were a parent I would not let my young children get near porn, but I would let them visit a farm or zoo to help them understand how nature works.

 

[Skwim]

Assuming God did create people, then he put the desire for sex in humans. To be overly lustful and intense while having sex is that some evil spirit that is tempting the person or is it an overdose of hormones that God put into some people?

No one's talking about being overly lustful, just lustful. Or is it about lustful "while having sex."


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[Saint Frankenstein]

im sure he changed his story a lot but the interview im thinking was at the end, a few months before his death. he was long past the ponit of proclaiming his innocence.

Did you read the part of the Wikipedia article I linked? He never, ever accepted responsibility for his deeds and blamed everything from porn, to society in general to his family and even the victims themselves! He even tried to blame true crime magazines but then he said to another interviewer that he never really read them in the first place. Porn was not the problem here. He was playing Dobson's dumb *** like he was playing everyone else. Even his defense team likened him to pure evil in the flesh and knew he was playing everyone.

The man was incredibly sick in the head and his attempt to pass the blame is a common feature of his particular sickness. Psychopaths are extreme narcissists. A narcissist can't bear to be seen at fault for their own misdeeds. Similarly, a person with ASPD knows what society considers right or wrong, but they just don't care. Combine the two and you have the classic psychopath. That's what Bundy was. They're liars and manipulators.

the video i watched on it was how porn is common with most killers and they are all addicted to it mostly to the hard core not so normal stuff.

There's no such thing as porn addiction. It's a fantasy that anti-porn religious conservatives have concocted out of nothing.

i dont think porn or sex is a big deal but i think like many things you can take it to far. watching porn when your gf/wife is gone a few days, who cares, watching porn with women getting beat, raped, stabbed and killed is taking it to far.

The latter isn't porn, but gore and shock videos. You can find videos of people being murdered but that has nothing to do with porn and isn't marketed as such. They're not commercially available. So you're just wrong. And you're also using the bs "slippery slope" argument". Watching videos of human sexual behavior does not lead you to become a psychopathic murderer and rapist. That's just laughable.

 

[Brian Schuh]

A case went before our US Supreme Court about whether filming dog fights (which is illegal) is protected under freedom of the press. Which opens wide the question of whether filming a snuff film is protected. Larry Flynt took a bullet to the head for filming the wrong woman.

For those of you who admit you have a problem viewing porn, there is a self help Torah based program on the internet called Guard Your Eyes. Look it up.

One of the 613 mitzvot of Moses is to not engage in impure thoughts and sights.

But in a free society, we argue about whether it is lawful to film something unlawful, like dog fighting.

There is a kosher use of erotica to help married couples be intimate with each other but is available to orthodox Jews only by script from a professional (doctor or otherwise.)

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Which opens wide the question of whether filming a snuff film is protected.

It isn't, because it would involve breaking laws against murder. Duh.

 

[Brian Schuh]

It isn't, because it would involve breaking laws against murder. Duh.

There are laws against cruelty to animals, like dog fighting. But we argue over whether it is lawful to film cruelty to animals in the Supreme Court. You believe you know more than a Justice of the Supreme Court? Like, duh.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

There are laws against cruelty to animals, like dog fighting. But we argue over whether it is lawful to film cruelty to animals in the Supreme Court. You believe you know more than a Justice of the Supreme Court? Like, duh.

You're really comparing dog fighting videos to videos of a murder being committed? Get a clue. A better comparison would be between crush videos and human snuff films. Oh, and those are illegal to make, by the way.

 

[Skwim]

I am not a parent, but I know one parent over-reacts while another parent under-reacts. There isn't a formula that always works, but there are tips and techniques and forward progress. If I were a parent I would not let my young children get near porn, but I would let them visit a farm or zoo to help them understand how nature works.

Not young children, but a what age would they be allowed to get near porn? Not that they wouldn't get near it without your permission if they wanted.

Among those exposed, age at first exposure of online pornography

Age Boys Girls
8........0.6%....0.0%
9........0.6.......0.0
10......0.6.......0.5
11......1.7.......1.0
12....10.9.......7.7
13....16.0.....15.3
14....21.1.....12.4
15....22.9.....22.5
16....20.0.....33.0
17......5.7.......7.7

(numbers may not add up to 100% due to rounding)​

Mean age of first exposure to online pornography

Boys - 14.3
Girls - .14.8​

Source (Sabina, Wolak, Finkelhor, “The Nature and Dynamics of Internet Pornography Exposure for Youth,” CyberPsychology & Behavior. December 2008.)​

 

[Brian Schuh]

We should show the world how we feel about fellatio by making it unlawful to film and publish the films. Across the board. I don't care if it is a woman or man performing fellatio. That would anger the Rainbow Coalition and another hundred gays would file legal actions.

By the way, fellatio under Torah law is permitted for foreplay, but it is forbidden to climax anywhere other than a woman's vagina or anus.

 

[Skwim]

i dont follow, whats that have to do with what i posted??​

It's no less relevant than your reference to Ted Bundy.


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[Brian Schuh]

You're really comparing dog fighting videos to videos of a murder being committed? Get a clue. A better comparison would be between crush videos and human snuff films. Oh, and those are illegal to make, by the way.

The question I am raising is whether it is lawful to film something unlawful under freedom of the press. I admit I went to extremes from cruelty to animals to murder, but the principle is the same in both extremes. Like, duh.