Did it not occur to you that the Hebrws wrote rules for children because they were little rebels just like they are today?
Correct, there are no Gods known to exist.
No, the universe exists as it does, and there are natural explanations. There's no evidence of any creator as a credible mechanism. There are ancient myths that are an ongoing tradition of belief by religious people, and they confuse their belief with knowledge. You seem to be doing this.
Bad analogy. This isn't evidence that your religious beleifs are true. If you make a claim that a God exists and caused anything you need direct evidence, not language tricks.
Irrelevant.
Your beliefs are irrelevant, and we don't care. Where is the evidence that your beliefs are rational and based on fact?
This is just a story, and interpreting it is irrelevant to what is real and true about things.
Fine, you like the laws, then follow them. But they have no authority beyond what believers like you decide for themselves. It ends with you. There's no Yahweh coming forth standing behind anything you believe.
Yeah, there's been all sorts of predictions and assertions that Bible prophesy has come to pass. But these interpretation are so dubious and flawed that no one can make any definitive conclusion. You keep falling back on what your religious community believes, and that isn't a valid basis for an argument. You need clear evidence and a coherent argument that is cohesive. Logic also demands that you not make assumptions, likle assuming the Bible is true, and that the God it refers to exists.
Right. It's as if even they know it's nonsense and can't be taken seriously.
How do all these believers get away with defying God and nothing bad happens to them?
Why assume any of this is true? You make all these assumptions but don't explain why.
It's not as if following the Bible literally has made any Christian moral. Morality is often a very difficult issue where there is no absolute answer. How do believers solve moral problems in a perfect way? They don't. I do see believers decide that their God must agree with them, and they use their idea of God as window dressing as some kind of authority that the believer doesn't have themselves.
Secular nations don't need the Bible, or any interpretation that believers offer. Religious folks are free to believe what they want for themselves, and it ends there. Does it not bother you that those Americans using the Bible to push dangerous political polices are harming citizens? Look at women unable to get medical care when their pregnancies go wrong. There are reports of some women dying because they were refused care due to laws by religious republicans. Is that how the bible works?
Hi and good morning
F1fan.
Did it not occur to you that the Hebrws wrote rules for children because they were little rebels just like they are today?
Children have little carnal natures which they also must overcome. King David, although undoubtedly obedient to his parents - else wouldn't be chosen by Yahweh to lead His people Israel - says in
Psalm 25:7 "Do not remember the sins of my youth and my rebellious ways; according to your love remember me, for you, Yahweh, are good." I can recall my own childhood, perhaps you yourself can recall in yours, that just like King David we haven't always been fully obedient, perhaps sometimes we have rebelled against our parents wishes. I know with myself I was a very obedient child when I lived at my parents house because I feared Yahweh's commandments. To the point that other siblings would come to me to resolve arguments and disputes in the absence of my parents. Nonetheless, when giving my life extra scrutiny I know they were times when that I think perhaps I could have improved, especially when I was very young when I was given to tantrums when I didn't get my own way. That attitude had to be corrected and it was by corporal punishment.
Children can be set on a course for good, or for evil. You can prove this by reading
Psalm 127:4 which tells us children are like arrows which can be directed to hit a certain target. If one gets in the bad attitude of a rebellious attitude as a young person and that attitude is not corrected, if the parents do not correct such an evil attitude, then when they become adults there is a good chance that attitude will solidify and nothing will change the heart and mind of that person. When our heart is tender, when it is young, it is then when the commandments of Yahweh can have maximum effect and these good practices can be with us all the way up to our death (
Proverbs 22:6).
Correct, there are no Gods known to exist.
