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The Supreme Court will decide if Donald Trump can be kept off 2024 presidential ballots

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Keeping elections fair is what will happen. Don't need liberal activists in government deciding that the citizens of their state isn't allowed to vote for a conservative.

Voting for a conservative isn't the issue. Voting for a traitor isn't even the issue.

It's only when a traitor acts on his traitorous views that the Constitution says they should be barred from office.

And the fact that you see efforts to bar traitors as an effort to bar conservatives is quite the self-own when you think about it.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Trump was arrested and arraigned four times in different jurisdictions. Which one are you asking about? All four were covered by the media.
Arrested?
Can you show me a link that mentions that?

Arraigned? That looks more like some kind of civil action.
You’re asking how the world will respond to a corrupt president who has explained how he will use his authority irresponsibly and vindictively. The answer is that our allies will be very cautious and not willing to risk their own security by trusting Trump’s government. It is likely Trump will align with adversaries to the USA and other NATO nations.
Yes. Maybe.
And maybe a lot of US citizens will be seeking asylum wherever they can get it.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Arrested?
Can you show me a link that mentions that?

Arraigned? That looks more like some kind of civil action.
You have internet access but too lazy to do your own homework? OK, I will do it for you.

Yes. Maybe.
And maybe a lot of US citizens will be seeking asylum wherever they can get it.
Is that democratic in your values? Should the government be hostile towards liberals to a degree that they have to flee their country?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
As you can see, nothing from your post shows who arrested him, where he was taken and charged, and where he was convicted of either attempted Insurrection or the complete crime.

I really do wonder how the US and whole world will respond to such a leader, should he win, today's news gives clews about all that, .....I give a link below.

But I am just looking at how 9 Supreme Court Judges might find regardless of their political views. It's all very worrying ...... absolutely!
But it's not up to any but the Supreme Court to decide.

I really do hope that you are right............. but alas........

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"Trump was arrested late last month at Georgia’s notorious Fulton County Jail on charges that he tried to steal the 2020 election in the Peach State."

Do you not understand that tRump was arrested by the state of Georgia? It tells you where he was arrested, at the Futon County Jail when he turned himself in. He did not need to be taken anywhere. He took himself.

By the way, even when it is an everyday citizen a police officer can cite someone, give him a summons and release the person where the event happened. A friend of a roommate needed a licensed driver to help him get a potential girl friends car that had been pulled over. As we pull up he said something that made me face palm myself "I hopte that they do not check my license":facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: It was too late at that point. Of course we knew that he was going to ask for my license. which he did, so everything was cool, and then he asked the driver for his. It turns out that he had a suspended driver's license. He was arrested and put in the back of the trooper's car. He wrote him up for the offense. He wrote him a ticket with a court date and then released him. His car was not towed because I was there to drive both of them off. The girl's car was towed.

A person need not be taken anywhere. But he was fingerprinted and mug shot was taken. I am sure that you have seen it. I could give details on other cases too. I am pretty sure that it is similar in England. Get arrested, pay your bail if there is any, and you can get released in very little time.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
The advantage of being a liberal is being ethical and honest. If only MAGAs could be. Instead MAGAs support a corrupt and criminal candidate who has already been fired by the American people for incompetence.
Your mirror-image view of reality is quite amusing.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
It is likely Trump will align with adversaries to the USA and other NATO nations.
Are you suggesting that he might roll out the red carpet and put up communist flags for the dictator of China in the streets of America? No president our governor would never do a thing like that! At least not a Republican one.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Voting for a conservative isn't the issue. Voting for a traitor isn't even the issue.

It's only when a traitor acts on his traitorous views that the Constitution says they should be barred from office.
Holding the door open for 10 million illegal immigrants to enter the country, many of which are on the terrorist watch list, is acting like a traitor to the constitution. National security is the chief duty of the federal government.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Are you suggesting that he might roll out the red carpet and put up communist flags for the dictator of China in the streets of America? No president our governor would never do a thing like that! At least not a Republican one.
Trump has admitted he respects authoritarian regimes and leaders. They are anti-democratic. He even claims friendship with some of these leaders.

Holding the door open for 10 million illegal immigrants to enter the country, many of which are on the terrorist watch list, is acting like a traitor to the constitution. National security is the chief duty of the federal government.
First, people filing for asylum are in the USA legally. And for those who enter other than checkpoints aren’t committing a crime if they ask for asylum. Many probably don’t know the law.

Second. Let’s note that there is legislation that will tighten the border and add border agents, but Trump has motivated Johnson and other MAGAs to sabotage it. They admit they will allow unlimited entry for the sake of making Biden look bad. It only makes republicans look bad.

Trump had four years to do something and only built a few miles of wall, some of which was cut down by migrants. He also held migrants illegally in unsanitary conditions. He also separated several thousand children from their parents without permission or paperwork and gave them to who knows. That’s called human trafficking.

Conservatives want to complain, they don’t want solutions.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The advantage of being a liberal is being ethical and honest.
You're serious?
Many liberals support genocide in Gaza.
They support civil forfeiture without due process.
The list goes on.

Of course, this post isn't a defense of Magas'
support for Trump. Just countering that claim.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Holding the door open for 10 million illegal immigrants to enter the country, many of which are on the terrorist watch list, is acting like a traitor to the constitution. National security is the chief duty of the federal government.

You're speaking as if you think it's obvious what you're talking about, but you're just coming across as detached from reality.

How about you take a few steps back, state your assumptions, and then make your tu quoque argument coherently?
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
This reads like a right wing media mad lib.
And your response to hearing what the founding fathers of this country had intended for the federal government to be sounds like extremist left wing propaganda-- same as we're used to hearing from people in The Squad.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
You're speaking as if you think it's obvious what you're talking about, but you're just coming across as detached from reality.

How about you take a few steps back, state your assumptions, and then make your tu quoque argument coherently?
Or you could go back and read the post again, and understand. Get your Communist Prime Minister to help you if you don't understand.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Or you could go back and read the post again, and understand. Get your Communist Prime Minister to help you if you don't understand.
I see two possibilities:

- you're exaggerating for dramatic effect and think that border policy you dislike is treason.

- you aren't exaggerating and you think you're describing the border situation accurately.

Both options are unhinged.
 
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