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The Sun revolves the Earth!

s13ep

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Yeah, cause we "adapted" real well to smallpox and polio and measles and are sure doing a bang up job of "adapting" to AIDS and cancer. Yeah. Just awesome job "adapting". Hell with treatments and vaccines and cures scientists make. Who needs them? Scientists provide no benefit. Perhaps we should just return to leeches and exorcisms as our illness treatments.
Some people can smoke their whole lives and not get cancer.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
It's perceived to revolve the Earth daily.
So what? I perceive water falling out of the sky on a regular basis, doesn't mean the sky is one big ocean hanging out above us. Just because we perceive something a particular way doesn't mean we've interpreted the reality of something correctly with that perception.
 

s13ep

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So what? I perceive water falling out of the sky on a regular basis, doesn't mean the sky is one big ocean hanging out above us. Just because we perceive something a particular way doesn't mean we've interpreted the reality of something correctly with that perception.
Nonsense.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Nonsense.
What is nonsense? That our limited human perception does not always speak to the actual reality of something, or that it is only an erroneous perception that the sky must be water as it is blue and has water fall out of it? Do you now believe the sky is, in fact, a giant ocean above us? I mean, it would fit with the other nonsense you believe regardless of actual fact and evidence.
 

s13ep

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What is nonsense? That our limited human perception does not always speak to the actual reality of something, or that it is only an erroneous perception that the sky must be water as it is blue and has water fall out of it? Do you now believe the sky is, in fact, a giant ocean above us? I mean, it would fit with the other nonsense you believe regardless of actual fact and evidence.
Nothing has changed since your prior post...

Let someone else argue since you're unable to without resorting to insulting behaviour.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
Nothing has changed since your prior post...

Let someone else argue since you're unable to without resorting to insulting behaviour.
Excuse me? You are the one who has presented a wholly nonsensical argument and then pretty much said no one can disagree with you that is actually "wise". You have put yourself on some intellectual pedestal and demeaned others in a sly indirect way. And you didn't answer the question either. What, exactly, is nonsensical about what I posted? You want to speak of perception, I spoke of perception. Just because you didn't like the example of perception I gave doesn't mean it was invalid in regards to your presented perception. Perception, with our limited senses, can often be wrong. This is where education and science and advancements and technology come in. To increase our chances of actually knowing what is real, what is correct, and what is misunderstood through faulty perceptions.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Nothing has changed since your prior post...

Let someone else argue since you're unable to without resorting to insulting behaviour.

Why you use computer science? isn't it a product of study and research done by academics.
 

Wirey

Fartist
Nothing has changed since your prior post...

Let someone else argue since you're unable to without resorting to insulting behaviour.

She's trying to explain to you that human observation is not science. People see the Virgin Mary in tortillas all the time, but she's not really there. So, observing that the sun orbits the earth is as scientifically valid as saying Mary lives in my burrito.
 

s13ep

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She's trying to explain to you that human observation is not science. People see the Virgin Mary in tortillas all the time, but she's not really there. So, observing that the sun orbits the earth is as scientifically valid as saying Mary lives in my burrito.
It's not an analogy of the Sun's revolution; it's an analogy of a magical objects revolution.

I notice how you understand her insanity, but not my logic.

Must be your mutual academic agreement...
 

Wirey

Fartist
It's not an analogy of the Sun's revolution; it's an analogy of a magical objects revolution.

I notice how you understand her insanity, but not my logic.

Must be your mutual academic agreement...

Yeah, there's nothing like education, observable evidence and linear thought to disrupt a perfectly good wrong idea.
 

s13ep

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Yeah, there's nothing like education, observable evidence and linear thought to disrupt a perfectly good wrong idea.
Really? That's still not a contradiction....

I'm almost secure in myself that I have won this debate.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Jupiter orbits the Sun. All major bodies in the solar system (that means not moons) orbit the sun.

So the larger the body of the sun has its effect on all major planets and hence controls their movements,
do you agree?
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
When people have a fever they perceive themselves to be cold. They feel cold. Their perception is that they are freezing. Are they freezing in reality? No. Are they really cold? No...they are burning up with fever. Their perception of an actual physical condition is incorrect. Is there a perfectly plausible reason they perceive themselves to be cold? Yes, because their body is so hot that everything around them feels colder. The air itself feels cold upon their skin so they perceive themselves as being cold. Fact is though, they are not. Much like one may perceive that the sun is moving around the Earth, because from the perspective of one not knowing any better, upon looking up, that is how it appears as the track of the Sun makes it's way across the sky, however...the fact remains that this perception is wrong when compared with reality. Much like the feverish person who is "freezing".
 
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