That's what Satan would have you believe. He is just thrilled to hear statements like this. You indeed have a mighty one (elohim) that you worship. We all do. Whether that's science, or ourselves, our wives, our children, money, materialism, our jobs, lust for power, fame, or for false wisdom - whatever we place ahead of Yahweh is our Mighty One. If Yahweh did not exist, you wouldn't exist. Simple. None of us would. Yahweh is light (
1 John 1:5) and the absence of light is darkness, emptiness and nothing. I know that Yahweh exists. I believe 100% that Yahweh exists and He has manifested Himself in my life, even as a youth. I understand that my experiences have very little chance of persuading you, so let's consider scientifically the proposal for life on this earth as you next go on to say they are natural explanations for life on this planet. Do you really think that a big bang, 13.8 billion years ago, brought the universe into existence and initially produced hydrogen, the simplest chemical element; hydrogen then evolved into other chemical elements—and eventually people. It's the most silliest "unnatural" explanation there is, yet you gravitate towards it not because it is logical by any means and surely you can see that, but because you don't want to believe in a Creator. When we reject any part of Yahweh's Word, we reject wisdom and sorry to say, we become foolish. You could write thousands of scientific papers to propose how this Big Bang could've created life, but ultimately it boils down utter garbage.
Have you read the Scripture in
1 Corinthians 1:21: "For seeing that in the wisdom of Yahweh the world through its wisdom knew not Yahweh, it was Yahweh’s good pleasure through the foolishness of the preaching to save them that believe."
It's Yahweh's pleasure to put to shame those that are "wise" and to exalt those who are "foolish". Just as in the case of King David and Goliath, King David had no real fighting experience, yet he was able to subdue and kill Goliath, someone who was trained in the martial arts from his youth. This glorifies Yahweh because we are relying upon Him as the source of our help and not upon our own power, wisdom or might. This is a lesson you will have to learn if you want entrance in to Yahweh's Kingdom because we have to exercise faith in Yahweh despite the odds. The so called natural explanations that you refer to require insurmountable measures of time which gives free rein for scientists to propose the more idiotic of excuses as to why a Creator is not necessary for creation because none of these proposals can actually be proven, except by faulty scientific reasoning.
There are ancient myths that are an ongoing tradition of belief by religious people, and they confuse their belief with knowledge. You seem to be doing this.
Indeed, ancient myths exist. The Bible is not an ancient myth. Everything in the Bible can be relied upon as true and actually, even in encyclopedias, the Bible is referred to as a reliable source of what happened in our past and is used as a reference to determine what happened in our past. Last week, my dad had given me the task of looking up and researching the individual Obed-Edom and I was pleasantly surprised that even on Wikipedia, events occurring in the Bible were written as a matter of fact, which did actually happen. No other Book, none of the myths which exist, have that kind of authority. The Bible can be relied upon because it is accurate.
Psalm 33:4 says: "For the word of Yahweh is right and true; he is faithful in all he does."
Bad analogy. This isn't evidence that your religious beleifs are true. If you make a claim that a God exists and caused anything you need direct evidence, not language tricks.
The evidence is that each one of us has a brain and Yahweh expects us to use it. I don't know what evidence would persuade you of a Creator, I really don't. You cannot go through life treating truth as a Rubin's vase (sometimes known as the Rubin face or the figure–ground vase)? It is a famous example of ambiguous or bi-stable (i.e., reversing) two-dimensional forms developed around 1915 by the Danish psychologist Edgar Rubin where we are both looking at the same image, but both of us may see different things, either the two faces, or the vase and neither can condemn the other for seeing what they see as both images we see are completely legitimate. There is a wrong way of approaching life and a right way. There is a wrong way of approaching the Bible and a right way.
Romans 1 says:
"20 For since the creation of the world Yahweh’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and heavenly nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from
what has been made, so that people are without excuse. 21 For although they knew Yahweh, they neither glorified him as Yahweh nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal Yahweh for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles."
Yahweh is seen through the love and beauty of His Works - what He has made and I'm not just talking about natural things such as animals, trees, insects, birds, even humans, but His most prized possession Yahshua the Messiah, who was a perfect spiritual Being while walking on this earth.
I will post the second part of my post momentarily. It exceeded the 12,000 characters word count.
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